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Kajiit racial help bow damage ?
Shadanwolf
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Can someone clarify if the Kajiit racial bonus helps bow users damage output...and exactly how it does help ?
Thanks.
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Stealthy: yes - 10% dmg increase for attacks out of stealth or invisibility
Carnage: no
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ya if they want to play rouge like stealth oriented melee nightblade khijat is super popular however It doesnt bother me becuase you can be khajit in any alliance at launch so atleast the nightblade rouges will be spread out even if they all like the same race. Its not uncommon when you have racials for there to be a best race for a certain type of class. The same could be said for Undead rogues at the start of WoW Vanilla.
That's what Im doing as well. The Khajiit seems nice on paper, but if you're getting the drop on someone from stealth and get first shot on them, and CC, you're going to win most fights bonus or not. What I would be concerned with is surviving the same thing happening to me. So Imperial for the increased health for me too.
Good points. From what I played of PvP in Cyrodiil (about 15-20 hours) I noticed that the 10% increase in damage didn't really matter when really looking the numbers. Now, min/maxers will still probably want Khajiit, but in my opinion the bonuses are kinda superfluous with a solid build/gear at high levels. But, having an increase to all health/stamina you have from stats allocated or gear, at end-game, will make a larger impact I think.
And again, that proc? It might not proc all the time, but that thing would have saved me in some 1vX's I was in last beta.
are u saying that carnage 15% crit dmg doesnt apply for bows?
They are just misinformed. It has been confirmed numerous times that +15% crit dmg DOES apply to bows since it is physical damage just like melee damage. So this is still a damn good racial period and very, very worthwile.
Not sure about that. I would rate High Elf 6% permanent damage boost to elemental damage up there. Also Imperials for tanks / melee PvP (12% max HP and lifetaps).
I think the Altmer only works for the secondary effects like burning.
For PvP, Orcs have the most OP racial. People overlook them because they're Orcs. Orcs can sprint around like nobody else can, and when they get to where they want to be, they still have plenty of stamina to cleave off some arms lol. Most other races you face it's fight or flight. With Orcs it's fight or die, you can't outrun an Orc
It's been this way forever. People always call out those they cannot run away from in PvP. People to this day still cry about Feral Druid in PvP in WoW, because nobody can outrun them. Blizzard even had to change a major mechanic (separated bear and cat form specs) to try and fix it, because you could run in and bleed people then run away and go bear form and not take damage. Orc will be much the same way, skirmishing can easily take down a larger foe.
The Orc speed boost is nice for long distance running. You can get similar discounts from Medium Armor and you can get insane short range speed boosts from Sorc and NB skills (30% or 50% speed - both of which you can maintain fairly well at higher lvls.
EVERYONE doing melee builds on tweaker sites is using Khajit as the number one pick for melee damage. It just hands down wins for doing the most damage.
The real question is how long will Carnage continue to apply to bows when you consider that even the most casual weekend tester knows that the Khajiit currently have a big advantage over the race, Bosmer, that is supposed to be the best at bows?
If you roll a Khajiit for bows, you're taking a huge chance. You'll soon see a patch note that says: "* Carnage now only applies to melee damage as intended" I just hope they do it before release or the whining by all those Khajiits will be loud when they realize their secret OP race selection wasn't as secret or as OPd as they thought.
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If they made such a dratic change like that post launch they sure better offer a race change or they will be hearing it from a LOT of people.
Since when do bug fixes need explaining? Assuming it is a bug.
Oh and theres gonna be a lot more drastic changes than that, its an MMO. And people will be crying regardless.
Exactly they need to state ASAP if a bug or not as a lot of NB are using this race because of that racial bonus just like other classes are going certain races for said class bonus. This impacts a lot of builds and would be insane to change it per say after someone rolls it and hit lvl 30 and then oh by the way we made a mistake. This is not your typical bug fix, etc.
Have you even read the description of Carnage? Notice the "melee" word there? It says it for the increased chance % but doesn't say it again for the damage increase %. Do you think the % damage increase is really supposed to apply to non-melee? It's a bug and that's all it is.
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Lol. It is in there just not twice. It would probably be worse English to say it twice.
I mean, if you're going to take the position that as written it applies to all physical damage, why stop there? Why not also spell damage?
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http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/need-this-khaj-question-answered/
It seemes like Carnage now only affects melee attacks, not bow, as it was supposed to. This should bring greater diversity than making cats op in both melee and bow (which fits bosmer lore)
when I see an actual post from the maker of the game it will be official...but that link shows about dick except someone some where stating its this or that...with that said they need to completely change that talent because at end game that amount of crit is huge.
I'll be rolling for it alone but for completely different reasons than the select few whom are privy as to why.
From the AMA....
That’s a bug. Whoops! I thought we fixed it already. I’ll check to make sure that’s fixed today! Should be good to go for launch.