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The Matrix Online: Underrated

I have been in The Matrix Online since day one. I have seen many things, I have probably acomplished more then most players as well. I have also read many degrading reviews about this game. At first, this was just at shock to me for I enjoy the game greatly. Then, I looked into some of these usernames more thoroughly: The majority (90%) of the people who didn't like the game had not even attained the 15th level.

Let me put it into the terms that there are 50 levels. You get a new Skill Tree Title at 3,5,15,30, and 50.  The first 15 levels are probably the most tedious and annoying. For the main reason being you are just not used to the game yet. So people say they wasted their money on buying a worthless game when in reality they paid good money for a good game. The combat is nothing compared to other games, it has an interesting way of everything is able to kill anyone if you know how.

People complain about the unbalance in skill trees. There is no unbalance. The hacker tree is the most complained about for it's, "Cheapness, noobishness, and it takes away the fun". First off: It's a skill tree in the game, it's not cheap or noobish, it could only take away the fun in your opinion. Second, the tree isn't that hard to defeat, if you know how. If you don't, then well, of course you're going to get aggravated, but once you learn how to take a hacker tree character down, you're in the clear.

There have also been complaints about the GameMasters, Developers, CSRs, etc. The Matrix Online is probably the best game I have played when it comes to support. For a few reasons: 1. Fast responses to your problems..Sure, there are occasions where the CSR team isn't that fast, but think about it, you're trying to handle /ccrs from people from all different servers in a timely fashion. Not that easy. 2. The Developers actually play the game with you to make the game more involved and exciting. What other game does that? What other game actually has developers coming in as characters from the movies and greets certain players who have accomplished so much.

In conclusion, the game in my opinion is great, just underrated by those who are just in simple terms:

A newbie.

-Dezreki: Level 50 Commander of the Holy Warriors of Zion on the Recursion Server

[email protected]

"Peace is a lie, there is only Passion"
"Through passion I gain Strength"
"Through strength I gain Power"
"Through power I gain Victory"
"Through victory my chains are broken"

The Code of the Sith.

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  • BleehBleeh Member Posts: 116

    I made it to 22 on Recursion and 17 on Vector and I saw no point in continuing to level 50 when I cancelled months ago. If people don't like the game, why continue to subscribe and play?

    Some of the attitude I sense here is a reason why I left: hostility towards newbs. I've learned there's been a bad attitude towards them since beta and it continues. Given all the drama from the $OE takeover, thier impending CU, and other issues; driving away newbs isn't smart. Half the time when somebody asks a simple question on the forums, they get a smart-assed remark about searching instead of a real answer. There's even talk of newbs getting harangued because they want to join a faction (MxO's version of a guild) and start leveling, especially on Vector (thier one PvP server).

    The Hacker class drama is another good example of this. If you chose hacker, as I did, then you're automatically a n00b and a target. There was even talk of eliminating the Hacker skill tree altogether, which is over 1/3 of the total abilities and has all the healing and buffing abilities, because it wasn't "Matrixy" enough. I'll admit the hacker tree is a bit overpowered, but I agree with your statements that it isn't cheap nor do you become invincible. It's a feature there for all to use. Yet when you use it, a vocal percentage whishes to alienate you and make you feel unwelcome because the feature doesn't fit in their version of the game.

    After adventures like that I got the hint and stopped giving them $15/month. I'm not saying newcomers should be made to feel like they're better then everyone else. However, with all the talk on how MxO has the best community and everyone's mature, I have to point out that was definitely not my experience.

    Guild Wars is still an MMO.

  • SithLordSithLord Member Posts: 2

    First off: I will say I am completely shocked that you suffered n00b comments in-game. I use them outside the game to reinforce my points at times. As for the hacker tree....meh, screw it lol, not worth it anymore. 

    You said you reached 22 on Recursion? Well, if you were lookin to escape from noob comments. The HOly Warriors of Zion was, and well, still is, a dedicated newbie-helping faction. As far as the alienation of the hackers. Well, on the combat field, hackers are usually the first ones to get shot at for they have the most power, and well, it makes sense, they control the code of the matrix.

    However, were you ever part of a live event in game? That's usually the high points of the game, along with good factions.

    "Peace is a lie, there is only Passion"
    "Through passion I gain Strength"
    "Through strength I gain Power"
    "Through power I gain Victory"
    "Through victory my chains are broken"

    The Code of the Sith.

  • I left the game because I wan't having fun and didn't like the way you were forced to run those boring missions (even though I loved the movies). But anti-noob attitudes were very prevelent when I played. But then they are in every game these days.
  • ShijukiShijuki Member UncommonPosts: 318

    MxO will face the same fate as SWG, it's just a matter of time.

