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bought $150 alpha, best decision of my life.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,073
    Originally posted by rodarin
    Bottom line is whether the guy is a shill or not people who spend 150 for AA will get more out of that game than guys who spent 75 and 80 bucks on SWOTOR and ESO.

    Will people who wait 60 days and pay zero to play it "get more out of that game" than either of your options?

     

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  • ComafComaf Member UncommonPosts: 1,150
    Originally posted by ArcheAge2014

    went exploring the world, and do alot of farming raising my animals. HAHA soo much fun best AAA sandbox i ever seen.

     

    Best $150 i ever paid for founders pack then other mmorpg in the history, I mean wow.

     

    if your an explorer holy crap, its going to blow your socks off. working on building my small boat too. 

    :D

    This sandbox is AMAZING, no bugs!!!!! no gamebreakign bugs, unlike other games haha. Its about time for a AAA sandbox with no bugs, build whatever you want mmorpg. We needed it.

     

     

    THERE IS SOOOOOO MUCH TO DO IN THIS GAME, i may start up some crafting too. :D :D

    im blown away by all the features AA has to offer, the best $150 of my life.

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  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240

    Best decision of your life?

    You must live a very sheltered life my friend.

    I think you had to create this account and make your fist post here more to help yourself validate the purchase than anything else. 

    But hell, if you are happy with your purchase we are happy for you!

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  • ethionethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888

    I took the plunge and purchased the alpha access.

    I didn't play the game long but after about an hour the game felt somewhat low quality.  Coming from ESO it might just be how things look and feel when I play.  Graphically it looks ok but it feels lacking in atmosphere.  It also starts you out with an asian speaking cut scene and dialogs.  Later after you get started the quests have no dialog and are in english.

    Combat is pretty old school.  Game plays simlar to games like EQ2, Rift, WoW, etc.

    Have not played enough to really have any feel for the depth or details of how combat works.

    I'll probably play ESO and maybe look more at it on the weekend.  For now I would probably have been better off passing on the game.

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  • syriinxsyriinx Member UncommonPosts: 1,383
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
     

    The $150 package includes 3 months of sub-status, $75 in game credits, and some incidental items for crafting, teleport, and transportation. I wouldn't say the package is just hype. It has some useful value. You're basically paying $30 - $40 for early access.

    By comparison both Elite:Dangerous and Star Citizen charge about $300 for a comparable package.

    F2P doesn't mean you never spend money or things don't cost. It means "free to play" without a subscription. That's where the term came from - back when most every game required a sub payment to even access the servers and play.  A free to play game was free to play without the sub payment. It never meant, you will never pay a dime in this game, just that you don't have to rent it.

    It *only* has value if you use the items.  A non trivial percentage of people that bought the package will not like the game after the first month or two when the newness of the experience wears off.  And that percentage is likely to be over 50%, but nobody knows for sure.

    And $75 in in game credits sounds nice, but we dont even know what the store will sell yet.  

    And you need to retire your 'rent' argument, because it is simply not true and a dishonest way to look at it.  you pay for server access.  As an example, there are two unofficial servers for separate SoE games.  SoE knows about them and is cool with the fact they exist (and one of them is for a game that is still alive and well).  However in order to play on them they require you own a copy of the game.

    When you buy the game, you always own it.  owning it may or may not be useless without server access but you certainly own the game.

  • rodarinrodarin Member RarePosts: 2,452
    Originally posted by Slapshot1188
    Originally posted by rodarin
    Bottom line is whether the guy is a shill or not people who spend 150 for AA will get more out of that game than guys who spent 75 and 80 bucks on SWOTOR and ESO.

    Will people who wait 60 days and pay zero to play it "get more out of that game" than either of your options?

     

    Depends on how you 'value' the stuff that doesnt have such an obvious real world 'value'. Some people might think getting to play NOW is 'worth' it even if its in alpha.

     

    The credits and the sub have a value that can be seen easily. As mentioned about 114 bucks. So that leaves 36 bucks for alpha and beta access and the other stuff they give.

     

    If people are paying to play it before it is released then their 'value' is greater the longer it goes before an official release. What if the game isnt released for  another year will those who fork over 36 bucks (intangible price) think that year was worth the 36 bucks? I would imagine so.

     

    Which also raises a point many people miss. If they have a lot of people who spend that type of money up front then they CAN actually 'delay' a release without worry of issues rather than rushing (another) bad product out to the masses.

