OP you aren't missing anything. Zenimax's hype machine is working really well right now. As we have seen in the past, hype leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering. Get your popcorn ready and enjoy the show
The skills and abilities system is one of the most generic offerings I've seen in a while. It consists of leveling up, clicking a plus, get some new skill. That's if you remember to do so, 2 of our party forgot about it and spent the first couple of hours spamming 1 and clicking their mouse!
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What a lack of memory you all have. But seriously, did you ever used skills in a game? Forgeting about that, it's not only lack of interest, i think it's a bigger issue
A game needs to grab you by the balls as soon as you start playing. That does not mean if its difficult and you lack any knowledge about the game you will shun it but features and the allure of playing the game should do that. One example is SWG which was extremely hard to learn and had a steep learning curve but it made you want to learn to play the game.
I found it boring, bland and the combat system a bit simplistic. I played a rogue kind of character and I found the 'third hand' when using an ability wierd.
Sorry to say I had this pre-ordered and I cancelled it. I had so huge high hopes of playing a good brand new mmo this year but it seems it is not going to happen.
Originally posted by greenreen Originally posted by DMKanoWhy do folks here get all upset about someone not liking the game after they tried it for a little bit?If someone hates TESO after only playing it for 5 minutes, its their choice, let them be.Same thing happens with every game, there are folks who will hate any game and quit after a really short period of time.And that is fine.
It is fine but it doesn't need to be repetitive. There have been a slew of people who come here over and over to tell everyone over and over what they didn't like. It makes it hard to have interesting conversation about things when every 4th post is "ftp in a year" "sucks".
It's the vested interest that bugs me - there are hundreds of games on these forums, if you are returning to one you don't like to sully it - that's an emotional issue that needs working out beyond this forum. Spread out the hate, is that a lot to ask - go tell the other 200 games you don't like them to, don't let ESO be a pet project like it stole money from your grandmother.
The same could be said about the positive posts. How many times do we need to read that the game is great and that it's the second coming for MMO's? ESO is a hot topic right now, and thus, it will be posted about more than the 200+ other games on this site, for good and bad.
And I'm calling it now...ESO stole money from many peoples grandmothers :P
So basically you are saying due to your lack of knowledge, interest and patience (as you clearly havent spent a lot of time with the game), this game sucks?
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It wasn't exactly like GW2 so.....of course it sucks!
What is with this supposed obligatory time frame people are saying is necessary to determine if a game sucks or not?
I've played just about every supposed AAA title game ever and one thing is constant...if it sucks, it sucks...it will suck at the start, at the middle, and at the end. Now it may be improved on and eventually become a good game ( FF14 a good example).
IMHO the entire deal is if you don't like ES games you won't like ESO.
For me Skyrim was amazing, but for the first few hours, probably about 10, it was confusing and I wasn't sure of what to do. After that it was one of the best experiences I have ever had with an PC RPG. ESO is clearly the same way. People don't know what they are doing and just giving up and saying the game is no good. Stick with it and see if it turns out amazing.
People who don't like the interface and the controls, are clearly not fans or haven't played any of the Elder Scrolls games. The game has to stay somewhat structured to the origial games for it to be a part of the franchise.
If the controls seem clunky, well that is how they have been throughout the series. It is an in your face game where you can play in first person for gaming immursion, or scroll to third person for the situation. Changing this to a more generic WoW/Rift control system would destroy the feel of Elder Scrolls. The game itself runs smooth and feels perfect imho.
This game isn't Skyrim, it isn't Oblivion either. Look at the differences from Morrowind to Skyrim, they are remarkable. On that note, you can not honestly believe the same engine that runs Skyrim can handle hundreds of people battling in the same area. Get the idea of ESO being Skyrim out of your head, its not and can't be.
If you are a fan of Skyrim remove it from your brain before playing ESO. ESO has major elements of Skyrim but it is impossible for it to be on the same level. On the other hand when you play Skyrim, think of ESO. Whenever I have played Skyrim I have always wanted to play with friends and family, well now I can. The races, lore, and the Lands of Nirn are all there and it is going to be amazing to me discovering it with others.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Agreed. I'm going to pass on this game as well. It has the majority of the bad features that I predicted it would have.
First person mode + no auction house are the two big benefits in my eyes, but the rest of it is just ugh. The adventure zones have low detail, they feel unrealistic. After the high standard that skyrim has set with its extremely detailed landscapes, it is just painful to play this game, because it is vastly subpar in level of detail. The roads feel like they are painted onto the terrain with a brush, the vegetation is lackluster, trees are used more sparsely to improve performance, I could go on and on. Visually it just isn't up to the standard.
Archery is boring and takes no effort to use, since arrows are infinite and even if you do miss, they will home in on the target.
There is no content in aventure zones besides the rifts or whatever they are called, the quests, and gathering. Just an all-around themepark clone. It's a shame so many people will buy this. Because if this is successful, some developer somewhere will make his game just like this one. Cycle repeats.
The amount of hyped up fanboys ingame is also ridiculous. Any criticism will get an insane amount of hate from them. It's sad to see so many people blindly buying into the hype. All I can say is, enjoy another 3 monther.
Up next, Wildstar! Can I hear a round of applause?
"Its a shame so many people will buy this game"
Wow it sure would be a shame if someone made money on a game they spent millions of dollars to make, ya that would be simply AWEFULL. But in ending with "Up next Wildstar", its pretty clear this is a the grass is always greener on the other side post, What are you going to do when Wildstar isn't good enough either, what's up next then?
Try enjoying what's right in front of you and not just wanting what you don't have yet. life will be allot more enjoyable.
Could not get into it at all. I love TES games, and this is a terrible rendition of it. No TES game should be made into an MMO, it cheapens it IMO. The RvR part was fun for a bit, but it actually made me re sub DAOC, for it s superior.
Originally posted by Soki123 Could not get into it at all. I love TES games, and this is a terrible rendition of it. No TES game should be made into an MMO, it cheapens it IMO. The RvR part was fun for a bit, but it actually made me re sub DAOC, for it s superior.
You got all the way to PvP but couldn't get into the game at all? hmmm
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Why do folks here get all upset about someone not liking the game after they tried it for a little bit?
If someone hates TESO after only playing it for 5 minutes, its their choice, let them be.
Same thing happens with every game, there are folks who will hate any game and quit after a really short period of time.
And that is fine.
It is fine but it doesn't need to be repetitive. There have been a slew of people who come here over and over to tell everyone over and over what they didn't like. It makes it hard to have interesting conversation about things when every 4th post is "ftp in a year" "sucks".
It's the vested interest that bugs me - there are hundreds of games on these forums, if you are returning to one you don't like to sully it - that's an emotional issue that needs working out beyond this forum. Spread out the hate, is that a lot to ask - go tell the other 200 games you don't like them to, don't let ESO be a pet project like it stole money from your grandmother.
I'll go on to add that all over the Internet for the past two weeks there have been plenty of professional reviewers who found the opening levels of the game to be lacking. Most of those same publications later revised their opinion after more progression and playing PVP. Anyone with interest in the game (and a little sense) would have seen what Angry Joe or PC Gamer had to say before today.
But what was the reason for the OP? To confirm that all the more articulate better informed professionals are correct? Thanks. Not needed, but thanks anyway.
Originally posted by Soki123 Could not get into it at all. I love TES games, and this is a terrible rendition of it. No TES game should be made into an MMO, it cheapens it IMO. The RvR part was fun for a bit, but it actually made me re sub DAOC, for it s superior.
You got all the way to PvP but couldn't get into the game at all? hmmm
Well, yes had to try it. If it was worth it on that alone
Originally posted by Soki123 Could not get into it at all. I love TES games, and this is a terrible rendition of it. No TES game should be made into an MMO, it cheapens it IMO. The RvR part was fun for a bit, but it actually made me re sub DAOC, for it s superior.
You got all the way to PvP but couldn't get into the game at all? hmmm
Well, yes had to try it. If it was worth it on that alone
Sorry, to me "not getting into it at all", is just an hour or two and quitting. You would have invested way more time than that if you were in any kind of RvR.
Dungeons and group content? Crafting different gear? End game? You could have experienced this too. If you are into games just for PvP then probably an mmoRPG isn't what you are looking for.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I think the game either clicks or for those who can eventually accept it, an acquired taste.
The game is hardly generic fantasy. Dungeons and Dragons is is sort of "generic fantasy" and it's nothing like that.
@OP: I hate to say this (really I do) but what level did you get to? The reason I ask, and it's unfortunate, is that the starter area can be rather bland. In the newest build (which you are not playing) they added the ability to bypass it as many people, including reviewers didn't like it.
The quests open up, you get more puzzle quests, you actually get more dungeons/mines to explore (though not as many as an ES game and from what I've seen so far not as interesting) and it seems that getting past 10 and upward is the "magic" number.
yes, yes, I know a game should grab you 'blah blah blah" but for many, unfortunately this is not the case.
I wanted "morrowind online" and the first time I played this (sort of knowing that it wasn't going to be "morrowind online" I was a bit dissapointed. It took several playthroughs and some "letting go" before I found the "magic" in it.
Get to level 10 and try some realm vs realm if you can do that.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
I've seen folks in here blasting the OP for having tried the game for "a couple of hours" or whatever, when they didn't practice what they're suddenly preaching now. Totally trolling other titles after having tried them for a few hours.
Agreed. I'm going to pass on this game as well. It has the majority of the bad features that I predicted it would have.
First person mode + no auction house are the two big benefits in my eyes, but the rest of it is just ugh. The adventure zones have low detail, they feel unrealistic. After the high standard that skyrim has set with its extremely detailed landscapes, it is just painful to play this game, because it is vastly subpar in level of detail. The roads feel like they are painted onto the terrain with a brush, the vegetation is lackluster, trees are used more sparsely to improve performance, I could go on and on. Visually it just isn't up to the standard.
Archery is boring and takes no effort to use, since arrows are infinite and even if you do miss, they will home in on the target.
There is no content in aventure zones besides the rifts or whatever they are called, the quests, and gathering. Just an all-around themepark clone. It's a shame so many people will buy this. Because if this is successful, some developer somewhere will make his game just like this one. Cycle repeats.
The amount of hyped up fanboys ingame is also ridiculous. Any criticism will get an insane amount of hate from them. It's sad to see so many people blindly buying into the hype. All I can say is, enjoy another 3 monther.
Up next, Wildstar! Can I hear a round of applause?
"Its a shame so many people will buy this game"
Wow it sure would be a shame if someone made money on a game they spent millions of dollars to make, ya that would be simply AWEFULL. But in ending with "Up next Wildstar", its pretty clear this is a the grass is always greener on the other side post, What are you going to do when Wildstar isn't good enough either, what's up next then?
Try enjoying what's right in front of you and not just wanting what you don't have yet. life will be allot more enjoyable.
Why in the heck would it shame to you that someone would buy what they like? I'm not into going to a brothel and buying a hooker, but I'm not ashamed others do. They enjoy it..
I didn't like playing Defiance, but I wasn't ashamed my son and daughter in law liked it. What is even better, I didn't go on the Defiance forum and tell others it was a shame they bought it.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by Amjoco Why in the heck would it shame to you that someone would buy what they like? I'm not into going to a brothel and buying a hooker, but I'm not ashamed others do. They enjoy it..
I didn't like playing Defiance, but I wasn't ashamed my son and daughter in law liked it. What is even better, I didn't go on the Defiance forum and tell others it was a shame they bought it.
It is a shame because then the next game that comes out will be just as awful as this one. If people didn't buy these horrible paint by numbers theme park games maybe we would have some MMORPG actually worth playing for once instead of 8+ years of just awful releases.
ESO and WildStar are a pox on the genre and hopefully they both fail miserably so nobody else makes another MMORPG like this one.
ESO took a bit of time to grow on me. I really didn't like it the first time I played but as the betas have improved, the game has really grown on me. I think the game is there to be savored and enjoyed at a slower pace. The world seems well done to me and I've enjoyed my time from the first point that I stepped out oft he prison. I managed to get my husband interested as well I and now he is hooked. Initially he wasn't a fan.
I do have to agree on the UI though and controls. This is a weak point of the game for me and I do hope they improve things along the way. Then again, Skyrim bugged me for the exact same reasons. Some things are a bit hard to figure out. For example my friend and I were trying to trade. We stood there for 10 minutes clicking, reading the help guides, etc. We finally asked in chat (folks were very helpful). Seems that we needed to drop group which is strange. Otherwise, it is just growing pains of learning a new game. A few other things annoy me. Why can't we swim? I love my underwater exploration. Then, again you can't have everything.
I think that we will love our time in Tamriel. I'm a crafter at heart and am very excited about the crafting system. Also love exploring and seeing every nook and cranny. ESO has many of the elements I love in an MMO. Now just give us customizable housing at some point and I will be a happy camper.