  • gamerman98gamerman98 Member UncommonPosts: 809
    im only at lvl 7 (last time i checked) and i have no problems with the game. sure the missions do tend to get boring a bit and hard when ur alone but its still fun.
  • freiheitfreiheit Member Posts: 264
    MXO is a good game but continued setbacks are killing the population on the servers. If you got an account now you'd probably have a great time and hopefulyl get new content ina couple months when you run out of new things to do. Those of us who have been there for a while and stuck around through the changes haven't seen much of anything for a long time, it's sad because the game has so much potential.
  • BleehBleeh Member Posts: 116


    Originally posted by SithLord
    First off: I will say I am completely shocked that you suffered n00b comments in-game. I use them outside the game to reinforce my points at times. As for the hacker tree....meh, screw it lol, not worth it anymore. 
    You said you reached 22 on Recursion? Well, if you were lookin to escape from noob comments. The HOly Warriors of Zion was, and well, still is, a dedicated newbie-helping faction. As far as the alienation of the hackers. Well, on the combat field, hackers are usually the first ones to get shot at for they have the most power, and well, it makes sense, they control the code of the matrix.
    However, were you ever part of a live event in game? That's usually the high points of the game, along with good factions.

    You, sir, are an example of the few good people I've meet in this game. That post reeks of an inclusive attitude instead of an exclusive one. If the people on Monolith's old public board would've realized this when the game was released it might've done better. MxO had some good things going for it, but man, some of the attitudes I encountered there and in-game pretty much killed it for me.

    Guild Wars is still an MMO.

  • darquenbladedarquenblade Member Posts: 1,015



    Originally posted by SithLord

    I have been in The Matrix Online since day one. I have seen many things, I have probably acomplished more then most players as well. I have also read many degrading reviews about this game. At first, this was just at shock to me for I enjoy the game greatly. Then, I looked into some of these usernames more thoroughly: The majority (90%) of the people who didn't like the game had not even attained the 15th level.
    Let me put it into the terms that there are 50 levels. You get a new Skill Tree Title at 3,5,15,30, and 50.  The first 15 levels are probably the most tedious and annoying. For the main reason being you are just not used to the game yet. So people say they wasted their money on buying a worthless game when in reality they paid good money for a good game. The combat is nothing compared to other games, it has an interesting way of everything is able to kill anyone if you know how.
    People complain about the unbalance in skill trees. There is no unbalance. The hacker tree is the most complained about for it's, "Cheapness, noobishness, and it takes away the fun". First off: It's a skill tree in the game, it's not cheap or noobish, it could only take away the fun in your opinion. Second, the tree isn't that hard to defeat, if you know how. If you don't, then well, of course you're going to get aggravated, but once you learn how to take a hacker tree character down, you're in the clear.
    There have also been complaints about the GameMasters, Developers, CSRs, etc. The Matrix Online is probably the best game I have played when it comes to support. For a few reasons: 1. Fast responses to your problems..Sure, there are occasions where the CSR team isn't that fast, but think about it, you're trying to handle /ccrs from people from all different servers in a timely fashion. Not that easy. 2. The Developers actually play the game with you to make the game more involved and exciting. What other game does that? What other game actually has developers coming in as characters from the movies and greets certain players who have accomplished so much.
    In conclusion, the game in my opinion is great, just underrated by those who are just in simple terms:
    A newbie.
    -Dezreki: Level 50 Commander of the Holy Warriors of Zion on the Recursion Server
    [email protected]



    About your comment that the majority of haters were low level: This observation has some merit, but a game nowadays that forces you to play for dozens of hours before the game gets fun is considered an atiquated design concept. If you're paying a sub for a game, you should be enjoying it from the get-go, not motivating yourself through the boredom by saying "It'll get better at level XX".

    That being said, the only thing I didn't like about MxO were the bland missions. Bleh.

  • gamerman98gamerman98 Member UncommonPosts: 809
    ya i agree about the bland missions, this game was supposed to continue the story not just go and do whatever for whoever. The story was based around Neo and his efforts to make peace and stop Zion from falling they should atleast have missions based on that same principal. Im sure alot of ppl started playing with the hopes and dreams that they would find a way to bring him back considering that hes not truly dead. I like the game just felt a little ripped off that they killed off most of the good characters and events too quickly.
  • LanmoragonLanmoragon Member Posts: 994

    So under 40,000 in box sales for a product from one of the most recognizable franchises doesnt tell you anything? Or that its parent company ditched it in an effort to not lose more money? Or the fact that it was only a few months after release that they combined all servers into 3 main servers due to lack of population?

