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Total Biscuit - Valve is missleading people

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  • MaximumPayneMaximumPayne Member Posts: 7
    Originally posted by Elmberry

    Total Biscuit talks about how Valve is missleading people about release dates and other things which could be much better. New titles are "drowned" by the amount of old ones on the front page of steam.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLNh5HPbQPo&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ

    I 100% agree with him. I have felt the same way for a long time now. I have lots of games on steam but I wished it could be much better than this. Anyone know if something better is on its way, as I have been quite tired of steam lately. Maybe Google or another great company can do something better. :)

     

    Why is TB so famous anyway?

    He often spouts nonsense and has been accused of (and proven of) taking bribes.

     

    So basically, what I am saying is who cares what that guy says.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910
    Originally posted by blackcat35
    Originally posted by Elmberry

    Total Biscuit talks about how Valve is missleading people about release dates and other things which could be much better. New titles are "drowned" by the amount of old ones on the front page of steam.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLNh5HPbQPo&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ

    I 100% agree with him. I have felt the same way for a long time now. I have lots of games on steam but I wished it could be much better than this. Anyone know if something better is on its way, as I have been quite tired of steam lately. Maybe Google or another great company can do something better. :)

     

    I have been looking around steam and before I buy anything on there I always look at metacritic and confirm that I'm not throwing my money away.  Its hard to find the more recent stuff compared to older stuff, everything is just jumbled together.

    If you roamed around Steam you would see this as an issue.

     

    I roam around Steam and use it as my primary source for buying games.  Doesn't seem to be an issue for me.

     

    So, what exactly is the worst case scenario here?  That a person inadvertently buys a game that is ten years old after looking at the game's advertising and game play video that is also on the site?  Would the worst case scenario be that they buy a ten year old game for $4.99 and enjoy it?  The horror!

     

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,211
    I find finding the new stuff easy. Just sort by price.
  • Vortex5ooVortex5oo Member Posts: 106
    My way of using Steam.

    1. I scroll down new releases on store frontpage.

    2. I sort out games like "Freddi Fish and Luther's Water Worries" because they dont  seem too interesting to me.

    3. I find a game called "Startopia" that seems interesting. I can see it was released to Steam platform on November 25 2013.

    4. I click the the link and end up at the store page, I look up in the right corner on the store page, "Release Date: 19 Jun 2001". The game was released 2001, I read short description,  I look at the trailer video(if there are one), I look at the screenshots,  I read the longer feature text and the system requirements.  I can choose to click the Metacritic link to the right( the score is 86/100). I scroll down to the bottom of the storepage and read the customer reviews, there are both positive and negative reviews.

    5. If Im still unsure I click the forum link and look if there are any complaints or praise there.

    6. Either I buy it, dont buy it or but it on wishlist.

    This may take me 5-10 minutes, depending on length of videos or interesting forum posts. I think thats the absolute minimal time consumption for investigating a game that I are about to buy. Sometimes I go to youtube and investigate some more, after all its my money I use to buy the game and I dont want to just throw it away.

    I check new releases every day and have no problem sorting out the ones I want to buy. It takes me maybe 1-2 minute to go through the new releases list.

    Some games may be expensive and I but them on my wishlist and get a notification when they are on sale. I own 286 games and 184 dlc on steam and I think maybe 3-4 of the games is full price. Non of the dlc is full price.

    My complaint to Steam is that the new  releases tab resets when you click a link, so if I have scrolled down 4 pages click a storepage link and then goes back the store frontpage list have reset to page 1. I have to scroll down all 4 pages again.

    Is there room for improvements, sure, but I dont think "Valve is missleading people about release dates and other things". Not at all.
  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657
    Originally posted by Vortex5oo
    My way of using Steam.

    1. I scroll down new releases on store frontpage.

    2. I sort out games like "Freddi Fish and Luther's Water Worries" because they dont  seem too interesting to me.

    3. I find a game called "Startopia" that seems interesting. I can see it was released to Steam platform on November 25 2013.

