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Bots and Spammers :(
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I think Zenimax needs to be more proactive instead of relying on player reports to deal with bots and spammers. Considering the box price, I would think they would want to ban bots and spammers right away so they will have to buy another box to continue their annoying activities.
For those who don't know what I'm referring to, the starting zones are plagued with gold selling spammers. Groups of bots are killing public dungeon bosses in seconds for what I can only assume is easy XP and loot. They aren't using anything complex as far as bots go. They just stand there and probably spam an attack button at the static spawn point until the boss spawns.
For those who buy gold from web sites, shame on you. Ruining the economy and enabling the gold farmers to buy more accounts so they can keep spamming is YOUR fault.
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Hate to say it, but every MMO especially new ones are going to have them. and its the players fault because people buy the gold. If nobody bought the gold nobody would be trying to sell it.
once more glad i did not buy ESO.....
Just put them on your ignore list or if they spamming you mail report them and ignore as well.
Getting upset about it wont do much good and ones you move out of starter zone there is barely any gold spammers.
Also they are fixing public dungeons with the next patch so they wont be able to farm them any more for drops.
Blame the lazy people who buy gold.
They are the bane of mmo's.
In ESO it sucks even more with a "Mega" server i have seen 20 bots at 1 spot killing the spawn over and over and over.
Its a war you cannot win as long as people buy gold.
The moment accounts get banned they make new one's massive amounts of real money are made so a few accounts is just pocket change.
They need to introduce some sort of capcha for doing stuff ingame....
Can be realy simple like 993377 before entering game / public dungeon / every hour.
all mmo's failed to wipe these bots out...
as banning them aint working.
If you'd read the patch notes you would have seen they are going to put dungeon bosses on a timer as regards picking loot up from them, and they cite this action as a response to player feedback.
As for the spam, well, yes that's annoying but the spam filter I use (X4DLibAntispam) catches virtually everything and the filters are updated as often as two or three times a day. I even use the filter to eliminate messages containing keywords like wts, wtt, wtb, which I find just as annoying as any other spam. I also use it to block certain words in English and also foreign languages relating to guild recruitment such as gilden, guilda, guild, guilde and so on. The filter does NOT add to the /ignore list, so if a player typed something in English that didn't contain one of my filter words I'd see their message. If a player who usually chats in a foreign language said something in English I'd see THAT, just not the posts in their own languages containing specific words I have filtered.
In short it means no-one is put on /ignore for guild recruitment or buying/selling but I don't have to see those posts. Win!! The end result is a nice, uncluttered chat where I can see players TALKING, rather than endless chat about buying/selling or guilds, meaning I can follow actual conversations and answer/ask questions without the chat box scrolling up 20+ lines as I'm typing.
Hm, I second this.
Still... I really hope the players of ESO get the game they want/desire... I know A LOT of people are excited about this. Nothing like wanting something so bad and getting it and it being utter crap (>War Z did that to me<).
I agree with the already mentioned... just add them to the ignore. It's annoying, but that's MMO's. And I also agree with the shaming part of people that DO use gold spammers. I just don't get why you'd pay for a game to not actually play the game... except for the false sense of superiority that comes with having it all without actually doing anything...
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All it would take is one person watching chat and instant-banning gold spammers to make it stop. I've played another game where they did it and it worked. It might take a little more effort to catch botters, but I don't agree that changing loot timers is an effective method of stopping them.
- In Vanilla WoW you needed 90 gold to get your mount. All the older real mmos, you needed a lot of gold.
- In Elders Scrolls Online you need 17000 gold for your first mount.
- PPL would like the much faster mount for PvP. I can't remember how much, its higher than I can count.
This is a lot of gold in each case, and people want a mount. Most newer games you auto-have one, and not much need for money......I think it all comes down to that, a real opportunity for the spammers.
Someone here also made a good point. The Mega server makes it easy for them.
When they pitched us on "Premium Customer Service" in retrun for a sub fee I expected live 24/7 chat moderators or at the VERY least, chat mod bots like they have on Twitch stream chats.
