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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    And I thought Raptr/Raptor was a bird of prey!   
  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    good news for ESO but thats during a launch month

    I'm curious how ESO fares with next month rankings

  • BetaBlockaBetaBlocka Member Posts: 222
    Lol...lets see how that same chart looks for May...you know, after so many players have cancelled.
  • MaelwyddMaelwydd Member Posts: 1,123
    How would Raptr know what games I am playing?
  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by bcbully

    http://raptr.com/LinkSmash/news/5376591c5e4f1bd437/raptrs-most-played-pc-games-april-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online-debuts-titanfall-drops-from-the-list

    I have that bookmarked too.  I will post on the 15th of next month to show that it dropped below the top 10-15. Mark your calendars.

    "If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657
    I only have one of those games on my hard drive; Star Wars, The Old Republic. About every other time I start it up it asks for a one-time password sent by email so I shut down the launcher and play something else.
    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • TbauTbau Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 401
    And what is this supposed to mean? Raptr doesn't exactly have a corner on the game community market. I would be surprised if even 1 in 100 PC gamers are part of it.
  • OziiusOziius Member UncommonPosts: 1,406
    Not trying to be a dick, but what is raptr?
  • AzmodeusAzmodeus Member UncommonPosts: 268

    Let's see what kind of spin the hate train can use on this one. 

     

    *Making popcorn*

      OMG I am Ancient!
  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Havekk
    Not trying to be a dick, but what is raptr?

    game tracking software like Xfire - gamers have to install the software on their PC

  • MaelwyddMaelwydd Member Posts: 1,123
    Originally posted by Azmodeus

    Let's see what kind of spin the hate train can use on this one. 

     

    *Making popcorn*

    As opposed to making a post using a piece of software hardly anyone uses to somehow positively spin how the game is doing?

     

    Only proof I need is what is happening in the game and it is not good.

  • BetaBlockaBetaBlocka Member Posts: 222
    @Azmodeus

    No spin required. That chart is for launch month. It therefore doesnt reflect the massive number of players that have ditched the game after they had to start paying for it.

    I can guarantee you the same chart for May will look very different as far as ESO is concerned.
  • OziiusOziius Member UncommonPosts: 1,406
    I just googled raptr and the facebook page came up. That post you just posted has 55 likes. I get more then that with a fucking cat pic ROFL. Seems like they have a pretty good handle on what folks are playing lol
  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by Havekk
    Not trying to be a dick, but what is raptr?

    Raptr

    I only learned about it last year when Trion was using it in a big push to get players into Rift.  I signed up, played Rift for about 20 hours and got the Rift expansion for free becuase of it.  Sure not every gamer uses it, just like Xfire, however it has community membership for some games that go up to 2.5 million members.  So I would say it makes for a pretty decent sample size for getting trends.

     

    "If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  • azzamasinazzamasin Member UncommonPosts: 3,105
    Originally posted by Chaosspeeder

    I find it interesting that in the MMORPG genre three P2P games  in front of the first B2P game are listed.

    There are no F2P MMORPGs on the list. 

    That's because:

    1. F2P games are smaller in scope (barring the financial failures of the big budget P2P titles that had to transition to F2P to survive)
    2. F2P games aren't built on a grandiose budget and are more suited toward smaller populations.
    3. Developers and studios of F2P titles are not made to be big blockbuster games, their made with much smaller population bases in mind.
     
    The list does nothing to reinforce any negative connotation about F2P you may have.  F2P titles are much smaller in scale and will always be more beneficial to the players who play them.  The only negatives you can take away from F2P is that it is the only business decision for "Failed" big budget MMO's.  IMO big budget all-inclusive MMO's should never be made.

    Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

    Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

    Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

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  • PiscorePiscore Member UncommonPosts: 263
    Originally posted by BetaBlocka
    Lol...lets see how that same chart looks for May...you know, after so many players have cancelled.

    ^This

    l2p

  • KeushpuppyKeushpuppy Member UncommonPosts: 171
    Rap who? never herd of em....
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by rodingo
    Originally posted by bcbully

    http://raptr.com/LinkSmash/news/5376591c5e4f1bd437/raptrs-most-played-pc-games-april-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online-debuts-titanfall-drops-from-the-list

    I have that bookmarked too.  I will post on the 15th of next month to show that it dropped below the top 10-15. Mark your calendars.

    out the top 15 you say? We'll see. There is some stiff competition there that ESO dusted last month. image

  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919

    Disclaimer: don't take this "seriously" !

     

    May 6th Activision announced  2014 Q1 announced:

    • worldwide sub numbers for WoW of "about 7.6M"
    • sales of 2.7M for Diablo Reaper of Souls in first week (last week of March)
     
    Based on the Diablo 2 RS number then TESO sold 1.2M (factoring the percentages). Some issues around this "wild guess":
    • D2 RS will have sold more copies in April - so an underestimate.
    • assumes equal play time for D2 RS and TESO - people will have binged out on D2 in March so an overestimate
    Based on WoW's worldwide sub number TESO sold 2.6M. Issues (factoring the percentages and the hours played). The big issue with this number is that:
    • TESO was not on sale worldwide and guesstimates of WoW's EU/NA/ANZ sub numbers vary widely - but 50% tends to be the top estimate. At 25% TESO sales are 650k; at 50% 1.3M and more if a higher % is used.
    • Also WoW subs were probably lower in April but as we don't know the percentage this can be ignored.
     
    So some calculations based on the Raptr data - and if accurate I don't think the numbers are that good. No point in repeating the 1.2M claim in this thread however. 
     
    Remember though that if anyone takes these numbers as gospel there will be another set in May and that could be supporting a sub number of under 500k.
  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048

    Using a service that not everyone uses to show how well a game does (particularly on launch month where its going to have much higher numbers) yay! Totally not flawed!

     

    By totally not flawed I mean its a terrible way to judge.  Though good job using something besides xFire! That makes grabbing numbers from a random source less silly. By less silly, I mean just as silly but hey its a different source!

  • koira1koira1 Member UncommonPosts: 264
    pretty nice % of users.. but how many users does this Raptr have? as they didnt mention that cant really figure out how many users that is..
  • QuesaQuesa Member UncommonPosts: 1,432
    I hate these things.  They show no picture of the industry.  If they want to make something impressive, why not make a list of the "most played games" over 12 to 24 months?  That would show me something.
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  • DEAD.lineDEAD.line Member Posts: 424

    I'll just say what i said before. If the sales/sub numbers where good, why isn't Zenimax talking about them? 1-2 million is a great number, no matter how much trolls who simply hate games would like to spin, specially if Zenimax came out and flat out called it a sucess.

    Also, with that in mind, if layoffs start rolling like BW and FC, then we'll get a much better picture.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by koira1
    pretty nice % of users.. but how many users does this Raptr have? as they didnt mention that cant really figure out how many users that is..

    Around 17 million in 2013.

    http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/10/raptr-starts-releasing-its-most-played-games-of-the-month-black-ops-ii-is-tops-for-march/

     

  • BetaBlockaBetaBlocka Member Posts: 222
    Dark Souls 2 recently broke 1.2 million sales. How do I know this? From Software announced it immediately.
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