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The PVP Looks Very Bad In This Game!

Macrinus101Macrinus101 Member Posts: 44

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When I saw a pvp battlegrounds stream of this once, I hated it. This game looks like nothing more then a fast paced world of warcrap clone without a tab target system. That is all it is! This game is not "WoW 2.0", it is nothing but a wow clone with added features and slightly better gameplay. 

 

http://www.twitch.tv/realblankspace/c/3940588   Just look at it, the gameplay is exactly like world of warcraft, constant button mashing of your attacks, the only difference is there is no tab target system. This game is not skill based, like wow, it doesn't matter where you aim or even where you move. All you have to do is move within range of the enemy (which is very easy) and know what attack/buff to press and when, just like world of warcrap. I could be wrong, I didn't watch the entire video but I think there even is a tab target system for ranged people, only isn't for melee guys.

 

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This game is nothing but another generic clone, there is nothing unique about it. This is just a wow clone with added features like housing and a war plot mode, now world of warcrafts expansion has followed suit with their own housing and fortification system. Considering that there are devs from world of warcrap working on this game, its no surprise. 

World of warcraft was good for its time but it is the most over-rated MMO of all time, the only reason why WoW is so popular is because it is the only MMO that uses brainwashing to make people sub. Without this, wow would not even be half as popular as it is today. Every time you die, you here this subliminal message within 13 seconds of dying in your ghost body. It usually takes more than 13 seconds to find your body 50-60% of the time anyway.

 

http://www.masterofmom.com/2013/03/world-of-warcraft-addicts-victims-of.html  There is nothing unique or special about this game at all. Its nothing but a wow clone with a sci-fi theme and slightly different gameplay. 

This game will end up being over-rated just like world of warcrap because the flock of sheep will play it and act like its the best MMO they played since wow when they are really just repeating the vanilla wow days. No innovation, more generic garbage.

 

Don't waste your time and money playing this game. I will happily be playing ESO, at least ESO is unique since it has a first person view and better pve along with being a merger of skill based/traditional mmorpg gameplay.

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  • ApolloZenApolloZen Member Posts: 5

    " The only reason why WoW is so popular is because it is the only MMO that uses brainwashing to make people sub"

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Every MMO sucks to watch, MMOs aren't appealing spectator games period unless you already understand absolutely everything happening...which you didn't cause you didn't play.

    Also on ESO being a true merger of skill based action that is just false...healing in that game is vapid... its a joke. Literally zero skill involved its all smart casted AoE...that isn't smart and hits random targets, regardless of where you aim. Its so much slower, that I never missed an aimed ability once. If you have a decent reaction time, and a proper mouse sensitivity setting you shouldn't miss ever in that game. 

    ESO is slow and clunky, the controls floaty and janky. 

    Yes Wildstar is button mashy, and if you have slow fingers/reaction speeds it isn't the game for you. But that is like saying SC2 isn't skill based because you need high APM/fast reactions.

    ESO is slow, and borked. Wildstar is fast, and mostly fluid. ESO launches in a week. Wildstar has 2 months of beta left.

    ESO has no variety in gameplay. Wildstar has a ton.

    I've played both betas enough to prefer Wildstar more. But I understand not everyone wants a frantic/fast combat system. That is fine. It is good there are different games that appeal to different people, and it is good there is competition in the market.

    I also played WoW for 6+ years and DAoC a shit ton as well, and SWTOR and GW2, TERA and SWG (pre NGE/CU), neither game is a clone of any of those, they borrow from all...just like every MMO>

    But please. Don't come here saying you WATCHED a fucking stream. State that it is a clone of a game that "used subliminal messaging" than make the blanket statement:

    "ESO is much better."

    It is subjective. And look how much negativity ESO is getting around the net. Its a good sign when the community of that game seems to be more intent on trolling Wildstar betas and forums by calling it WoW/kiddie/spammy and not skill based. It means more elitist trolls/actual kids are being drawn to the "mature" game. 

     

  • DaorokDaorok Member Posts: 55
    Check OP's post history, he's stated not more than 10 days ago that ESO wont hold his attention for more than 5 months. This thread was made only to cause a fight, like he seems to do in every forum right now. Best to just ignore it and let it fade away.

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  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,654
    I nominate OP for post of the year.
  • WololoWololo Member Posts: 72
    Originally posted by Macrinus101

    http://www.twitch.tv/realblankspace/c/3940588   Just look at it, the gameplay is exactly like world of warcraft, constant button mashing of your attacks, the only difference is there is no tab target system. This game is not skill based, like wow, it doesn't matter where you aim or even where you move. All you have to do is move within range of the enemy (which is very easy) and know what attack/buff to press and when, just like world of warcrap. I could be wrong, I didn't watch the entire video but I think there even is a tab target system for ranged people, only isn't for melee guys.

    I got to the underlined part and stopped reading. Then I saw Laughing Man's post and decided to re-read the OP, Explain this to me, OP, what subliminal message plays in WoW when you are dead? I have played that game (It seems like you are going off all second hand info) and have never heard shit when dead.

