So there continue to be these post about how ps4 graphics are better then Xbox one. According to experts this is not the case, the differences are so minimal 99.9% won't notice. Plus those who just worry about graphics well they will be playing their PC not a console.
So here is the list of why Xbox one beats ps4. Xbox one is clearly the total package.
disclaimer: author uses Vgchartz.com for source data
I personally don't like Vgchartz, it's guesstimation more than anything else
Yep I posted a link that said the same thing. My link also mentioned that xb1 has outsold ps4 here in the US. In no way am I saying this mean one is better then the other. The point was to show how off each fanboi group was. From what I saw the ps4 crew were a lot more dedicated at attempting and hoping xb1 failed. Like I said though the only thing that failed were both ps and Xbox fanbois .
Originally posted by iridescence Question is, who cares since my PC will be far superior to both of them? If you really wanted the best gaming platform out there you'd buy a PC.
Originally posted by olepi The NSA is monitoring Xbox communications, and with a microphone and camera in your living room ....
Well you better stop doing the following:
Stop searching the internet
Stop playing online video games
Stop using your cell phone
Stop using your home phone
Stay out of public areas.
its been know that the NSA also watched those areas also you better go inform those people also.
Just a joke about how some use such ignorance when they are trying to bash something.
Just be careful what you say and do in your own living room.
Haha thanks for the advice but as with searching the internet, talking on the phone, playing an online video game, walking down the street and playing the xb1 I never worry about the gov't watching. I guess I never got into conspiracy theory much and don't live my life in fear thinking omg they are watching me!!
disclaimer: author uses Vgchartz.com for source data
I personally don't like Vgchartz, it's guesstimation more than anything else
Yep I posted a link that said the same thing. My link also mentioned that xb1 has outsold ps4 here in the US. In no way am I saying this mean one is better then the other. The point was to show how off each fanboi group was. From what I saw the ps4 crew were a lot more dedicated at attempting and hoping xb1 failed. Like I said though the only thing that failed were both ps and Xbox fanbois .
Havent the games programmers came out and said they wont make two versions of games, one for each portal when they can make one game to run on the lowest tech console and just code it the copy different for each console?
I am sure this has been the whole point from the real experts. The minimal difference in the consoles will only be seen by the exclusives as they are being made for a specific console.
It will really come down to gamers preference. I am a huge MMO gamer, so if i buy one it will be the Xbox as i have been impressed with the likes of Halo and the obvious CODs. If inbetween me buying one i hear that the PS4 is releasing a few MMO's that can define it then i may choose to buy the PS4 instead.
Havent the games programmers came out and said they wont make two versions of games, one for each portal when they can make one game to run on the lowest tech console and just code it the copy different for each console?I am sure this has been the whole point from the real experts. The minimal difference in the consoles will only be seen by the exclusives as they are being made for a specific console.It will really come down to gamers preference. I am a huge MMO gamer, so if i buy one it will be the Xbox as i have been impressed with the likes of Halo and the obvious CODs. If inbetween me buying one i hear that the PS4 is releasing a few MMO's that can define it then i may choose to buy the PS4 instead.
Unfortunately you are wrong. The cell tech of ps3 is annoying, yet they are still pumping games out, both indie and big studio.
By far, the ps3 is/was the best Console to ever come out, u till this new batch.
Well it's clear what you are and it's so sad the xbox one didn't fail like you so truly hoped for. Guess it's time for you to move on I understand facts got you all worked up this morning.
The link? Techland?!? LOL...
Well it's clear what you are and who said I hoped for it to fail? Try reading the start of my post. People who feel the need to be a victim all the time are worthy of nothing more than pity.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Havent the games programmers came out and said they wont make two versions of games, one for each portal when they can make one game to run on the lowest tech console and just code it the copy different for each console?
I am sure this has been the whole point from the real experts. The minimal difference in the consoles will only be seen by the exclusives as they are being made for a specific console.
It will really come down to gamers preference. I am a huge MMO gamer, so if i buy one it will be the Xbox as i have been impressed with the likes of Halo and the obvious CODs. If inbetween me buying one i hear that the PS4 is releasing a few MMO's that can define it then i may choose to buy the PS4 instead.