    4. I click the the link and end up at the store page, I look up in the right corner on the store page, "Release Date: 19 Jun 2001". The game was released 2001, I read short description,  I look at the trailer video(if there are one), I look at the screenshots,  I read the longer feature text and the system requirements.  I can choose to click the Metacritic link to the right( the score is 86/100). I scroll down to the bottom of the storepage and read the customer reviews, there are both positive and negative reviews.

    5. If Im still unsure I click the forum link and look if there are any complaints or praise there.

    6. Either I buy it, dont buy it or but it on wishlist.

    This may take me 5-10 minutes, depending on length of videos or interesting forum posts. I think thats the absolute minimal time consumption for investigating a game that I are about to buy. Sometimes I go to youtube and investigate some more, after all its my money I use to buy the game and I dont want to just throw it away.

    I check new releases every day and have no problem sorting out the ones I want to buy. It takes me maybe 1-2 minute to go through the new releases list.

    Some games may be expensive and I but them on my wishlist and get a notification when they are on sale. I own 286 games and 184 dlc on steam and I think maybe 3-4 of the games is full price. Non of the dlc is full price.

    My complaint to Steam is that the new  releases tab resets when you click a link, so if I have scrolled down 4 pages click a storepage link and then goes back the store frontpage list have reset to page 1. I have to scroll down all 4 pages again.

    Is there room for improvements, sure, but I dont think "Valve is missleading people about release dates and other things". Not at all.

     

    I'd be doing that same thing right now if Steam was up. Talk about being steamed!

    Aaannnd I just picked up Shadowrun Returns for $5.

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,038
    Originally posted by Sk1ppeR

    I like Origin. The client is written using Qt Framework so its stylish AND fast unlike steam's client that just have to self-update each time i run it and then boot for 20+ seconds. I don't have that issue with Origin, and if I have the option, I use EA's platform, not Steam. 

    Not to mention that Steam has become indy game trashcan lately. I don't like Minecraft and the likes and I never will. Simple as that. 

    I just wanted to share with others that my experience with steam is far different. In fact, I would say that Sk1ppeR may have either a PC problem, or faulty steam installation somehow. Mine never has to self update, and asks me to do so when there is the occasional one. Mine also takes mere seconds to load. Faster than Origin which is also quick.

    I find it odd to see someone supporting a P2W micro-transaction company so much. Just saying.

  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,366
    Originally posted by Vortex5oo
    My way of using Steam.

    1. I scroll down new releases on store frontpage.

    2. I sort out games like "Freddi Fish and Luther's Water Worries" because they dont  seem too interesting to me.

    3. I find a game called "Startopia" that seems interesting. I can see it was released to Steam platform on November 25 2013.

    4. I click the the link and end up at the store page, I look up in the right corner on the store page, "Release Date: 19 Jun 2001". The game was released 2001, I read short description,  I look at the trailer video(if there are one), I look at the screenshots,  I read the longer feature text and the system requirements.  I can choose to click the Metacritic link to the right( the score is 86/100). I scroll down to the bottom of the storepage and read the customer reviews, there are both positive and negative reviews.

    5. If Im still unsure I click the forum link and look if there are any complaints or praise there.

    6. Either I buy it, dont buy it or but it on wishlist.

    This may take me 5-10 minutes, depending on length of videos or interesting forum posts. I think thats the absolute minimal time consumption for investigating a game that I are about to buy. Sometimes I go to youtube and investigate some more, after all its my money I use to buy the game and I dont want to just throw it away.

    I check new releases every day and have no problem sorting out the ones I want to buy. It takes me maybe 1-2 minute to go through the new releases list.

    Some games may be expensive and I but them on my wishlist and get a notification when they are on sale. I own 286 games and 184 dlc on steam and I think maybe 3-4 of the games is full price. Non of the dlc is full price.

    My complaint to Steam is that the new  releases tab resets when you click a link, so if I have scrolled down 4 pages click a storepage link and then goes back the store frontpage list have reset to page 1. I have to scroll down all 4 pages again.

    Is there room for improvements, sure, but I dont think "Valve is missleading people about release dates and other things". Not at all.

    LMAO +1 .. you stop making sense to these people.....      IF they would take 30seconds to read about the products they are buying they would have there answer , casue each one has the realease date on the Store page .. if you impulse buy you are the exact dumass that Steam is targeting ... 

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