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,966

    Disregarding the OP

    Wildstar has only twitch targeting, and absolutely zero tab locked targets. How is this not making PVP good is beyond me ?



  • MothanosMothanos Member UncommonPosts: 1,910

    We all have our troll momentsw or our pick up a pitchfork and go on the offensive.
    Me to bashed ESO, but thats becuase i think that Bethesda / Zenimax could have gone the extra mile and made the bad elements suburb instead of mediocre.

    Carbine seem to have their vision, it aint a wow clone in regards to gameplay.
    People use that way to often....
    Wildstar will have its own players just like ESO does.

    My opinion about pvp in WIldstar is that their "iam on the floor mechanic" goes poof when many people are at the same spot.
    You cant make out for the life wth is happening with all that stuff on the ground.
    But all the other aspects looks solid, i wont buy it, but it aint bad as far as i have seen.
    Their engine needed to be optimized, but they have plenty of time to do so.

    I think both ESO and Wildstar are good games, but like we have seen with all mmo's they are going to have an extremely hard time holding their subs.
    Myself had enough of battleground pvp so ESO would have been the better choice for me.

    But thats me and i am just 1 guy of the millions that is seaching for a rock solid mmo that offers long term fun, not 1 month or 2 months :)
    As thats how long most mmo tank their subs these days :(

  • PatchezPatchez Member Posts: 58
    Originally posted by Macrinus101

    I pre-ordered ESO, I don't think I am going to buy this game. ESO is the only MMO/Fantasy MMO that has great gameplay in a first person view, games like Mortal Online and DarkFall Unholy wars tried this but failed miserably in terms of gameplay. 

    When I saw a pvp battlegrounds stream of this once, I hated it. This game looks like nothing more then a fast paced world of warcrap clone without a tab target system. That is all it is! This game is not "WoW 2.0", it is nothing but a wow clone with added features and slightly better gameplay. 

     

    http://www.twitch.tv/realblankspace/c/3940588   Just look at it, the gameplay is exactly like world of warcraft, constant button mashing of your attacks, the only difference is there is no tab target system. This game is not skill based, like wow, it doesn't matter where you aim or even where you move. All you have to do is move within range of the enemy (which is very easy) and know what attack/buff to press and when, just like world of warcrap. I could be wrong, I didn't watch the entire video but I think there even is a tab target system for ranged people, only isn't for melee guys.

     

    ESO is much better. Aiming matters more along with player skill, ESO is a true merger of Skill based action combat and traditional MMORPG, the aiming and melee combat is highly skill based and the attacks/buff bar is the traditional MMORPG aspect.

    This game is nothing but another generic clone, there is nothing unique about it. This is just a wow clone with added features like housing and a war plot mode, now world of warcrafts expansion has followed suit with their own housing and fortification system. Considering that there are devs from world of warcrap working on this game, its no surprise. 

    World of warcraft was good for its time but it is the most over-rated MMO of all time, the only reason why WoW is so popular is because it is the only MMO that uses brainwashing to make people sub. Without this, wow would not even be half as popular as it is today. Every time you die, you here this subliminal message within 13 seconds of dying in your ghost body. It usually takes more than 13 seconds to find your body 50-60% of the time anyway.

     

    http://www.masterofmom.com/2013/03/world-of-warcraft-addicts-victims-of.html  There is nothing unique or special about this game at all. Its nothing but a wow clone with a sci-fi theme and slightly different gameplay. 

    This game will end up being over-rated just like world of warcrap because the flock of sheep will play it and act like its the best MMO they played since wow when they are really just repeating the vanilla wow days. No innovation, more generic garbage.

     

    Don't waste your time and money playing this game. I will happily be playing ESO, at least ESO is unique since it has a first person view and better pve along with being a merger of skill based/traditional mmorpg gameplay.

    But OP?

     

    There is nothing unique about ESO. ESO does not innovate one feature, all rips of all it's ideas from games that have come before it. It IS a clone.

     

    ESO is about as generic and boring as a sword and board fantasy mmorpg get. A sprinkling of ES flavouring does not make it an ES game. ESO is just a generic tab target (thats right OP it IS a tab target game) themepark that has terrible combat.

     

    Not sure who you are trying to convince in this post, WS fans or yourself. Don't worry OP, your high purchase cost for ESO was TOTALLY worth it. You can sleep easy at night, it wasn't a waste of money at all....

     

     

  • AroukosAroukos Member Posts: 571
    Originally posted by Patchez
    Originally posted by Macrinus101

    I pre-ordered ESO, I don't think I am going to buy this game. ESO is the only MMO/Fantasy MMO that has great gameplay in a first person view, games like Mortal Online and DarkFall Unholy wars tried this but failed miserably in terms of gameplay. 

    When I saw a pvp battlegrounds stream of this once, I hated it. This game looks like nothing more then a fast paced world of warcrap clone without a tab target system. That is all it is! This game is not "WoW 2.0", it is nothing but a wow clone with added features and slightly better gameplay. 

