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Smed fesses Up , Not a Scifi MMO

JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642

http://www.vg247.com/2014/02/05/sony-online-entertainments-unannounced-mmo-isnt-sci-fi-smedley-starts-dropping-hints/

 But I truly do want to thank him for allow many to draw real attention to the Repopulation. The true heir apparent to the Sci-fi Sandbox MMO throne.

 

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  • KarteliKarteli Member CommonPosts: 2,646

    That's great, because what the industry really needs is another fantasy title.

     

    I commend all the boys (and gals) at SOE for having some quality think tank sessions!  Get a solution and call it a week!

     

    ps - say hi to George Costanza for me!  I know he works there.

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
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  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059

    Smedley, Smedley, Smedley .......

     

    /shakes head

     

    It seems looking deeper into the screen shot he posted on twitter was a pretty accurate account of the situation.

     

     

  • plat0nicplat0nic Member Posts: 301
    there isn't a post apocalyptic zombie mmo out there yet is there? 

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

    It seems like he's hinting at the post apocalyptic thing, but says it's not scifi, and not a Western.  So it's for SWG players, but it's not a space opera or space western and Star Wars was an operatic space Western.  I don't know.  I just hope his mention of "Revolution" doesn't mean it's going to be like the television show "Revolution".  Because that show is lame.

     

    Then again, a fairly realistic, post apocalyptic sandbox might be really cool.  It doesn't even need zombies.  They're getting kind of played out now anyway.

     

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  • reeereeereeereee Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Originally posted by Karteli

    That's great, because what the industry really needs is another fantasy title.

     

    I commend all the boys (and gals) at SOE for having some quality think tank sessions!  Get a solution and call it a week!

     

    ps - say hi to George Costanza for me!  I know he works there.

    Fantasy makes no sense with EQN coming out, why would they poach their own customers.  Modern setting makes far more sense for this proposed swg-ish game than fantasy.  If it was just going to be some random new sci-fi setting SOE cooked up in house rather than star wars I think I would rather see them go modern anyway, less ways to screw that up and there are plenty of sci-fi mmos in development.

  • GaendricGaendric Member UncommonPosts: 624

    I would like to see a well made big budget post apocalyptic MMO with sandbox features.

    Don't need zombies in it either, unless with an interesting twist.

     

  • kilunkilun Member UncommonPosts: 829
    Originally posted by JestorRodo

    http://www.vg247.com/2014/02/05/sony-online-entertainments-unannounced-mmo-isnt-sci-fi-smedley-starts-dropping-hints/

     But I truly do want to thank him for allow many to draw real attention to the Repopulation. The true heir apparent to the Sci-fi Sandbox MMO throne.

     

    How many worlds does the Repopulation have for me to explore?  Nuff' Said.

  • KarteliKarteli Member CommonPosts: 2,646
    Originally posted by reeereee
    Originally posted by Karteli

    That's great, because what the industry really needs is another fantasy title.

     

    I commend all the boys (and gals) at SOE for having some quality think tank sessions!  Get a solution and call it a week!

     

    ps - say hi to George Costanza for me!  I know he works there.

    Fantasy makes no sense with EQN coming out, why would they poach their own customers.  Modern setting makes far more sense for this proposed swg-ish game than fantasy.  If it was just going to be some random new sci-fi setting SOE cooked up in house rather than star wars I think I would rather see them go modern anyway, less ways to screw that up and there are plenty of sci-fi mmos in development.

    Oh, so perhaps a TSW clone?

     

    Others mentioned post apocalyptic, but I think Fallen Earth did that as a sandbox quite well already (and is still up).  FA has a great crafting system and infrastructure already.  If SOE is going up against that is might be an uphill battle.

     

    Going with current times, ala TSW, might be feasible .. sort of I guess.

     

    Neither are really a good home for a players used to a distant galaxy, long, long time ago.

     

    If SOE isn't going for Sci-Fi, I think they are shooting themselves in the leg early on (an excuse for not producing?).  Hit that bone, and now they will never deliver what they promised ...

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    It doesn't have to be a sci-fi to really be a SWG game. They may be avoiding it just to make a clear difference between star wars and what they did. The game play and crafting will matter more than the setting.
  • EcocesEcoces Member UncommonPosts: 879

    he answered some guy on twitter saying something about the TV show Revolution. i think thats a big hint on what the game will be like. it sounds like its going to be a post apocalyptic sort of game.

     

    which actually excites me even more than a PURE Sci Fi game.

  • GaendricGaendric Member UncommonPosts: 624
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    It doesn't have to be a sci-fi to really be a SWG game. They may be avoiding it just to make a clear difference between star wars and what they did. The game play and crafting will matter more than the setting.

    That's a good point, agreed.

     

  • SarothSaroth Member UncommonPosts: 4
    Originally posted by plat0nic
    there isn't a post apocalyptic zombie mmo out there yet is there? 
    The Secret World is post apocalyptic and chock full of Zombies...wasn't really my bag but worth checking out for sure.
     

     

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  • ZezdaZezda Member UncommonPosts: 686

    The fact he ruled out sci-fi because it doesn't have a big enough audience basically tells me that they're making the game for the wrong reason in the first place. My interest now = 0

  • reeereeereeereee Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by reeereee
    Originally posted by Karteli

    That's great, because what the industry really needs is another fantasy title.

     

    I commend all the boys (and gals) at SOE for having some quality think tank sessions!  Get a solution and call it a week!

     

    ps - say hi to George Costanza for me!  I know he works there.

    Fantasy makes no sense with EQN coming out, why would they poach their own customers.  Modern setting makes far more sense for this proposed swg-ish game than fantasy.  If it was just going to be some random new sci-fi setting SOE cooked up in house rather than star wars I think I would rather see them go modern anyway, less ways to screw that up and there are plenty of sci-fi mmos in development.

    Oh, so perhaps a TSW clone?

     

    Others mentioned post apocalyptic, but I think Fallen Earth did that as a sandbox quite well already (and is still up).  FA has a great crafting system and infrastructure already.  If SOE is going up against that is might be an uphill battle.

     

    Going with current times, ala TSW, might be feasible .. sort of I guess.

     

    Neither are really a good home for a players used to a distant galaxy, long, long time ago.

     

    If SOE isn't going for Sci-Fi, I think they are shooting themselves in the leg early on (an excuse for not producing?).  Hit that bone, and now they will never deliver what they promised ...

    Someone on this site once compared star wars elements to high fantasy and there was actually a fair amount in common, in terms of sci-fi star wars is a little non standard.

     

    Creating a compelling, interesting, non-ridiculous sci-fi IP with the depth required for an mmo out of whole cloth would be challenging for skilled authors much less whatever hacks SOE has on staff.  I'm really willing to give them a pass on this one.  Sure if it was done well it could be mind blowingly amazing... but you could also wind up with something based on slapstick comedy (I'm looking at you Wildstar.)

  • KarteliKarteli Member CommonPosts: 2,646
    Originally posted by reeereee
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by reeereee
    Originally posted by Karteli

    That's great, because what the industry really needs is another fantasy title.

     

    I commend all the boys (and gals) at SOE for having some quality think tank sessions!  Get a solution and call it a week!

     

    ps - say hi to George Costanza for me!  I know he works there.

    Fantasy makes no sense with EQN coming out, why would they poach their own customers.  Modern setting makes far more sense for this proposed swg-ish game than fantasy.  If it was just going to be some random new sci-fi setting SOE cooked up in house rather than star wars I think I would rather see them go modern anyway, less ways to screw that up and there are plenty of sci-fi mmos in development.

    Oh, so perhaps a TSW clone?

     

    Others mentioned post apocalyptic, but I think Fallen Earth did that as a sandbox quite well already (and is still up).  FA has a great crafting system and infrastructure already.  If SOE is going up against that is might be an uphill battle.

     

    Going with current times, ala TSW, might be feasible .. sort of I guess.

     

    Neither are really a good home for a players used to a distant galaxy, long, long time ago.

     

    If SOE isn't going for Sci-Fi, I think they are shooting themselves in the leg early on (an excuse for not producing?).  Hit that bone, and now they will never deliver what they promised ...

    Someone on this site once compared star wars elements to high fantasy and there was actually a fair amount in common, in terms of sci-fi star wars is a little non standard.

     

    Creating a compelling, interesting, non-ridiculous sci-fi IP with the depth required for an mmo out of whole cloth would be challenging for skilled authors much less whatever hacks SOE has on staff.  I'm really willing to give them a pass on this one.  Sure if it was done well it could be mind blowingly amazing... but you could also wind up with something based on slapstick comedy (I'm looking at you Wildstar.)

    The comparisons between high fantasy and Star Wars (SW) are valid.  SW operates on sci-fantasy, which would draw many identities.  The Force is essentially magic.  Imaginative races are abound!  Multiple factions (though 2 really count).  The real difference is technology - it's there in SW, but not in fantasy.

     

    While presented by Smedley, I still don't think this could be a "Home for SWG veterans".  The mechanics might be the same .. but there will be no Jedi's.  The SW universe was the home of SWG players, nothing short.

     

     

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Member UncommonPosts: 2,392

    Smedleys last addition to his resume was PlanetSide 2.

    SO why are some hovering over every crumblet this guy tosses on the ground ?

     

  • Blazer6992Blazer6992 Member UncommonPosts: 643

    I could of told you that it wasn't a space MMO. What bothers me is why is everyone thinking that it's a MMO at all.

     

  • faidedfaided Member UncommonPosts: 111
    Um... Why would the SWG successor be a Sci-Fi MMO?  SWG was a Fantasy MMO there was Magic (The Force) Swords (Vibro and Light) as well as Dragons.  So how is that Sci-Fi?  That is Fantasy.
  • reeereeereeereee Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by reeereee
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by reeereee
    Originally posted by Karteli

    That's great, because what the industry really needs is another fantasy title.

