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OMG - Gods & Heroes is instanced!

I had no idea, went to their site today to check out the progress cause someone told me the dev's just posted an update - and it's another lame assed intanced game, not an MMO at all. I feel sorry for the people that are waiting for this & are expecting an MMO cause they ain't gonna get one - rofl.

I was sceptical about the dev team background not being from the MMO world but now it all makes sense they never intended to release an MMO - n00bs.

-Adam

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  • DarktaniaDarktania Member Posts: 805

    You sound more like you're trying to convince yourself this game is going to suck than anything else. This game will rock and you know it.

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  • andermananderman Member Posts: 70

    I was really into the idea of G&H but having played Guild Wars, I just can't stand instanced worlds they are so very, very poor.

    But we'll see if G&H has the same model as GW i.e. they sell the box and entry is free then I would buy it for sure. But if they're expecting to offload an instanced game as an MMO with monthly fee I won't be buying it & I think they'll die very quickly as people just won't accept paying full price for a cut down MMO.

    -Adam

  • arvainisarvainis Member Posts: 548
    I feel sorry for you because all the reviews and the Devs have said the Instanced areas are there for a reason, not just to have instances in the game.  Or perhaps you're just an RV fanboi trying to bash the game as those are becoming pretty common.

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  • Entreri28Entreri28 Member Posts: 589
    I am never going to play another instance based game after GW.  I'll play an offline game before I play another.  Also, what happened I thought this game was coming out like in October or November?

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  • jaredm2525jaredm2525 Member Posts: 8

    Yeah, instancing will kill it. I have been really looking forward to it, but if they have instancing, I wont play it. This is already a...ummm...cant think of the word...non-big game? What I mean is that this game does not have a big lable (ie Sony). It is not based off a big movie or popular game. It is what some guy thought would be a good subject (and is) and he thought to make a game out of it. They better get everything right because, if just a few small things go wrong, the game will die.

    The whole minion thing is a great idea, however. I hope they get it right the first time.

  • arvainisarvainis Member Posts: 548

    Wow I'm glad Jared just stepped upm and proclaimed himself, "He who knows what all gamers want."  Wait a minute!  I'm a "gamer" and I do not mind some instancing if it is done correctly.  Hmmm I guess you do not know what all gamers want and what will make a good game.

    And Yes I was feeling particularly sarcastic tonight =)

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  • Entreri28Entreri28 Member Posts: 589



    Originally posted by arvainis

    Wow I'm glad Jared just stepped upm and proclaimed himself, "He who knows what all gamers want."  Wait a minute!  I'm a "gamer" and I do not mind some instancing if it is done correctly.  Hmmm I guess you do not know what all gamers want and what will make a good game.
    And Yes I was feeling particularly sarcastic tonight =)



    Are you talking to me?

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  • DarktaniaDarktania Member Posts: 805

      What's so bad about Instancing? Instance dungeons can be great cuz you dont have to worry about another party running up and stealing a key spawn. Or a pair of pre-teen griefers aggravating your party.

       And Jared correct me if I'm wrong but you said that another mark against this game is that it's not being made by a big name company such as Sony. In my book thats a plus. I've seen what so called "Big Name" companies can do to a game such as EQ2 and SWG. Verant wasnt big when they introduced EQ1 to the world and the game was a huge success. It took a "Big Name" company to come along and turn it more into a "business" and less a game. "Big Name" companies tend to be bad for mmorpg's because they're more concerned about profit margins and less about gaming. 

     

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  • GrimSkunk2GrimSkunk2 Member Posts: 451

    Instancing gets rid of human interaction- it turns an MMO into a 1-8 player game with a 3D chat room and, being that many single player games implement a funtion like that alread for free (Guild Wars, Mechwarrior, Diablo, etc.) it would make financial sense not to bother with 1-8 player games just because they have a 3D chat system. Give me a text-based chat room to find players and instance me in for free instead.

    Yuck.

    -W.

  • SlagggSlaggg Member Posts: 221

    My question here is how widespread is the instancing?  Is most of the world instanced with a few social centers to justify the 'massive'?

    Or are there going to be several 'dungeons' that are instanced for a single party only, ala Gnomeragan or the VC instances in WoW?

    If the latter, then I see nothing wrong with it.  It allows that party to have a copy of the dungeon all to themselves, ensuring that EVERYONE that plays the game has a shot at the XP and loot in said dungeon, without having to wait forever and a day for a re-spawn, only to get up for a soda and come back to find out that some other party squeezed ahead.  Besides, those of you that are saying that you won't play a game that has instances are SOL.  Instances aren't going anywhere.

     

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  • BennjimBennjim Member Posts: 146

    Yep, I'd like to know what the level and circumstances of instancing will be in this game? Anyone know?

    Benny.................................

  • neckleatherneckleather Member Posts: 12
    Good job killing your own game.Me and the other 90% of gamers will pass this by just for that reason.Nice.

    asd

  • GrimSkunk2GrimSkunk2 Member Posts: 451


    Originally posted by Slaggg
    My question here is how widespread is the instancing? Is most of the world instanced with a few social centers to justify the 'massive'?
    Or are there going to be several 'dungeons' that are instanced for a single party only, ala Gnomeragan or the VC instances in WoW?
    If the latter, then I see nothing wrong with it. It allows that party to have a copy of the dungeon all to themselves, ensuring that EVERYONE that plays the game has a shot at the XP and loot in said dungeon, without having to wait forever and a day for a re-spawn, only to get up for a soda and come back to find out that some other party squeezed ahead. Besides, those of you that are saying that you won't play a game that has instances are SOL. Instances aren't going anywhere.

    I disagree. I think developers are trying to see what people are looking for. I' finding many games are stepping away from the instanced and more towards the persistant (only using instances where appropriate).

