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NCsoft earnings for 1q 2014... not looking pretty...
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Actually GW2 has posted 7 quarters so far for a combined revenue of $305.9M.
And digital sales have margins of over 90% (as seen in EVE financial reports).
It is funny the only quarter report of GW2 that you didn't show up was 4Q13.
Ah, and the game revenue also hasn't dropped from 3Q13 to 1Q14.
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
His very first post is " most people can't be objective" followed by 2 years of GW2 is failing. That is kind of sad but funny.
As the resident 'non-GW2 fanboy' (just look at my post history), even I think this thread is hilarious.
Apparently $300 million is 'not looking pretty'. ROFL!
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
ROFL
NO, people indefinitely citing random internet crap as "proof" (you included) are responsible for all the BS in this thread (and, suspiciously - only for SWTOR)
I already said it has become really obscene by now and your post shadows even THAT obscenity. I dont really know what is going on with SWTOR and this site, but it smells foul and by now i have very strong suspicions.
SWTOR numbers you (and other like you) brought in are standard internet BS. EA hides them, for OVER 2 and 1/2 YEARS, and for a good reason - it has never performed well and it never will, its YOU and people like YOU that cannot bring ANY official source that plague threads like this.
The post you quoted STILL STANDS unchallenged.
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
Love them inconsistent double standards and dishonesty and biased hypocrisy.
"I can claim GW2 is doing worse than SWTOR like a fact, citing some people on the internet estimating it based on undisclosed sources. And all I have to do is insinst and make excuses why they are not lacking credibility. But you have to proof it wrong with hard facts and real data if you want to doubt them or even assert the opposite."
"If you claim GW2 is 2nd place in the West based on the available credible financial data, I can claim you are wrong based on nothing but my opinion and random internet estimates. The burden to prove my denial and my estimates wrong now is on you and so long you are wrong."
"3rd party estimates based on undisclosed sources and data become facts if you keep quoting them often enough"
"Click hunting blogger and authors, hyping unconfimed buzz reports for ad revenue are the "industry and developer" and proof estimates are credible regardless of the various factual errors and inconsistencies made in the buzz report and previous reports of the source"
"But GW2 is only doing 7% (lets round down 7.89%) of first place. Therefore it didn't really accomplish anything great and its just generic. Disregard first place is established in the remaining global markets ten times the size and at least equal the market capacity of GW2s current, where GW2 is not even released. Disregard first place is the financial most successful game in history of all times overshadowing the entire game industry. Lets not name the "many" few MMO that are supposed to make just as much as GW2 either, because they all tend to be majorly and longterm successful title"
"Eastern market can not provide GW2 with revenue, because WoW flopped in high revenue eastern markets and only makes some spare change doing moderately well in low royalty charge China running at discount price (by Chinese P2P standards). GW2 will perform exactly like WoW and face the exact same East/West revnue reatio even running with a completely different P2P business model!"
How can you argue with stuff like that? And thats is really what people actually say, omitting of course the information that makes it look retarded.
Put into words and spending more time than im willing to on this
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Yeah because all game revenue goes back into the game.
WoW is clearly getting $900M per year invested on it, right?
GW2 development model.
Arenanet asks NCSoft for money to develop GW2. NCSoft gives Anet (@150 people) 5 years to develop it or $30-75M.
Additionally, currently Arenanet (@350 people) costs around $30-40M per year and GW2 has been out for 2 years now, so that is another $60-80M invested in GW2 (unless Arenanet isn't working in more content for GW2).
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
That's because WOW is a freak show based on getting ppl addicted to the game, and they succeeded at that. Like I said, a freak show at the right place at the right time.
It is pointless trying to compare old/new games to that game.
Also, would like to see the REAL WOW sub numbers, I don't believe for a thing that WOW has millions of players lol. Counting the servers for each zone/continent and the normal player limit on those servers you don't just get to the 7-8-12M players lol.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
23 pages and counting...
The game has almost two years, and is still the most played other games that have been left behind, and this game has not changed its business model to attract more players to ...
PD: I hope you understand me, English is not my native language.
l2p
Im sure people of ANet and NCSoft cry and weap over it every night before sleep
Also i agree with you, it has pure gold in comedy value