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At what age do you feel that people should realize........
Reklaw
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The game is not for them?
At first I Always thought it was some very young individual or just some unexperianced gamer that stalked games they didn't like on forums, making sure everyone knows their negative feelings about that game.
Then I started clicking on personal info of posters and was quite suprised to see both much older gamers aswell as very experianced gamers to post these same type of post in forum sections of games they didn't like or fail to meet their expectations. I was even more suprised when reading what game they did like yet they hardly made any post in those sections.
Don't get me wrong each and every person has the right to voice his/her opinion. But what is this obsession to be active in forum sections of games that don't interest you and be less or not at all active in forum sections of the game(s) you do like?
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How many are completely honest about their age, home etc.?
How many just like to troll, flame, and cause an argument rather than a discussion?
How many think themselves 'better' and know more than everyone else here?
For me the answer, doesn't matter. I play what I want, discuss when it's fun for me, and even joke around a bit (even if some take it too seriously).
I had fun once, it was terrible.
I think I fit your description. I'm a 32 year old male, I think ESO is terrible and Wildstar is great. Here's the thing though, many here are judging a book by the cover and some are not. I tend to believe I am one who is not. If you merely took screenshots of the two games and asked, which one is more likely to appeal to kids and which one is not? Cleary Wildstar looks like it appeals to kids more. (Keep in mind they are both video games and they are for liesure, they are not what defines us, especially adults.)
For some folks, that's good enough, that's all they need to know/see and thier minds are made up. If we stopped right there, then you would have an excellent reason to be surprised as you described in your op. Now as I said I tend not to judge a book by it's cover, as I read both of these books Wildstar and ESO, I simply like what I am reading in Wildstar and with ESO I am upset.
That disappointment has everything to do with what I expected as I played Skyrim over the past couple years and thought how nice co op or multiplayer would be and it has nothing to do with Wildstar. ESO graphically wonderful, but for me that's pretty much where the good things stop.
For me the combat is to clunky, the mmorpg as a whole is to one dimensional, the experience feels like I'm paying for a triple A mmorpg but getting a single player game with multiplayer tacked on to the end,the questing was horrendous especially with all the other people opening boxes and killing mobs and all the running and click here to talk to so and so then click here again to the npc that's 5 feet away? Why do I have to click? Why didn't they just start talking? The massive identity crises for each class, the many excuses for why things are like they are, the sound of the same loot chest opening every two seconds while I am trying to read a book, when I pull a mob and only one member comes even though the three units in the mob were nearly standing on top of each other, animations animations animations.....
I could keep going but as you could imagine I dont want to read any more of this book.
Don't ask about Wildstar, it has nothing to do with ESO and it's off limits to talk about for the common folk.
I tend to get really mad at things that are almost great, or could have been great except for one or two design decisions that are stupid and/or evil (in my opinion, which sometimes coincides with objective reality and sometimes doesn't). This isn't just for games, but also books, anime, even things that aren't entertainment like political candidates. If one bad apple is ruining my barrel, I feel it's worth loudly explaining why so in the future others will hopefully avoid making that one choice that would ruin more future things for me.
As an amateur designer myself, there are plenty of things that work for my particular gamer archetype, and I wouldn't know if they don't work for different types of gamers unless I've read a forum post explaining how and why.
I'm an idealist, and often deeply disappointed by how un-ideal reality is, when I can so easily imagine how much better something could be.
I realize my previous answer might be too vague, so I'm changing it.
New answer 14.
Age is a state of mind. Period.
Im 45 but still have moments where I act 25.. Doing stupid shit like street racing any chance I get.
When it comes to gaming, Ive always tried to be the optimist. If I don't have anything positive to say about a game, typically I just wont post.
Lets see your Battle Stations /r/battlestations
Battle Station
Well I believe that just like in real life.... It's much easier to tear something down than it is to build something up.
Sad but True
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Age has nothing to do with aberrant semi-sociopathic behavior. And make no mistake about it, constantly visiting forums here for games you don't like to make negative posts is not normal.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
With all seriousness, whilst i totally agree and support your stance on where you believe games are going, it's also up to you to accept the changes the industry make to these games. Money is the only deciding factor and if it makes money, more of the same will be made in wanting some of that.
I vote with my wallet, and there's a difference in debating an opinion, and degrading others for not thinking the same (not pointing at you specifically). We may not all like the same thing, and personally I think this is great as more variety means more things to try.
Those games that do poorly will only hurt themselves and show where money should be really spent, but if enough people pay for those games you dislike, it should in no way reflect on your likes or convictions. Keep up the good fight.
Well, I know for a fact I'm abnormal, though I seldom bemoan games for this or that. Posters, that's another matter entirely, but games rarely.
And no, I'm not 'bemoaning' about you. (Just in case, one never knows
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I understand that other people have different opinions. The problem is that voting with your wallet doesn't do any good. Your only recourse is to complain and whine about it. There are to many people willing to shell out money for a game where they will solo and quit in a month.
Please tell me what you think of this game, but only if you like it. If you don't like it, stay the f*** out of our forum.
Is this what is being advocated?
Internet+Anonymous posting/chatting= Asshatery reguardless of age.
People of all age can act like idiots if nobody knows who they are...and many do.
Yeah I would take almost any single player game these days over an MMO. Games like Skyrim, Mass Effect, Uncharted, Dark Souls, Tomb Raider, The Witcher, and even simple old school games like Shadowrun Returns are better experiences IMO. That's not even taking into account games like Far Cry 3 and Assassin's Creed. There are a lot of games I'm sure I've missed and there are a lot of indie games as well that can sometimes be fun. Magicka is a kind of goofy old school game with an innovative magic system. There are just lots of good single player and co op experiences that don't require you to spend extra money and offer more interactivity and a better story.
Age is irrelevant on the internet. Same goes for Gender, Sexual orientation and ethnicity.
As to why people post more negative than positive threads,
If I had to make a guess.. I'd say there is a very large population of 'homeless' MMORPG'ers and releasing their frustration on MMORPG forums is their way of begging for 'change'.
For the most part they're posting because they can because they enjoy doing it because at the end of the day spoiling your fun is is good reason as any for them to post and the thing is you let them get away with it.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I'd think if people who vented their frustrations about MMOs were homeless they would have more to worry about then MMOs, wouldn't have access to the internet, and even if they did they wouldn't have access to a computer where they could play MMORPGs. PCs are a fairly expensive investment if you are talking about gaming.
I do believe he meant without an MMo to call home. Might be wrong though.
This is so very true.
One day I might grow up, but I have a feeling I'll hate life if I do.
You trolling me brah?
Seriously though, that was cute. I had a good laugh.
There is nothing wrong with arguments - heated or not -- between people who are in a forum discussing things they share an interest in. Just like there is nothing wrong with discussing MMOs in general in the Pub or any of the other general forums here and arguing about them.
There is also nothing wrong with visiting a forum for a game you're curious about, deciding you don't care for it and making a negative post or a negative thread about it.
But that's not what either the OP nor I are talking about. We're talking about habitual trolls who go to forums for games they hate to post negative shit and stir the pot day after day , usually for months. The more popular the game is on the hit-counter here, the more of those weirdos it attracts.
And there is something wrong with them, I assure you.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED