Originally posted by i_own_u UPDATE: "Edit: 00:45 PDT I've heard from a few folks it's a confirmed DDOS attack (real time updates, may change, fog of war, etc.). Partially handled. Servers taking in some players now, player counts rising. Ninjitsu continues."
If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
Blizzard are not the kind of company that would get involved in a DDOS, i don't really think Zenimax are either but for the humour factor i just couldn't resist it. Blizzard are more likely to evolve WoW incorporating, and adapting features they see as being an enhancement of their own game, not to say that they don't get creative all on their own, they clearly do, but their often able to improve others ideas well beyond what the original creator was able to do themselves, they haven't kept on top of their game after all by sitting on their hands
What would gold farmers possibly stand to gain by shutting down the servers?
gold spammers have everything to gain from it, by carrying out a DDOS they might be trying to 'force' entry into the login servers. That is after all the most common useage of DDOS, if they are able to 'bypass' security measures by bombarding the login servers they might be able to gain login information, usernames/passwords etc. from the people attempting to log in. Things like that are extremely valuable to gold farmers.
DDOS, where no online company is safe anymore. How many banks have had this happen to them as well? We live in a day and age where gold sellers and hackers rule the day. Make ATM's spit out cash on demand, steal your passport info, hack military satalites and even hack the NSA! Government that announces it can hack your computer when its off through the kernel system, can access your metadata. Nothing is secure anymore! Online games security don't stand a chance to these types of hackers.
DDOS, where no online company is safe anymore. How many banks have had this happen to them as well? We live in a day and age where gold sellers and hackers rule the day. Make ATM's spit out cash on demand, steal your passport info, hack military satalites and even hack the NSA! Government that announces it can hack your computer when its off through the kernel system, can access your metadata. Nothing is secure anymore! Online games security don't stand a chance to these types of hackers.
DDOS has nothing to do with hacking.
Every public site is subject to DDOS.
But don't confuse hacking with distributed denial of service.
So true, hacking can have some sort of rewards and is seen as thieving
With this kind of attacks no one wins anything, and its a kind of vandalism.....
vandalisme is stupid
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Denial of Serive attacks are no different then massive amounts of pings to a firewall right? Which if given enough pings could locate all the holes in the firewall if not shut down correct?
Have they confirmed that it was an attack? I ask because JG said it might be.. not that it was..it was also over rather quickly.. barely an hr. Sounds more like typical launch floods to me.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
In computer network security, backscatter is a side-effect of a spoofed denial-of-service attack. In this kind of attack, the attacker spoofs (or forges) the source address in IPpackets sent to the victim. In general, the victim machine cannot distinguish between the spoofed packets and legitimate packets, so the victim responds to the spoofed packets as it normally would. These response packets are known as backscatter.[41]
If the attacker is spoofing source addresses randomly, the backscatter response packets from the victim will be sent back to random destinations. This effect can be used by network telescopes as indirect evidence of such attacks.
The term "backscatter analysis" refers to observing backscatter packets arriving at a statistically significant portion of the IP address space to determine characteristics of DoS attacks and victims.
I'm not a security expert, although I do know a bit about networking. I'm looking at the DAM and there is no way in hell some small time person did this. That is way too many packets to not have a major force behind them. That just screams, "I have a lot of money and botnets behind me." Fuck, that's even worse than what Anonymous can do. Like I said, someone with $$$ and a vendetta is behind it, at least I think.
As for who? I don't know. But logic would dictate that the only people that would want to interfere with a head start are those that have something to lose - other MMO companies. It may have been Blizzard, or Zenimax, but it could've been EA or anyone else, too.
I'm not a security expert, although I do know a bit about networking. I'm looking at the DAM and there is no way in hell some small time person did this. That is way too many packets to not have a major force behind them. That just screams, "I have a lot of money and botnets behind me." Fuck, that's even worse than what Anonymous can do. Like I said, someone with $$$ and a vendetta is behind it, at least I think.
As for who? I don't know. But logic would dictate that the only people that would want to interfere with a head start are those that have something to lose - other MMO companies. It may have been Blizzard, or Zenimax, but it could've been EA or anyone else, too.
lol stop making stuff up. You aren't looking at anything.
I doubt this was even a DDoS, it's just launch issues.
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Taken from reddit...lol
made me lol ..... i am ,however very bored
If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
LOL.... they should have used that song for the loading screen.
wow. every one nuke USA :O even germans...
Yeah.... its so hard being the most powerful force in the world.
Actually, as soon as i read about the DDOS they were the first ones to spring to mind
its serious business actually:)
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/14313211/heart-of-the-valorous-buff-30-05-2014
thats blizz counter.
What would gold farmers possibly stand to gain by shutting down the servers?
Blizzard are not the kind of company that would get involved in a DDOS, i don't really think Zenimax are either but for the humour factor i just couldn't resist it. Blizzard are more likely to evolve WoW incorporating, and adapting features they see as being an enhancement of their own game, not to say that they don't get creative all on their own, they clearly do, but their often able to improve others ideas well beyond what the original creator was able to do themselves, they haven't kept on top of their game after all by sitting on their hands
gold spammers have everything to gain from it, by carrying out a DDOS they might be trying to 'force' entry into the login servers. That is after all the most common useage of DDOS, if they are able to 'bypass' security measures by bombarding the login servers they might be able to gain login information, usernames/passwords etc. from the people attempting to log in. Things like that are extremely valuable to gold farmers.
DDOS, where no online company is safe anymore. How many banks have had this happen to them as well? We live in a day and age where gold sellers and hackers rule the day. Make ATM's spit out cash on demand, steal your passport info, hack military satalites and even hack the NSA! Government that announces it can hack your computer when its off through the kernel system, can access your metadata. Nothing is secure anymore! Online games security don't stand a chance to these types of hackers.
So true, hacking can have some sort of rewards and is seen as thieving
With this kind of attacks no one wins anything, and its a kind of vandalism.....
vandalisme is stupid
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Do you think this is what they were doing, giving the short amount of time it happened?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack
Backscatter[edit]
See also: Backscatter (email) and Internet background noise
In computer network security, backscatter is a side-effect of a spoofed denial-of-service attack. In this kind of attack, the attacker spoofs (or forges) the source address in IP packets sent to the victim. In general, the victim machine cannot distinguish between the spoofed packets and legitimate packets, so the victim responds to the spoofed packets as it normally would. These response packets are known as backscatter.[41]
If the attacker is spoofing source addresses randomly, the backscatter response packets from the victim will be sent back to random destinations. This effect can be used by network telescopes as indirect evidence of such attacks.
The term "backscatter analysis" refers to observing backscatter packets arriving at a statistically significant portion of the IP address space to determine characteristics of DoS attacks and victims.
I'm not a security expert, although I do know a bit about networking. I'm looking at the DAM and there is no way in hell some small time person did this. That is way too many packets to not have a major force behind them. That just screams, "I have a lot of money and botnets behind me." Fuck, that's even worse than what Anonymous can do. Like I said, someone with $$$ and a vendetta is behind it, at least I think.
As for who? I don't know. But logic would dictate that the only people that would want to interfere with a head start are those that have something to lose - other MMO companies. It may have been Blizzard, or Zenimax, but it could've been EA or anyone else, too.
lol stop making stuff up. You aren't looking at anything.
I doubt this was even a DDoS, it's just launch issues.