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And that's the bottom line, the word is out and it doesn't look good. Bad publicity slows sales and that forces companies to consider alternate sources of revenue such as FTP. But you know who hurts the game the most? It's not the "haters" or the reviewers. It's the the people ESO depends on most, the fans. When you people blindly let these problems go you are giving the company a free pass on poor performance and encouraging this behavior in the future. So yes go ahead and attack all of the people you think are out trying to hurt your game but in the end it is YOU doing ESO the greatest disservice of all.
Due the the amount of clout his opinion has and how much his reviews influence people.
Also, every review ever is the opinion of "just one guy". The difference between your opinion and his opinion is the aforementioned clout Joe has.
Since when is Tuesday a direction?
You should take a step back on that one. Who has been giving who a pass? I remember when you could do an alpha or a beta by just signing up or having some decent credibility. Now you have to pay a "founder's fee". Not even going to get into the whole f2p evolution and what people gave company's as a free pass. Fact is those very same people who got f2p to this point want eso to turn into a f2p. I'd rather let zenimax bash me over the head with another one hundred bugged quests before some guy wipes his credit card across Cyrodiil. Oddly enough people like Joe support that f2p model... Then again a guy who has never reviewed a f2p mmo sure thinks highly of them.
There's a lot of bullshit in this. He's omitting details to make things seem worse than they are. He clearly has an issue with the collectors edition and is basing everything else on that. An example, he says you'll need to kill 42,000 enemies to get a decent horse.. after moaning about enemies dropping only 1 or 2 gold.. but neglects to mention enemies tend to drop plenty of items that sell for 10+ gold even in the first 'starter' zone. Total bullshit.. it's a shame lots of people are going to watch that who are considering the game and will actually think it's that hard to get gold. It isn't.
Normally, I don't really go for the "persona" type of reviewers. But like anything, you have to take the review for what it's worth and evaluate it on the merits of it's content.
Or so I thought.
This thread is 35 pages long and almost everyone has either agreed with the review or, tried to come up with some reason why AJ is personally not credible. So, how come no one is actually challenging the review itself for the content. I have seen in this thread where it is said Joe lost lost respectability over his reviews of the past. Not this review mind you, but rather one from 2012. OK, so if AJ has no respectability, and ESO is that good, then surely there must be something wrong that can be found in this review.
I'll give an example of what I mean.
He talked about the horse and how you can only collect 1 gold per mob. He then talked about the $20 horse as thought that was the fast one. Isn't the $20 horse the slower one and this worth 17K instead of 42K?
I love the game and am having a blast, while at the same time I am entertained by AJ and find his points valid and on the mark. Zenimax needs to step up their game imo, but in the meantime I am certainly going to play and pay and hopefully continue to have a great time.
You are in no position to critique either considering you've only played P2W games if you equate hidden costs games with free to play games.
Actually, many of the games he reviews gets a "Bad Ass" seal of approval with a high score (FarCry 3 got 9/10, Saints Row 3 got an 8/10, etc.) Yes, many of his Angry Reviews are showing negative things that downplay the gaming experience. Why? Because he's a gamer like most customers are ...duh?... and those things that he points out actually make the gaming experience very sour to the player. It's in no way disrespectful to show the flaws in a product, especially if you're showing them to an audience that is a potential purchaser of said product that you're reviewing. That's actually very respectful of your audience (instead of doing the opposite and lip-servicing the product/company selling it as many of the "main stream media" sites do....oh, don't recall the Jeff Gerstman incident?
And not achieved anything? Really? Joe has worked his arse off getting his show from the ground up to where it is now (an average of 1.5million views per video). He did an interview last year with Microsoft's Xbox head honcho during ...E3 or PAX (I can't remember) and has done other connections with other studio heads in the industry. He's a known name now....a big one. So, when he says something is either total shit or the best thing since sliced bread, that opinion echoes in the weight of his followers.
P.S. I just think you're personally insulted somehow that he voted TESO as a 5/10 mediocre game and when he did GW2 over 1.5 years ago he gave it a 10/10. Does that hurt you in any way, shape, or form? It shouldn't [however right it is].