That being said, I suggest everyone grab one of the many spam filters for at least chat from esoui.com. You'll still get the mails and the guild invites but those are easier to deal with that the chat spam.
Yup, I expected a massive problem with goldsellers at launch. The RMT industry is well-developed by now, and after watching them invade FFXIV:ARR at launch, I predicted every new AAA MMO launch would have the same problem. Seems I was right.
Wildstar will have exactly the same problem at launch.
Don't think for 1 second that their "legit" ingame currency buying will prevent a massive goldseller attack. The goldsellers always undercut the game company's currency prices, that's why goldsellers flourish in all F2P games.
If they did that i wouldent of quit. I mean if a poor company that runs Uncharted waters, use to have some one on that would have them banned withing mins, I dont see why a game which made so much money couldent do the same. Making people have to wait longer for the boss to spawn, isnt going to stop botters lol. Not to mention the ones that seem to have invis mode and tele mode.
I experienced tons of chat spam until I got to Deshan in Ebonhart Pact. In the last couple of days I haven't seen much at all.
We'll see if it remains this way.
The chat spam filters dont work very well. They will block every one, any one who types 2 messages in a row will get blocked. I am prolly blocked on every ones, because I still carry the habit from uo, to press enter after every sentence lol. Not to mention if your blocking them, thats not getting rid of them, and the damage they cause, its just pretending they arent there.
Its really bad on zen part to expect the community to stop gaming, in some cases hours to report bots and spammers. That is like the police telling you, well we are no longer going to patrol, its up to you now to report anything to us, and we will investigate later. After paying all the money we do in taxes. There would be a up roar.
I guess in mmos though things are different, and its ok for you to have to pay 60-100+ to play, and another 15 a month, and have to work at trying to keep the game free of botters,spammers, and cheaters. I seen one guy say he spent 2 hours sending reports on all the bots and spammers, then getting his email spammed by zenis spam bot, telling you thank you for blah blah blah, we arent going to tell you what we are doing, because it will hurt the gold spammers feelings. Have a nice day.
If the boss mobs are put on a loot timer, it's a huge step in the right direction. Iit means instead of standing there killing the boss every 60 seconds and looting it they would only be able to get the loot drop once per X hours. I'd say that's a significant discouragement to people farming in order to get mats to get gold.
Note this is not a timer on the boss SPAWNING, it's a timer on how often the boss can be LOOTED.
I also use Auto-Decline which, amongst other things, auto rejects Guild invites for me. He's working on getting it to check ingame mails, too.
I think my record would go to F2P Rift. If someone messaged me I'd just ignore them because I couldn't ignore the spammers fast enough to see what any real players were saying.
In ESO they seem concentrated in the low level zones. Almost none 30+ but then you get the desperate vampire/werewolf spammers.
I was watching a few guys streaming and saw bots camping bosses, and other bots teleporting around gathering loot.
Is it really that bad, or did they overly focus on this?
I am interested in joining but if the game is in such a state, I don't really want to spend my money on it.
There are not more spammers then in any other popular mmo...
Just keep reporting them... And stop buying stuff from them..
Zenimax needs to add better authentication services, preventing accounts from being hacked... So they can not be abused to spam...
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I am not being sarcastic here i am serious, are you new to MMO's ? If so as others have said, this is very common in every new release, you just need to be as pro-active as you want Zenimax to be, they cant just start banning anyone who gets reported, it has to be looked into, why ? you might ask ? Well lets say you did not like some of the racial slurs some kid is spouting in /zone chat, instead of ignoring him you tell him to STFU, well since you are dealing with a grown ass adult child, he might just falsely report you as a gold seller, so you would hope that if a false report was made about you, it was closely investigated.
I hate gold spammers, i hate the ingame-mails i get, i report every last one i come across, be part of the solution and do the same, and help Zenimax get rid of these tools.
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So about as many bots as WoW? I can deal with that.
Thanks for the reply.