    -W.

  • arvainisarvainis Member Posts: 548
    The reviewers from e3 said the game will only use instancing when required.  Instanced areas are not there just for the heck of it.  Take that for what you will.  If the game interests you give it a try when it goes Live.  If you don't like the instancing don't play it.  Just don't trash it before we even have a chance to try the BETA and see what happens.

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  • JorevJorev Member Posts: 1,500

    Too much instancing ala GW sucks. It ruins immersion and defeats the point of playing a MMOG. Might as well play a single box via Lan.

    Ps. I hate RV because of their proposed revenue system and misleading promotion of game mechanics, so am not a RV fanboi bashing G&H.

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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,000



    Originally posted by Darktania

      What's so bad about Instancing? Instance dungeons can be great cuz you dont have to worry about another party running up and stealing a key spawn. Or a pair of pre-teen griefers aggravating your party.
      



    Things like what you just mentioned here is what made games like UO and EQ1 so addictive and competitive. Instancing and Voicechat are the death of the MMO genre.

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  • ahsudburyahsudbury Member Posts: 29

    Hello everyone,

    I think y'all need to sit back, take a deeeeeeeep breath, and ask yourselves one question before this discussion goes any further: "Does anyone really know exactly what role instancing is going to have in this game?"  You will realize that the answer is, of course, No.  Everyone is commenting based on conjecture and guesswork.

    If the game winds up being in the mold of Guild Wars, I surmise that most people will not put up with a monthly subscription.  If, however, it turns out that it is a for-real MMOG where the only instancing is dungeons, then we have a totally different story.  There are many good reasons for an instanced dungeon.

    Ultimately, however, I think that the verbal dueling that takes place on these forums based on one or two sentences that the devs have given us is really well, retarded.  You simply don't know what the thing is going to be like.  Just wait and see.  Personally, as a Roman history enthusiast, I am following both Roma Victor and also this game as well.  They both seem very different, and I will probably purchase both to try 'em out.  Which one will ultimately win?  Who knows.

    So relax.  The world isn't ending.  Guild Wars is a GREAT game as it requires no monthly subscription.  But you better believe if they will be requiring a monthly fee . . . well, lets put it this way, they better have their ducks in a row.

    Thanks

    AHS

  • Entreri28Entreri28 Member Posts: 589
    Any instancing is bad.  Instancing is used to cover up crappy programming and defeats the purpose of an MMOG.

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  • SephinSephin Member Posts: 13

    Instancing = dead MMORPG. I dont care the 'reason' for it. EQ had instancing and it killed the game, more than it was already dying. EQ2 has it and it ruined it. Instances turn any worth an MMORPG has and newbifies it making it a steaming pile of refuse.

  • NeopaganNeopagan Member Posts: 34
    Get over it for God's sake - if you read the info the whole game isn't instanced just parts of it which is a GOOD thing!  It gets rid of the pre-pubescent annoyances, l33t boyz and most importantly of all the damn griefers if they pull this off it will be an amazing addition to the MMO world.

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  • Stickman101Stickman101 Member Posts: 34

    If you haven't visted the official site, there will be a month fee required. They will provide one month of free play.

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  • GrimSkunk2GrimSkunk2 Member Posts: 451


    Originally posted by giodee21
    The game is still in dev , and people have the nerve to complain about something they dont know. You sound like my wife . If I wasnt in love with her I would cancel immediately. Instances are not the end all if used appropriately. Prior to NGE on SWG instancing was sparse at best Vette is the only area I can remember may be a couple more , but it was nessasary for the group to accomplish the quest.
    Instancing for quest completion is a must . How would you like to be on the Last part of a 6 hour quest and have some immi swing by and steel your kill . Now you have to sit and wait for a respawn in some cases I have waited 3 hours for a respawn .
    Now do your homework research the game and its use of instances maybe you will be surprised how it takes place.


    If people listened to you and did not voice their concerns BEFORE release, people would be stuck with things they do not want/like. If I want to complain about instances, I will. If the official word is there are instances on a game I think has great potential, I will voice my concerns and/or inform others should they not be aware of that. This is a comercial venture: I'd say people should have nerve enough to voice what they want or don't want- it is the company who should not have the nerve to ignore its player base.

    If you have a problem with kill stealers- stop playing MMOs. If you have a problem with your wife complaining too much, try talking to her or seek counciling.

    -W.

  • arvainisarvainis Member Posts: 548
    Well there's a big difference between voicing you opinion when you know what your talking about and voicing your opinion when you do not have all the facts.

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  • CaedesAstrumCaedesAstrum Member Posts: 83
    yeah as long as we are voicing our opinions for perpetual to take into account while planning this business venture i would like to add something, INSTANCES USED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COMPLETE CONTENT IN A TIMELY MANNER(some of us dont have 6-8 hours a day to play) WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM IDIOTS THAT HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN SNEAK IN AND TAG THE SPAWN ARE GOING TO HELP GUARANTEE THAT YOU GET MY MONTHLY FEE, thanks, that is all, and i dont mean instancing in the GW meaning, more along the eq2 or wow lines.
  • GrimSkunk2GrimSkunk2 Member Posts: 451


    Originally posted by CaedesAstrum
    yeah as long as we are voicing our opinions for perpetual to take into account while planning this business venture i would like to add something, INSTANCES USED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COMPLETE CONTENT IN A TIMELY MANNER(some of us dont have 6-8 hours a day to play) WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM IDIOTS THAT HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN SNEAK IN AND TAG THE SPAWN ARE GOING TO HELP GUARANTEE THAT YOU GET MY MONTHLY FEE, thanks, that is all, and i dont mean instancing in the GW meaning, more along the eq2 or wow lines.


    I agree. I think there are places for instanced zones, but 100% is too much.

    -W.

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