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Global Agenda right.. well people like that game too, but there's no need to badmouth them on the Eve forum
Its actually not true. I think you don't really get the meaning of freedom in the context of EvE. Freedom does not mean breaking the rules. The EULA clearly states you may not harass other players with the intent of causing their enjoyment of the game to be damaged. You may also not damage the reputation of CCP or EvE.
While you have freedom, that doesn't mean harassing other players, that doesn't mean taking someone on teamspeak and humiliating them, making fun of a disability they have and causing their wife to have a panic attack, that doesn't mean calling for people to encourage someone to commit suicide, that doesn't mean following a player around for 4 months calling them a pedophile or being an ass. It doesnt mean giving up your self respect and luring a guy with cancer on the pretense your his friend and blowing up his stuff. Freedom doesn't mean being an asshat with zero consequences.
Freedom is a two way street. You get what you give. If what your giving is aimed at deliberately causing someone out of game annoyance or unhappiness you deserve to be banned for it imo.
Why complain? Don't play it if you don't like it! It isn't for everybody! That is why it isn't World of Warcraft! Quit ruining our games!
Welcome to EVE... Its NOT a game for the trusting, naive, Progressive or anyone else who has become a victim of the nanny state mentality. Thats simply the way it operates. If you don't like it, don't play it. Its really as simple as that.
Three rules will help anyone actually wishing to play the game.
Rule One. Trust NO One. I mean it. While there are lots of helpful people in EVE, its also home base to Mittens and his merry band of rampaging internet thugs (and worse...).
Rule Two. NEVER undock what you can't afford to replace.
Rule Three. Keep your clone up to date, and use jump clones in really dangerous situations.
I played EVE as a high sec carebear for almost six years. In that time I never left high sec, nor did I fleet with anyone else in the game. Its a good game, for those interested in such things. But it isn't nor is it ever likely to become a "nice" game for those expecting to have their hands held, and/or have the Dev's kiss their boo boos when someone is "mean" to them.
I'm complaining because this is not what EvE was supposed to be. I started in 2003 and it was a great game. It had a good community. It had ganking and drama but it didn't have the mean nasty metagaming crap that it's starting to have. Quit ruining my game.
Most players you encounter in EVE are either part of the griefing problem, or simply complacent about it. Harassment is part of the game's society, and it all seems to cater to the lowest common denominator. The "freedom" people keep talking about is only the freedom to try to ruin other players' experiences. It isn't about doing what YOU want to do, or what YOU enjoy. It's about stopping others from enjoying the game.
It seems like people use games like this as a way to do things that they know damn well aren't acceptable in real life. Harassing others, following people around and insulting or threatening them, and just doing whatever you can in an attempt to make others' lives miserable is actually illegal in most developed countries (in real life). So, take someone with sociopathic tendencies that's too fearful to act out their sick ideas in real life, and provide them with a game that lets you (and to an extent encourages) harass other people.
I've always said that "open PvP" isn't about challenge. It isn't about skill, or abilities, or anything else. Because if it were, you would have people seeking out similar players in order to test their strengths. But that isn't what happens. Instead, you get people who are exponentially more powerful than their victims, searching out the easiest targets and attempting to cause them trouble over and over. People who are looking for a challenge don't kick someone while they're down.
EVE and games like it bring an analogy like this to mind:
They claim to be like boxers, trained and looking for the best fight to prove their worth. But instead, they're like a professional boxer hanging out at an elementary school playground to beat on small children. Then they jump about, acting as if what they had done shows their strength and capabilities.
I feel sorry for people like that. Though they disgust me, and their actions are sometimes sickening, I pity them. What a sad, sad existence.
So, unless you're one of the like-minded fools who enjoys trying to make others' lives as difficult as possible because it's the only way you can feel like "a man", I suggest you find another game to occupy your time.
EvE is simply a FFA full loot PvP game. If you play a game like that, be prepared to be ganked, cheated, insulted, and griefed.
Some people enjoy this type of game play, and others don't. Don't play that kind of game if you don't like it.
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I see no problem with this really and I doubt I have serious issues. I REALLY doubt someone with cancer want to be threated as someone with cancer. The doctors in his life do that more then enough I guess. Maybe I am wrong though...If however mean that "friends" gank him this way then yes I have a problem with that.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
Here is my take on griefing in games like Eve. There are plenty of ass wipes that anyone can meet IRL. IRL you can't do much about them other than ignoring them if you can. The same types of people that you meet IRL also play games so there are going to be your fair share of ass wipes as well. The problem with MMOs is that there is no penalty for continuous griefing. There are numerous glitches that griefers use not to mention game mechanics that are just plain out of whack.
I would be fine with griefers in any type of game as long as the game mechanics are realistic and the consequences were harsh. In most MMOs, the game acts like the players are the only entities in the game world. This is why they are games and not virtual worlds. A virtual world would model and account for the vast numbers of NPCs that would have a large impact on the players in every aspect from the economy to laws and player security.