     

    I commend all the boys (and gals) at SOE for having some quality think tank sessions!  Get a solution and call it a week!

     

    ps - say hi to George Costanza for me!  I know he works there.

    Fantasy makes no sense with EQN coming out, why would they poach their own customers.  Modern setting makes far more sense for this proposed swg-ish game than fantasy.  If it was just going to be some random new sci-fi setting SOE cooked up in house rather than star wars I think I would rather see them go modern anyway, less ways to screw that up and there are plenty of sci-fi mmos in development.

    Oh, so perhaps a TSW clone?

     

    Others mentioned post apocalyptic, but I think Fallen Earth did that as a sandbox quite well already (and is still up).  FA has a great crafting system and infrastructure already.  If SOE is going up against that is might be an uphill battle.

     

    Going with current times, ala TSW, might be feasible .. sort of I guess.

     

    Neither are really a good home for a players used to a distant galaxy, long, long time ago.

     

    If SOE isn't going for Sci-Fi, I think they are shooting themselves in the leg early on (an excuse for not producing?).  Hit that bone, and now they will never deliver what they promised ...

    Someone on this site once compared star wars elements to high fantasy and there was actually a fair amount in common, in terms of sci-fi star wars is a little non standard.

     

    Creating a compelling, interesting, non-ridiculous sci-fi IP with the depth required for an mmo out of whole cloth would be challenging for skilled authors much less whatever hacks SOE has on staff.  I'm really willing to give them a pass on this one.  Sure if it was done well it could be mind blowingly amazing... but you could also wind up with something based on slapstick comedy (I'm looking at you Wildstar.)

    The comparisons between high fantasy and Star Wars (SW) are valid.  SW operates on sci-fantasy, which would draw many identities.  The Force is essentially magic.  Imaginative races are abound!  Multiple factions (though 2 really count).  The real difference is technology - it's there in SW, but not in fantasy.

     

    While presented by Smedley, I still don't think this could be a "Home for SWG veterans".  The mechanics might be the same .. but there will be no Jedi's.  The SW universe was the home of SWG players, nothing short.

    Oh, I guess I never though there was a chance of it actually being star wars.  I didn't think Disney could sell it with swtor up, and even if they could sell it I didn't think SOE would be willing to pay what Disney would charge.

  • faidedfaided Member UncommonPosts: 111
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by faided
    Um... Why would the SWG successor be a Sci-Fi MMO?  SWG was a Fantasy MMO there was Magic (The Force) Swords (Vibro and Light) as well as Dragons.  So how is that Sci-Fi?  That is Fantasy.

    The qualities that made SWG interesting and nearly unique have nothing to do with its setting and everything to do with game mechanics and design. Those things could be put into almost any setting.

    I know.  I played it many many years ago now.  The OP links and Article though in which the title speaks on the new game not being Sci-Fi.  That's why I am confused as to how this is even noteworthy.  This due to what I posted previously which was that SWG was not a Sfi-Fi MMO in the first place.  So why would it matter if the "successor" was not either?  

  • LoverNoFighterLoverNoFighter Member Posts: 294
    Originally posted by faided
    Um... Why would the SWG successor be a Sci-Fi MMO?  SWG was a Fantasy MMO there was Magic (The Force) Swords (Vibro and Light) as well as Dragons.  So how is that Sci-Fi?  That is Fantasy.

     Starships.

     

  • JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642
    Originally posted by kilun
    Originally posted by JestorRodo

    http://www.vg247.com/2014/02/05/sony-online-entertainments-unannounced-mmo-isnt-sci-fi-smedley-starts-dropping-hints/

     But I truly do want to thank him for allow many to draw real attention to the Repopulation. The true heir apparent to the Sci-fi Sandbox MMO throne.

     

    How many worlds does the Repopulation have for me to explore?  Nuff' Said.

    How many worlds of a sci-fi sandbox MMO are you currently exploring ( save for an EMU)...Nuff said.

     

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  • MadimorgaMadimorga Member UncommonPosts: 1,920

    Surely they wouldn't be fool enough to actually do a Revolution tie-in.  They had to have learned something from Trion's mistake.  And Revolution is even more of a boring stinker than Defiance.  Which is saying something.

     

     

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  • BossalinieBossalinie Member UncommonPosts: 724
    Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
    Originally posted by faided
    Um... Why would the SWG successor be a Sci-Fi MMO?  SWG was a Fantasy MMO there was Magic (The Force) Swords (Vibro and Light) as well as Dragons.  So how is that Sci-Fi?  That is Fantasy.

     Starships.

     

    The minute Star Wars presented the idea of altering substances with your mind, it stopped being about science, no matter the environment. That fantasy, holmes...

    At best...SW is Science Fantasy.

    I will give you this...prior to the arrival of force powers in SWG, it passed the Sci-Fi test...

  • JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642

    I truly think that my old buddy, John noticed the very successful fund raising achievement of  The Repopulation and wanted to throw a smoke bomb of "look at me, Come home little sheba "  Jedi mind trick on those foolish enough to look his way.

     

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