OP, I hope that you find your game this year. It is important to find a game that you can play with your friends. Many of my friends are gravitating to ESO and I'm happy to have a game we can play together. Good luck to you and happy gaming. If I could offer any advice, just take it slowly and play a bit more. Perhaps the game will grow on you like it did for me.
Originally posted by Amjoco Why in the heck would it shame to you that someone would buy what they like? I'm not into going to a brothel and buying a hooker, but I'm not ashamed others do. They enjoy it..
I didn't like playing Defiance, but I wasn't ashamed my son and daughter in law liked it. What is even better, I didn't go on the Defiance forum and tell others it was a shame they bought it.
It is a shame because then the next game that comes out will be just as awful as this one. If people didn't buy these horrible paint by numbers theme park games maybe we would have some MMORPG actually worth playing for once instead of 8+ years of just awful releases.
ESO and WildStar are a pox on the genre and hopefully they both fail miserably so nobody else makes another MMORPG like this one.
But, this is what thousands of people like. Just because you don't like it don't feel bad for those that do.
Go play a game you enjoy and you won't have to be so unhappy.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
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What a lack of memory you all have. But seriously, did you ever used skills in a game? Forgeting about that, it's not only lack of interest, i think it's a bigger issue
A game needs to grab you by the balls as soon as you start playing. That does not mean if its difficult and you lack any knowledge about the game you will shun it but features and the allure of playing the game should do that. One example is SWG which was extremely hard to learn and had a steep learning curve but it made you want to learn to play the game.
I found it boring, bland and the combat system a bit simplistic. I played a rogue kind of character and I found the 'third hand' when using an ability wierd.
Sorry to say I had this pre-ordered and I cancelled it. I had so huge high hopes of playing a good brand new mmo this year but it seems it is not going to happen.
It's the vested interest that bugs me - there are hundreds of games on these forums, if you are returning to one you don't like to sully it - that's an emotional issue that needs working out beyond this forum. Spread out the hate, is that a lot to ask - go tell the other 200 games you don't like them to, don't let ESO be a pet project like it stole money from your grandmother.
The same could be said about the positive posts. How many times do we need to read that the game is great and that it's the second coming for MMO's? ESO is a hot topic right now, and thus, it will be posted about more than the 200+ other games on this site, for good and bad.
And I'm calling it now...ESO stole money from many peoples grandmothers :P
It wasn't exactly like GW2 so.....of course it sucks!
What is with this supposed obligatory time frame people are saying is necessary to determine if a game sucks or not?
I've played just about every supposed AAA title game ever and one thing is constant...if it sucks, it sucks...it will suck at the start, at the middle, and at the end. Now it may be improved on and eventually become a good game ( FF14 a good example).
IMHO the entire deal is if you don't like ES games you won't like ESO.
For me Skyrim was amazing, but for the first few hours, probably about 10, it was confusing and I wasn't sure of what to do. After that it was one of the best experiences I have ever had with an PC RPG. ESO is clearly the same way. People don't know what they are doing and just giving up and saying the game is no good. Stick with it and see if it turns out amazing.
People who don't like the interface and the controls, are clearly not fans or haven't played any of the Elder Scrolls games. The game has to stay somewhat structured to the origial games for it to be a part of the franchise.
If the controls seem clunky, well that is how they have been throughout the series. It is an in your face game where you can play in first person for gaming immursion, or scroll to third person for the situation. Changing this to a more generic WoW/Rift control system would destroy the feel of Elder Scrolls. The game itself runs smooth and feels perfect imho.
This game isn't Skyrim, it isn't Oblivion either. Look at the differences from Morrowind to Skyrim, they are remarkable. On that note, you can not honestly believe the same engine that runs Skyrim can handle hundreds of people battling in the same area. Get the idea of ESO being Skyrim out of your head, its not and can't be.
If you are a fan of Skyrim remove it from your brain before playing ESO. ESO has major elements of Skyrim but it is impossible for it to be on the same level. On the other hand when you play Skyrim, think of ESO. Whenever I have played Skyrim I have always wanted to play with friends and family, well now I can. The races, lore, and the Lands of Nirn are all there and it is going to be amazing to me discovering it with others.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
don't buy it if you don't like it.
the game does not suck,it does not blow me away but its fun.
"Its a shame so many people will buy this game"
Wow it sure would be a shame if someone made money on a game they spent millions of dollars to make, ya that would be simply AWEFULL. But in ending with "Up next Wildstar", its pretty clear this is a the grass is always greener on the other side post, What are you going to do when Wildstar isn't good enough either, what's up next then?
Try enjoying what's right in front of you and not just wanting what you don't have yet. life will be allot more enjoyable.
You got all the way to PvP but couldn't get into the game at all? hmmm
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I'll go on to add that all over the Internet for the past two weeks there have been plenty of professional reviewers who found the opening levels of the game to be lacking. Most of those same publications later revised their opinion after more progression and playing PVP. Anyone with interest in the game (and a little sense) would have seen what Angry Joe or PC Gamer had to say before today.
But what was the reason for the OP? To confirm that all the more articulate better informed professionals are correct? Thanks. Not needed, but thanks anyway.
Well, yes had to try it. If it was worth it on that alone
Sorry, to me "not getting into it at all", is just an hour or two and quitting. You would have invested way more time than that if you were in any kind of RvR.
Dungeons and group content? Crafting different gear? End game? You could have experienced this too. If you are into games just for PvP then probably an mmoRPG isn't what you are looking for.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I think the game either clicks or for those who can eventually accept it, an acquired taste.
The game is hardly generic fantasy. Dungeons and Dragons is is sort of "generic fantasy" and it's nothing like that.
@OP: I hate to say this (really I do) but what level did you get to? The reason I ask, and it's unfortunate, is that the starter area can be rather bland. In the newest build (which you are not playing) they added the ability to bypass it as many people, including reviewers didn't like it.
The quests open up, you get more puzzle quests, you actually get more dungeons/mines to explore (though not as many as an ES game and from what I've seen so far not as interesting) and it seems that getting past 10 and upward is the "magic" number.
yes, yes, I know a game should grab you 'blah blah blah" but for many, unfortunately this is not the case.
I wanted "morrowind online" and the first time I played this (sort of knowing that it wasn't going to be "morrowind online" I was a bit dissapointed. It took several playthroughs and some "letting go" before I found the "magic" in it.
Get to level 10 and try some realm vs realm if you can do that.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I've seen folks in here blasting the OP for having tried the game for "a couple of hours" or whatever, when they didn't practice what they're suddenly preaching now. Totally trolling other titles after having tried them for a few hours.
You aren't missing anything, it is just a bad game. Still better than WildStar but that doesn't take much.
The MMORPG genre is in an awful state atm.
Why in the heck would it shame to you that someone would buy what they like? I'm not into going to a brothel and buying a hooker, but I'm not ashamed others do. They enjoy it..
I didn't like playing Defiance, but I wasn't ashamed my son and daughter in law liked it. What is even better, I didn't go on the Defiance forum and tell others it was a shame they bought it.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
It is a shame because then the next game that comes out will be just as awful as this one. If people didn't buy these horrible paint by numbers theme park games maybe we would have some MMORPG actually worth playing for once instead of 8+ years of just awful releases.
ESO and WildStar are a pox on the genre and hopefully they both fail miserably so nobody else makes another MMORPG like this one.
ESO took a bit of time to grow on me. I really didn't like it the first time I played but as the betas have improved, the game has really grown on me. I think the game is there to be savored and enjoyed at a slower pace. The world seems well done to me and I've enjoyed my time from the first point that I stepped out oft he prison. I managed to get my husband interested as well I and now he is hooked. Initially he wasn't a fan.
I do have to agree on the UI though and controls. This is a weak point of the game for me and I do hope they improve things along the way. Then again, Skyrim bugged me for the exact same reasons. Some things are a bit hard to figure out. For example my friend and I were trying to trade. We stood there for 10 minutes clicking, reading the help guides, etc. We finally asked in chat (folks were very helpful). Seems that we needed to drop group which is strange. Otherwise, it is just growing pains of learning a new game. A few other things annoy me. Why can't we swim? I love my underwater exploration. Then, again you can't have everything.
I think that we will love our time in Tamriel. I'm a crafter at heart and am very excited about the crafting system. Also love exploring and seeing every nook and cranny. ESO has many of the elements I love in an MMO. Now just give us customizable housing at some point and I will be a happy camper.
OP, I hope that you find your game this year. It is important to find a game that you can play with your friends. Many of my friends are gravitating to ESO and I'm happy to have a game we can play together. Good luck to you and happy gaming. If I could offer any advice, just take it slowly and play a bit more. Perhaps the game will grow on you like it did for me.
But, this is what thousands of people like. Just because you don't like it don't feel bad for those that do.
Go play a game you enjoy and you won't have to be so unhappy.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.