Given the sheer number of mmorpg f2p games I have gone through 95% of them are p2w. Of course a majority of them you never hear about because their company goes under in less than a year. There are f2p games out there that don't add hidden costs. They are just not normally found in the mmorpgs section. Pick ten mmorpgs that are f2p at random from the list. Get back to me with how many of them are p2w ^_^. If you pick one from r2/aeria/gpot-webzen/nexon/snail so forth you can auto mark those down as a point for my argument.
Another great review from AJ.
His experiences really reflected my own for the most part. I mean, I don't think I found a SINGLE "mini-boss" in the torch dungeons and wasn't camped by like 5 players and bots. Ridiculous.
The one thing he didn't mention though, which is what I feel is the worst thing about ESO right now, is the horrible responsiveness of combat. GOD I hate this. I can't say how many times I've died jamming the weapon swap button in vain while my character does nothing. Same with abilities, SOMETIMES my ability works SOMETIMES it doesn't. This absolutely KILLS any hope of having real competitive PvP.
Man, in GW2, I could press like 4 keys in a second and ALL of them would work. In ESO, I'm lucky to get my ONE attack to work sometimes.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Problem is things phase even when you are teamed. All of a sudden you cant see your team mate or the boss they are fighting. As in the review when they killed the boss the first time it only counted for him and I think it was his wife was forced to kill the boss alone and she died. He could do nothing. Thats bad design.
QFT lol
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Much of the negative stuff he mentions in the review isn't due to bugs, it's just due to poor design.
The major two offenders being:
1. RAMPANT boss camping is almost every single public dungeon which really kills the experience.
2. Phasing preventing friends from grouping in a very large portion of the open world PvE.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
I love the game and play it every day (for now) but there is no arguing the two points Creslin just mentioned. Number one is the worst issue for me personally. It has taken the joy out of all the public boss fights and public dungeons with boss spawns. There are either
A. 5-6 bots standing there ready to instantly kill the boss
B. A group of 5-10 other players ready to burn the spawn down in a millisecond
C. A combo of A and B.
This takes the thrill, excitement and challenge out of these encounters and kills one of my favorite parts of the game.
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no kidding did you see angry Joes review before launch, he praised the pvp like it was the bomb. Then he turns around and gives it a 7/10 talk about flip flopping.
I would give you a guest pass to SWOTR, but then I wouldn't be able to find a way to live with myself afterwards....
No! I'm not going to pay them while they get their shit together. They can get their shit together 1st. Then I'll pay them.
Besides, the damage is done. MMOs usually have a critical window to get their 1st content patch out to catch the 1st wave of sub renewals. I don't think they will hit that and will probably suffer a larger drop in Subs than they might otherwise have.
This game should never have been released in the state it is currently in.
As for WoW? WoW was lauchned 10 years ago......Can we at least make our comparisons from within the same decade? One should expect ZM to have picked up on a thing or two in that time.
The bots are here due to a lovely little thing called free 30 days, get rid of that and bots have to pay monthly..wont stop them sadly due to the fact people will all ways buy from them. And if you read the dev section on eso they are looking in to how monsters spawn including bosses and seeing if they cant implement a way to at least make it harder for bots to continue their rampage. It still boils down to the game is new and will need to be "fixed" over time. changes made to spawns and such, maybe even adding extra anti bot things.
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Got this in my mail and came here to just say this:
He is totally right.
Bugged to hell, dupes, exploits, every dungeon has bots in it, every quest you do has decisions but none of them matter in any way or form.... you can see they tried to do something but its clearly not working out.
As for PVP, last night i managed to see 30-40 people trying to kill a single vampire player who abused the game mechanics to get what is the most OP build ever in a MMO.
Shows how really new they are to this...
My verdict: If they learn from this MMO their next one might be worth it but stay away from this one at least until F2P with bugs fixed and for when you won`t see EVERY solo dungeon boss camped by an army of bots.
the reason i used WoW is because it is (was to some) the biggest mmo out there. As for not wanting to pay ZO then dont..simply stop playing shut the fuck up and wait for a few months before trying again. As for them releasing it they did not have much of an option. they have a time window in which to get the games out and PC version was not even an idea until 1/2 through. they are using pc as a way to get some of the bad bugs ironed out for the XB1 and PS4 launches. as for the age of an mmo..i remember a few older ones that had a great launch with little to no bugs. but that was 15+ years ago so I'm sure you don't want to hear about it.
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