Griefers in games are something like criminals IRL. IRL they are taken care of by the system most of the time. In MMOs, there is no 'system'. Without taking these things into account, there is anarchy and a small group to griefers has way too much influence on the game. Until developers start to model consequences into their games and create at least a semi-realistic social order, they will always remain games that can be easily exploited.
I hope not. I'd rather they stay in EVE so that I know where they are.
Maybe a few pictures aswell
By what I remember of the video he said people should gank him to get his head straight or at least to end it already, something like that anyway. Do note that even with that it isn't technically inciting someone to do anything because it is at the end of the day a video game and you choose to do is up to you (both for the goonies and the respective individual whom if memory serves said he was on suicide watch and distressed he got ganked during the gal ice blocked, I believe.
That said you are also guilty of taking a game far too seriously... the dude goofed, he apologized both to the community and the person he victimized (in-game!) and stepped down from his position at the CSM, took his temp ban and by what I know these days he rarely even plays though he does still mastermind CFC's moves. Also keep in mind he has also gone on record saying in his own articles that he ,for a moment, forgot he wasn't the Mittani in the real world while drunk, this isn't an excuse merely an explanation.
My advice now is for you to step back, step outside and realize that games may be a source of joy, a good pass-time, etc, but only if you choose so and if you take it too seriously you could end up killing yourself for a bunch of bloody pixels (sorry but that dude on suicide watch should also , and anyone like him should bare this in mind, realize that pixels aren't nearly as important as your life and the friends you make online may be real or may, proverbially, be people you meet on the train to a destination and then never see again).
In South Korea they hanged, from a tree, the school vice principal who survived the ferry boat accident because his kids didn't. the world is a fucked up place, check the news sometime.
Have to be a bloody good game for me to take my life over
Definitely not EvE Online. Yeah while I probably could have handled things better than I did that's true.
I don't know what game you play but imagine if everytime you logged in, no matter when there was always one player waiting for you, for no apparant reason that followed you around everywhere. First I just ignored them, then I smacked with them, then I ignored them, but after a while they get on your nerves. Not sure why but its extremely annoying after a while knowing that some wierdo is out to get you for no apparant reason and theres no way to get rid of them, can't kill them they're invisible, can't block them because then you don't know when they're active... probably should have just kept ignoring them but eh...
Well... depends how he survived...in Asia by what I know they view duty towards their job and their family quite highly so if the dude, a male ostensibly in charge of taking care of them, failed them all... gods only know what the laws though that is markedly less disgusting than the 14 something rape victim that got hanged to death last year in one backwater muslim country.
You could have also tweaked your chat setting to auto-reject invitations from people not in your friend's list (donno if you can see them on watch list if they are blocked or if you can tune the settings to block only based on standings ) and simply not bothered reading local. These type of people thrive on the distress they extract from you and unless you are able to smack them around silly (and it takes allot of balls and allot of cunning to get them to lose it first) it isn't worth responding to them. Be glad though they are not from your corp, I had a CEO like that once and the retard blamed me for losing half his corp when over night he decided to go from wormholes to 0.0 and me and the wormhole loving gang splintered off, he smack talked a while but after Goonswarm fisted Test he shut up XD.
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You are basing your opinions--like many ignorant players do--of of the stories you hear. EvE Onine has garnered this reputation that is is a harsh world. It is justified. But many publications--MMO Champion, Massively, etc.--as well as many players who leave the game only post the absolutely atrocious stories. You never hear about the people who make a positive difference, because quite frankly that's not as great a read as drama.
When Area 52 became notorious for giving Thori'dal, the Stars Fury to a rogue instead of a hunter in the raid, the forums and blogosphere erupted in vitriol over the decision by the GM, despite it being a good call since the hunter was brand new to the game, and quite frankly had not earned his stripes.
I mean, there are plenty other tales of delicious tears and drama in other games, but people ignore it because those games have not cultivated this well-documented history of being sa harsh reality, where the players do control a lot of things that they normally wouldn't.
You don't hear abotu the corporations such as Infinite Entropy or Error-404, which worked to train new players to become competent killing machines in the game. You don't hear about how those corproations had a shield system in place, helping to protect many of the missioners, miners, and new players in the game from griefers. You don't hear about the people who try to make the game a better place because they aren't a good read.
Quite frankly, it doesn't matter. Most of you wouldn't survive in the game, and that's fine. We don't want you anyways, because you'll pine to CCP to make it a them park MMO like WoW. That won't happen on our watch. If you want a game that will legitimately challenge you mentally and emotionally, look no further than EvE Online. If you just want to do the exact same crap day in and day out, continue to play in your theme park.
My problem with his post is he forgets one of the main points of a sandbox is it's community, if it's toxic that's nothing but bad for the game.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
We'll done.
That's an awful long post to try to defend being a sad shell of a human being to others. How about instead of talking down to everyone, you actually work on your game's community so you aren't the laughing stock of the MMO world. That would help a lot more than a long winded post saying "I'm better than you because I treat people terribly."
Just some friendly advice from your friendly forum neighbor, treat others as you want to be treated and so forth
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