     

    http://www.twitch.tv/realblankspace/c/3940588   Just look at it, the gameplay is exactly like world of warcraft, constant button mashing of your attacks, the only difference is there is no tab target system. This game is not skill based, like wow, it doesn't matter where you aim or even where you move. All you have to do is move within range of the enemy (which is very easy) and know what attack/buff to press and when, just like world of warcrap. I could be wrong, I didn't watch the entire video but I think there even is a tab target system for ranged people, only isn't for melee guys.

     

    ESO is much better. Aiming matters more along with player skill, ESO is a true merger of Skill based action combat and traditional MMORPG, the aiming and melee combat is highly skill based and the attacks/buff bar is the traditional MMORPG aspect.

    This game is nothing but another generic clone, there is nothing unique about it. This is just a wow clone with added features like housing and a war plot mode, now world of warcrafts expansion has followed suit with their own housing and fortification system. Considering that there are devs from world of warcrap working on this game, its no surprise. 

    World of warcraft was good for its time but it is the most over-rated MMO of all time, the only reason why WoW is so popular is because it is the only MMO that uses brainwashing to make people sub. Without this, wow would not even be half as popular as it is today. Every time you die, you here this subliminal message within 13 seconds of dying in your ghost body. It usually takes more than 13 seconds to find your body 50-60% of the time anyway.

     

    http://www.masterofmom.com/2013/03/world-of-warcraft-addicts-victims-of.html  There is nothing unique or special about this game at all. Its nothing but a wow clone with a sci-fi theme and slightly different gameplay. 

    This game will end up being over-rated just like world of warcrap because the flock of sheep will play it and act like its the best MMO they played since wow when they are really just repeating the vanilla wow days. No innovation, more generic garbage.

     

    Don't waste your time and money playing this game. I will happily be playing ESO, at least ESO is unique since it has a first person view and better pve along with being a merger of skill based/traditional mmorpg gameplay.

    But OP?

     

    There is nothing unique about ESO. ESO does not innovate one feature, all rips of all it's ideas from games that have come before it. It IS a clone.

     

    ESO is about as generic and boring as a sword and board fantasy mmorpg get. A sprinkling of ES flavouring does not make it an ES game. ESO is just a generic tab target (thats right OP it IS a tab target game) themepark that has terrible combat.

     

    Not sure who you are trying to convince in this post, WS fans or yourself. Don't worry OP, your high purchase cost for ESO was TOTALLY worth it. You can sleep easy at night, it wasn't a waste of money at all....

     

     

     

    Very well said Patchez ^^

  • Deerhunter71Deerhunter71 Member Posts: 527

    I actually agree with the OP.  Look at this video the 2 minute mark - are they really leaving telegraphing in for PvP.  If so that is just a bad design if you ask me - it just dumbs it down way too much!

     

  • gwei1984gwei1984 Member UncommonPosts: 413
    I would recommend to put every OP that starts a ESO/WS bash in the other ones forums in the pillory and give 'em some good whips. God, these comparisons are so annoying on both sides :(

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  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,654
    Originally posted by Deerhunter71

    I actually agree with the OP.  Look at this video the 2 minute mark - are they really leaving telegraphing in for PvP.  If so that is just a bad design if you ask me - it just dumbs it down way too much!

     

    Allowing the player to react is not 'dumbing it down'

    They actually really pushed to make telegraphing strategic and useful in PVP.

    Did you forget that in PVP everyone being on the same playing field doesn't 'dumb it down' it makes it 'fair'.

    You are confusing PVE and PVP

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  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083
    Actually, I really enjoyed the PvP/Battlegrounds in WildStar. It was a lot better than the PvE content and didn't feel nearly as clunky. I felt like the PvP was one of their strong points, I enjoyed it as much as I do Rift's BG's and I have two characters high rank on Rift now.

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  • killion81killion81 Member UncommonPosts: 995
    Originally posted by Macrinus101

    This game is not "WoW 2.0", it is nothing but a wow clone with added features and slightly better gameplay. 

     

    While there's all sorts of wrong in this post, I'm really curious what your definition of 2.0 is.  Is it additional features and core improvements?  That's pretty much what I'd call a version 2.0

  • ButeoRegalisButeoRegalis Member UncommonPosts: 594
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by Macrinus101

    This game is not "WoW 2.0", it is nothing but a wow clone with added features and slightly better gameplay. 

     

    While there's all sorts of wrong in this post, I'm really curious what your definition of 2.0 is.  Is it additional features and core improvements?  That's pretty much what I'd call a version 2.0

    You might find some answers in the WoW forum. Don't keep this thread alive with discussing WoW 2.0.

    Let's let this thread die a quiet death on the dung heap of misinformed rants.

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  • PsyMike3dPsyMike3d Member UncommonPosts: 388
    worst post of the year :P
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    Locking this. It's just written in a very inflammatory manner.

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