     

    I am neutral at this point. But I think these packages make the most sense of any of the things MMOs are doing right now. Some people might call them cash grabs, which may be the case. But if the trend goes to these things catching on and improving games BEFORE theyre released and helping them make a game better going forward whats the problem?

     

    I would much rather spend a few bucks on a gamble on a game that looks interesting than paying money for a game I know full well will be free to play (and the developer is outright lying when they claim it wont be) in a few months. With every other sub based MMO to come downt he pike you got shit and shoved in it when they switched to free to play. Now these free to play games that dont pretend to be sub worthy (even though they might be more subworthy than most games claiming to be subworthy) and you get real world cash value items for the money you spend.

     

    If ESO released with a 100 'founders' pack and bypassed the whole 80 dollar box price and sub model they wouldnt be getting near the bad press theyre getting. the game would still be bad and the performance would still suck but maybe, just maybe, the company would have been able to delay launch and work on some of the issues a little longer. Still might not have made a difference but people wouldnt be sitting thee with another 80 dollar box waiting for the game to go free to play and hoping it works better.

  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 3,853
    Originally posted by torn420
    Cashgrab at its finest.  It's not even in alpha, it's a RELEASED game that needs translation.  Ya'll got gypped.  Enjoy your $150 free to play asian MMO #31234.

    Apparently they are enjoying it and that is all that matters in the long run.

    Oh and what about all these kickstarter projects that let you donate for perks, some all they way up to the thousands yet don't even have a playable version for their donaters how is that any better than this?

  • syriinxsyriinx Member UncommonPosts: 1,383
    Originally posted by rodarin

     

    Which also raises a point many people miss. If they have a lot of people who spend that type of money up front then they CAN actually 'delay' a release without worry of issues rather than rushing (another) bad product out to the masses.

     

    Trion has revenue streams.  XL has revenue streams from AA.   This has no impact on game's tweaking (its already developed) or release schedule.

  • AparitionAparition Member UncommonPosts: 91
    so you create an account on these forums to tell people you spent 150 dollars on a free game thats in alpha testing? thats like saying youre the smartest person with downs syndrome, congratz....

  • papabear151papabear151 Member UncommonPosts: 110

    Go buy 30 dollars worth of shrooms, 20 dollars worth of weed, 10 dollars worth of fresh fruit.

     

    After that kick yourself in the face for spending 150 dollars on a 3 mo video game sub.

  • papabear151papabear151 Member UncommonPosts: 110
    Originally posted by Asheram
    Originally posted by torn420
    Cashgrab at its finest.  It's not even in alpha, it's a RELEASED game that needs translation.  Ya'll got gypped.  Enjoy your $150 free to play asian MMO #31234.

    Apparently they are enjoying it and that is all that matters in the long run.

    Oh and what about all these kickstarter projects that let you donate for perks, some all they way up to the thousands yet don't even have a playable version for their donaters how is that any better than this?

    It's not and they are all equally dumb.

  • azzamasinazzamasin Member UncommonPosts: 3,095
    Originally posted by Beastn
    I would never spend 150$ on one video game in one big lump sum andman alpha no less and then refer to it as the best decision of my life...but that's me

    Hate to put words in people's mouth but I'd bet you'd be willing to spend hundreds (even thousands) over several years in a subscription game.  That is what really baffles me.

    Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

    Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

    Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

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  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,612

    Saddest post title I have ever read.

     

    Personally do not care if you love the game or hate it.

     

    It is a game my friend, it is not life, and never should be. 

     

    If you could ever claim anything about a video game to be the best decision of your life, I truly feel for you.

     

    My advice to you turn off your computer, walk out your door, go to the park, or a coffee shop, the beach, the grocery store, somewhere where there are people, real living breathing people. 

    Find a pretty girl, a girl so pretty even looking at her terrifies you. A girl so pretty your chest tightens, your palms sweat, your knees tremble.  

    Dig deep into every last bit of who you are, walk up to her and say hi, smile, tell her your name.

    Tell her you think she is the most beautiful girl in the world and finding the courage to take a chance with her,

    is the best decision of your life.

     

    Even if she rejects you it's ok, for true living  is in the journey. 

  • fantasyfreak112fantasyfreak112 Member Posts: 499
    Originally posted by ArcheAge2014

    went exploring the world, and do alot of farming raising my animals. HAHA soo much fun best AAA sandbox i ever seen.

     

    Best $150 i ever paid for founders pack then other mmorpg in the history, I mean wow.

     

    if your an explorer holy crap, its going to blow your socks off. working on building my small boat too. 

    :D

    This sandbox is AMAZING, no bugs!!!!! no gamebreakign bugs, unlike other games haha. Its about time for a AAA sandbox with no bugs, build whatever you want mmorpg. We needed it.

     

     

    THERE IS SOOOOOO MUCH TO DO IN THIS GAME, i may start up some crafting too. :D :D

    im blown away by all the features AA has to offer, the best $150 of my life.

    At least Trion finally found time for a marketing budget. Too bad it's just this guy.

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,669
    Originally posted by syriinx
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    The $150 package includes 3 months of sub-status, $75 in game credits, and some incidental items for crafting, teleport, and transportation. I wouldn't say the package is just hype. It has some useful value. You're basically paying $30 - $40 for early access.

    By comparison both Elite:Dangerous and Star Citizen charge about $300 for a comparable package.

    F2P doesn't mean you never spend money or things don't cost. It means "free to play" without a subscription. That's where the term came from - back when most every game required a sub payment to even access the servers and play.  A free to play game was free to play without the sub payment. It never meant, you will never pay a dime in this game, just that you don't have to rent it.

    It *only* has value if you use the items.  A non trivial percentage of people that bought the package will not like the game after the first month or two when the newness of the experience wears off.  And that percentage is likely to be over 50%, but nobody knows for sure.

    And $75 in in game credits sounds nice, but we dont even know what the store will sell yet.  

    And you need to retire your 'rent' argument, because it is simply not true and a dishonest way to look at it.  you pay for server access.  As an example, there are two unofficial servers for separate SoE games.  SoE knows about them and is cool with the fact they exist (and one of them is for a game that is still alive and well).  However in order to play on them they require you own a copy of the game.

    When you buy the game, you always own it.  owning it may or may not be useless without server access but you certainly own the game.

    I have said that people should only buy into the game if they are certain this is a game they will want to play more than casually. I'm not a huge fan of the pre-order unless I get to play a game first. I'm also not going to be buying into this game. There isn't a game recently published or coming up that I feel like putting money into right now. 

    With that said, I do think it's a good deal if someone is sure about the game. It doesn't matter whether you know every store detail if you plan on playing and paying anyway. If you plan on playing then you'll eventually spend the game cash and you'll use the items. If someone isn't sure and is buying on a risk, then that's their choice, but I think it's a bad one. Your "non-trivial" vague percentage of unsatisfied players, which is likely to be >50%, you pulled from your where now?

    Maybe I'll retire the rent-a-game point when sub-free games stop being held to different standards that p2p sub-locked games. You can own the bridge but it doesn't do you any good if you still have to pay the toll every time you cross. You're renting access to the game whether you "own" the software or not. The only time I consider a person owning software is with a B2P license.

    I doubt SoE is cool with private servers. They may not care about SWG, but unless you can post a link where Smedley or Georgeson say, go ahead and play private, then I doubt you. Also you don't need to own a copy of either game. You need to have a game client and that's two different things, because I can get a game client for either one. That's irrelevant to the discussion though.

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  • VoiidiinVoiidiin Member Posts: 817
    Originally posted by Vaticider69
    I took the plunge also... It was a much better decision then Dark and Light.. I'm enjoying myself. I have a low post count, but I read these hateful forums every day. OP is a plant.

    Ummm pissing into the wind is a better decision than Dark and Light.

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  • RaZKaLzRaZKaLz Member UncommonPosts: 61
    Just in case no one mentioned it, you will need to pay 15$ a month to have a house in game. You get other benefit for it too but basically you will need to pay either 15$ a month or buy it with in-game gold.
  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575
    Originally posted by Burntvet
    If this is the best decision the OP has made in his life, he needs a better life.

     Yeah I hope he's exaggerating. 

     

    I'm looking forward to playing too at some point but I'm getting good at delayed gratification. I can wait until it releases.

  • syriinxsyriinx Member UncommonPosts: 1,383
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    I doubt SoE is cool with private servers. They may not care about SWG, but unless you can post a link where Smedley or Georgeson say, go ahead and play private, then I doubt you. Also you don't need to own a copy of either game. You need to have a game client and that's two different things, because I can get a game client for either one. That's irrelevant to the discussion though.