    Most people, like me (though I reached level 17) didnt reach level 15 simply because IT WAS THE MOST BORING GAME. It was sort of like CoH, but there was absolutely no variation in mission type. I honestly can say that I saw at most 3 random mission maps. Thats why MxO failed.

    Im not saying that the OP cant like the game, but its definitely not underrated to the majority of those who tried it, as seen by facts.

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    I got to lvl 50 in 8 days of street grinding.

    I had explored the entire world after 6 days. I spent the last 2 days on the a park bench looking at pidgeons and chatting up girls. On day 11 i gave in and uninstalled it.

     

    The missions are the worst I have ever seen.  Dynamicly genrated to be endlessly identical.

    The plot progession is meaningless as you can respec at anytime, never having to make a decision that will define your future. Instead of becoming someone, he maintains the option to be anyone. The anonymity has no depth. 

     

    Clan and team tools were not very good. The auction Faulty. 7/8 Items could only be used by females. Character customisation was minimal. Finding a team was much harder than any other mmo.

    There were numerous gamekilling bugs, and it became quickly clear that the devs had no idea how to fix them.

    Support was dire. (The worst in any mmo i have played to date by a long long way). They don't even have Local servers in Europe. (And it does lag). Tech support didn't have the answers. The forums were helpful, but are now censored Sony forums. The game was/is incompatable with 60% of UK ISPs. (60%!)

    Because the programmers were too inept to program in any content, they instead promised to personally show up once a month and roleplay with us. Utterly pitiful. (Especially as they only turn up for 20 minutes and only in U.S. hours (5 am UK time). I tried a couple. Am on screen text message seemed to be about the sum total of it.

    Graphics are average and glitchy. Tripping over invisible blocks in the road. Top of my head disappearing. Looking through tears in the walls. Unkillable enemies glitched upright EVERY fight. All the enemies essentially look the same. In chinatown you fight either a girl in red dress or a girl in a yellow dress. In the slums she wears a t-shirt. There is not a single part of this game that I found visually stunning. No "wow" factor. Captain Bland explores Blandworld where nothing is notable and nothing intresting ever occours.

    Half the other people you see are just sitting AFK on a park bench waiting for the world to end.

     

    There is no polish to this game. I at no point felt I had received value for money from this package.

    I wanted to like this game, I really did. It's non-fantasy theme really attracted me.

     

    It has it's little pluses, AIM messenger to people in game so you can chat without actually having to login and play the dire game. Interactive Emotes are the most fun I have ever seen. Combat style of guns and kung fu moves is simple but engaging. The Matrix theme is successful, Agent's have you running away, town looks grimy clothes look ragedy.

    As with every other game I've ever played the community was full of nice people. Although I don't know anyone who resuscribed or even played it for the full month.

     

     

     

     

    I prefer Runecape to this game. It is better made, more fun, has more depth, more player, more future. In fact I prefer Minesweeper to this game. No one in their right mind should give this game the time of day.

    Try it if you have a station pass AND you have already watched all three Matrix films 17 times read all the books and can recite the dialogues from the comic books by rote. Actual no, I don't mean that. Don't bother trying this.

    Wouldn't it be sad if a gamer new to PC games or new to MMO's played Matrix and actually thought it was a really amazing game? Imagine them enjoying it so much that they never tried another. Imagine the same person raised on catfood, never knowing the taste of roast beef or pate.

     

    While my imagination is still feeling active, can you imagine any of the Matrix Online programmers still working in the video games industry?

    I can't.

  • ps_manps_man Member Posts: 107

    I think its a very enjoyable game!

    can get a bit repetive but the creatores will get that fixed eventualy!

    but the combat is omg its brilliant combat mode brilliant suroundings the only thing i disagree with this game is!

    It is way to expensive! 14.99 a month for a game is a bit to much ! i play alot of rugby so i dont get my months worth from this game ! i will carry on playing but i rilly advise soe to lower the price and get some new payment options  up and going ! I love this game but the price needs to decress! and i agree with the maker of this post it defonatly is under rated its an awsum game!

  • BloodWorkBloodWork Member Posts: 139



    Originally posted by jeddak
    I left the game because I wan't having fun and didn't like the way you were forced to run those boring missions (even though I loved the movies). But anti-noob attitudes were very prevelent when I played. But then they are in every game these days.


    first off, there are people that like and this and won't like it. It depends if it's your type of game. I hate fantasys so yeah. I just like to say if you get bored of the missions then stop doing the damn same assassin missions over and over and do some contact missions that have a story line behind it or get a team to go to the construct with you and farm some of the best items in the game.
  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Firstly, the creators won't fix anything.