     

    They arent going to outright say it, but when asked how SoE feels about a certain server Smed's quote was "Well, officially I have to say it's bad.  but thats officially."  Smed is obviously cool with xxx.xxx and there is a server that is a project of some type that they are well aware of and have made no effort to shut down, as well as one that reuses EQs assets and puts an entirely new lore on top of them.

    I have played on 2 of these three and they both told you you had to buy the client.  Are illegal downloads available?  Of course and they cant really be stopped.  

    Now private servers in general, no.  But these three they have made no effort to shut down whatsoever, and at least one of them can feasibly take away EQ subs from them.

     

     
  • Nemesis7884Nemesis7884 Member UncommonPosts: 1,023

    even if you like the game - i still think despite the value of the package - buying the 150 usd pack doesnt make any sense (pack is rather 200 usd in the eu) because

    beta starts in less than 2 months (supposedly)

    the game is all about building up your wealth, property etc... - all gets whiped and youll have to do it all over again except you wont be playing at release which makes the 150 usd pack even less useful...

    I really dont see any benefit of the150 usd pack except that you can play and test things out now, 1-2 months earlier...if that is worth it to you...and dont think they game will be free to play afterwards - if you want to build  stuff and be competitive you WILL have to pay a monthly fee (which isnt necessarily bad - just sayin).

  • geoxer2222geoxer2222 Member Posts: 40
    Having played the KR AA, the game feels to much like a job. You will have fun for good amount of time tho so that's a plus i guess.
  • Jagwar_FangJagwar_Fang Member UncommonPosts: 264
    Originally posted by ArcheAge2014

    went exploring the world, and do alot of farming raising my animals. HAHA soo much fun best AAA sandbox i ever seen.

     

    Best $150 i ever paid for founders pack then other mmorpg in the history, I mean wow.

     

    if your an explorer holy crap, its going to blow your socks off. working on building my small boat too. 

    :D

    This sandbox is AMAZING, no bugs!!!!! no gamebreakign bugs, unlike other games haha. Its about time for a AAA sandbox with no bugs, build whatever you want mmorpg. We needed it.

     

     

    THERE IS SOOOOOO MUCH TO DO IN THIS GAME, i may start up some crafting too. :D :D

    im blown away by all the features AA has to offer, the best $150 of my life.

    So, how much are you getting paid to come here and hype the game?  Then to claim "no bugs" is ridiculous.  That statement couldn't have anything at all to do with people crying about the few bugs in ESO now could it...

  • besteverbestever Member UncommonPosts: 902
    Originally posted by Jonas_SG
    Originally posted by bestever

     

    So this is all hype? How about you not tell people what to spend their money on. I spent 150$ and I don't regret it one bit. I guess I could run out and by a collectors edition of some other game with a dumb ass toy in it for a 150$ but AA isn't worth it. Should be happy people are spending the money on AA so you can play for free. One way or another the game will need money so the servers can stay up. Maybe the game just isn't for you.

     

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    The game hasn't even been released NA/EU - and you are already labeling it as it needs saving.

    "  will need money so the servers can stay up " ? -  what servers?

    You are not paying this money so i can play for free. You are paying this money because you couldn't jump off the Hype train in time. 

     

     

    Yep jumped right on the hype train over 4 years ago. Its a good game and I'm enjoying it. It doesn't need saving and yes they need money so the servers can be turned on and stay up. Love your logic though

  • vidiotkingvidiotking Member Posts: 587
    Originally posted by BarCrow

    Those of you playing....how is it on the old PC? e.g. I have a gtx580 gpu... i7 2600 3.4 ghz cpu..liquid cooled....8gb ram..windows 7 64bit client. ..How do you think it'll run? I ask this because ..tho i can run newer stuff...ESO..Wildstar...the frame rates are getting lower and lower of course. My buddy is starting to show it's age.  Much like myself. lol.

     

    I have a e8400, 4gigs of ram, and a 560ti. Games runs pretty well on medium settings. Looks ok too. I've fudged w/ all the settings several times to get it looking as good as it can w/o totally ruining my fps.

     

    I'd say your rig is a little better than mine. So I wouldn't let your pc stop you. The price may though.

  • HorrorScopeHorrorScope Member UncommonPosts: 599
    Thanks ArcheAge2014. wink
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