    They were sacked about a year before release. (Couldn't you tell?)

    The game is currently on it's, at best, second support team (and third development company). They didn't write the code. There isn't very many of them and they work on more than 1 game. They are however, unlike the first two teams, from a company with a track record of producing functional MMO's.

    Don't be waiting for any substantial aditional development. If any development at all. No expansion packs coming no more input at all. I think you will be lucky if 1 representative of the company makes a character called "Neo" and plays him online for a night once every 6 months. That was the best the previous developers could come up with after a year of programming and there was loads of them.

    I know it's depressing but this game was stillborn, It had died long before release.

     

     

    Contact missions may have a storyline (a line or two of text) but the gameplay is identical and it uses the exact same dynamic mission generator used for every other mission. So you are still playing 1 of the same 5 old, "escort", "assasinate", "retrieve data", "poke you own eyes out" or "slash your wrists and lie in a warm bath" missions. 

    I can make my own storyline. Changing 5 lines of text before I click accept does not constitute variety.

     

  • doomicondoomicon Member Posts: 29

    This is mah third (maybe fouth?)MMO, and I have been playing since Aug 05' right after the server merge and SOE takeover.

    This is the best MMO community that I have experienced.  I play on the Syntax server.  Just goto the forums and view "RedPill Rescue" and "General" to get a view of the community.

    I love the environment, and the setting.  I Love the graphics, and the gritty feel of the slums (a big improvement over AO).  I like the combat system, needs some work (new system in the works, see below).

    SOE has been doing a good job of bugfixes.  This game was seriously bug ridden, and I can't believe it was released in current state.  SOE has been working OT to fix bugs inherited from Monolith, which has the unfortunate side effect of new content taking a backseat.  One the things that was done, was a district reflow.. won't get into details but it was much needed for new players! 

    Combat Upgrade is in the works, the QA server will be open to players this week or next!  Unlike SWG, players asked for the upgrade :-)

    Live Events, it's cool having Live Events and/or cool movie chars showing up and now and again to various functions.  This however is infrequent, due to bug fixing by devs (see above).  Secondly, Monolith had a dedicated Live Event Team, that team doesn't exist, however there is a LESIG, which is basically a player group that was formed by SOE, that really helps keep the Dev's in touch with the player base, for Live Event appearances.

    Downside, leveling is a grind... all MMO's imho are a grind, but with MxO it's front and center.  You have PvP, but there really isn't a "reason" for it.  There are no benefits for winning, there are no implementations for "faction" wars, or raids.  MxO does alot of things pretty good, but nothing Great!

    What keeps people playing? Community.  Roleplay(RP) is pretty darned good and Player Events(PE).  Again just jaunt over the the forums and check out the "Events".  Players and Factions do a pretty good job of organizing events, as well as RP storylines.  Most people who play will say the same thing, faction mates, and community keep them going.

    I can agree with some of the negatives posted, from individual perspectives... but bad community?  That one I can't see.  I feel fortunate now that I must've joined at the right time.  If I had any of the experiences that were previously mentioned, I don't think I would still be playing.

     

    Just mah $0.02

  • dogge88dogge88 Member Posts: 1

    Well i love the game im lvl 50 on the mean streets of vector and yeah we can be ass holes over on vector we start killing ya as soon as you hit 16 and a lot of ppl feel the need to talk trash all the time to everyone its just the way a "hostle" server goes im not sure what they can do to n00bs over on recerson but i love the mxo comunity and the vector comunity even more

    Punting zion sence closed beta

    (Vanin - Viral Vendetta)

  • ghettochildeghettochilde Member Posts: 50

    Oh, I feel really, really bad for you.

     

    Trust me, a Combat Upgrade may sound like a good thing, but it isnt.  If you like the game now, the combat upgrade will not make it any better.  It will only take the things you like most about the game and throw them out the window. 

    I left MxO as soon as I heard that SOE was taking over;  as a long time SWG player, i knew what they were all about, and knew that any chance the game had of being good (i was *somewhat* optimistic before, as I really liked the skill system) was now gone.

    When the MxO CU finally hits, I'll try real hard not to say I told you so...

  • Stickman101Stickman101 Member Posts: 34
    I think the only thing that could help this game is the monthly fee going down or totally strippedimage
  • jackman11118jackman11118 Member Posts: 399



    Originally posted by ghettochilde

    Oh, I feel really, really bad for you.
     
    Trust me, a Combat Upgrade may sound like a good thing, but it isnt.  If you like the game now, the combat upgrade will not make it any better.  It will only take the things you like most about the game and throw them out the window. 
    I left MxO as soon as I heard that SOE was taking over;  as a long time SWG player, i knew what they were all about, and knew that any chance the game had of being good (i was *somewhat* optimistic before, as I really liked the skill system) was now gone.
    When the MxO CU finally hits, I'll try real hard not to say I told you so...



    too bad there isnt ANYTHING you like about the combat system, unlike SWG's. MXO's combat system is so bad from a pvp perspective that you just want to throw down your headset and scream. the pvp is so bad and boring right now that any form of combat upgrade will help.

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  • PhifePhife Member Posts: 229



    Originally posted by Bleeh
    Some of the attitude I sense here is a reason why I left: hostility towards newbs.



    Hostility to new players is the most fuck-tard thing you can do.  Why?  The king isn't king without peasants.  1337 players need noobs so they can be 1337.

    The smart king knows he's superior to the peasants, but he never lets them know that!

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  • KrazenKrazen Member UncommonPosts: 10

    Overall thing didnt clicked as thedevs wanted it to be.

  • pepcfreakpepcfreak Member UncommonPosts: 106

    I played this game all threw beta threw launch and as soon as i heard soe was buying it i left! SOE = death to all mmorpgs for me. Also This game did rock and was hard core the first 6 moths it was out with all the live events and the live event team "LET". The LET were great know their characters well knew how to play the game and were down right nasty in RP. Now that soe has had it and even since the announcement of its launch with SOE it has gone straight down hill and has become a huge PVP only game. If you want pvp only go play CS or Guns online. Till the live events start rolling out like they used to ill never come back.

    Also there is a new combat revision coming out. As we all know sony SUCKS at combat revisions so stay away STAY FAR AWAY!

  • ZenNatureZenNature Member CommonPosts: 354

    "The first 15 levels are probably the most tedious and annoying."

    I played it long enough to definitely agree with you here, but this is as strong a testament to how bad the game is as I could ever ask for. The first 15 levels especially MUST be entertaining enough to capture people, seeing as how that's the one 'first impression' a mmorpg gets. If a company can't even do that, I'm not going to question how great the game might end up if I torture myself through those levels just to find out. Call me crazy, but I much rather have a mmorpg that feels tedious after months of fun then choose a game that is tedious from the beginning with no guarantee I'll think any differently after investing my time in it.

  • l3vityl3vity Member Posts: 2

    Well, after 38 days of playtime playing MXO, i just can say that I love it. Time has come to an end though and I have just cancelled my account. But the game is still good and with my little knowledge on MMORPG, I have to say that its one of the "fastest" games out there. Wonderful grapgics and wonderful movement techinques. That just blew me away when I first played it.

    I hit lvl 50 after 15 days of gameplaying, but it was totally cause of the community that I hanged in there. MXO is full of friendly players that made me stay home from parties and nice weekends with my family, just to hang out with my MXO-firends in-game. Even if the game itself grew more boring after a while, i still loved the community. That was what made MXO such a great ride!
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  • DemonChildDemonChild Member CommonPosts: 13


    Originally posted by l3vity
    Well, after 38 days of playtime playing MXO, i just can say that I love it. Time has come to an end though and I have just cancelled my account. But the game is still good and with my little knowledge on MMORPG, I have to say that its one of the "fastest" games out there. Wonderful grapgics and wonderful movement techinques. That just blew me away when I first played it. I hit lvl 50 after 15 days of gameplaying, but it was totally cause of the community that I hanged in there. MXO is full of friendly players that made me stay home from parties and nice weekends with my family, just to hang out with my MXO-firends in-game. Even if the game itself grew more boring after a while, i still loved the community. That was what made MXO such a great ride!
    ::::20::

    Same here, man. Same here.

    This is my opinion only, but, I believe that which ever organization you have asperations to persure, that that really determines wether or not you do well in the game. A Zion myself, I went to lvl 15 in 2 days just because a generous and awesome faction, Devils Army, found me wondering the streets aimlessly. Since there are soooo many Zionist in MxO, its more likely you are gunna find a faction more quickly then if you were choosing to go Mero or Machine. No disrespect to the Meros and Machines, but most of them are the ones that abosutley dispise newbs. Ive seen a few even kick them off their faction and beat their asses into the ground in one hit! I mean come on, if you're a lvl 50 Mero looking to pick on little lvl 3 newbs, go play a different game. Thats disgusting. No joke. Once I hit lvl 50, I put the ones that picked on me earlier in the game back in their place. Never messed with me again.

    What Im saying is that if you wanna invest time in a huge gamespace, then do it. This is the place to do it all. No question about it.

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