Unfortunately you are wrong. The cell tech of ps3 is annoying, yet they are still pumping games out, both indie and big studio. By far, the ps3 is/was the best Console to ever come out, u till this new batch.
I stand corrected. Not much of a techie here.
Maybe i need to look into it a bit more. i admit i have only really looked at the main and commercial review/previews.
As an MMO gamer though, which console do people think we will be most catered for?
Originally posted by iridescence Question is, who cares since my PC will be far superior to both of them? If you really wanted the best gaming platform out there you'd buy a PC.
This is the smartest guy on here.
These Two guys here are BOTH the smartest guys on here!
It will have more mmorpgs available to it than the xbox. You are posting on an mmorpg website and I am an mmorpg gamer. Yes I like my PC but when it breaks down a bit and throws a fit, it takes time to fix it and is not always affordable to do so. It will be nice to have that safety in a backup.
I am not going to pay $100 more for a console that has to upscale content to my $3000 TV. I bought an HD television to look at HD, not see some crappy up-converted version of a game that I can watch in it's native resolution.
That's the ONLY thing anyone should be talking about. I don't care if the Xbox One wipes my ass and makes me breakfast, I want it to play games.
i'm starting to think that Sony and Microsoft planned this. cause the arguments against Microsoft seem to be the same ones that were being used against the PS3 at launch "does too much I just want to play games"
Doesn't matter to me much. i'm a Sony fanboy. From my DSLR to my Consoles to my Editing software. Personally I think if someone went into my house they would think im sponsored by Sony or something
Because i can. I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out. Logic every gamers worst enemy.
Gonna wait until both have gone thru revisions. Did the same with PS3 and Xbox 360. I have both and to me, at least on the last generation, Xbox 360 has better multiplayer with more people, PS3 has better graphics and stability. PS3 bought back Christmas 2010, Christmas 2011 for the 360. As far as the games go, both have good exclusives, that's why I eventually got both, and I will do the same for the PS4 and Xbox1.
Originally posted by iridescence Question is, who cares since my PC will be far superior to both of them? If you really wanted the best gaming platform out there you'd buy a PC.
This is the smartest guy on here.
These Two guys here are BOTH the smartest guys on here!
Actually neither of them are very smart.
PC is only superior to consoles in graphics, and even then costs a PC costs 5x as much as a console to match the graphics.
Imo Consoles have a much more fun control scheme too, you could say 'just connect a controller to your PC' but many PC games don't have controller support.
Can I play Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, The Last of Us, Halo, Uncharted, Jak and Daxter, God of War etc on the PC? No.
Consoles have a much larger gaming catalogue, they're easier to use, and more people play consoles.
My point is, PC is not superior to consoles, and consoles aren't superior to PC. It's about taste and what you want/need.
My taste is that I like to have my PC and a console. I can afford both, so why wouldn't I get both?
Does that make me a bad gamer? Apprently so to the vocal minority of PC fanboys.
Originally posted by iridescence Question is, who cares since my PC will be far superior to both of them? If you really wanted the best gaming platform out there you'd buy a PC.
My kids...
Because their dady is not going to spend $2000 on a gaming PC for them...
PS4 rulez in our opinion, because of the controller. We been in 360 lands ever since we sold our Wii, but now the controller brings back all the great memmories about PS2.. And the size, and the interface, and the ...
Ps4 in our opinion...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Originally posted by iridescence Question is, who cares since my PC will be far superior to both of them? If you really wanted the best gaming platform out there you'd buy a PC.
This is the smartest guy on here.
These Two guys here are BOTH the smartest guys on here!
Actually neither of them are very smart.
PC is only superior to consoles in graphics, and even then costs a PC costs 5x as much as a console to match the graphics.
Imo Consoles have a much more fun control scheme too, you could say 'just connect a controller to your PC' but many PC games don't have controller support.
Can I play Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, The Last of Us, Halo, Uncharted, Jak and Daxter, God of War etc on the PC? No.
Consoles have a much larger gaming catalogue, they're easier to use, and more people play consoles.
My point is, PC is not superior to consoles, and consoles aren't superior to PC. It's about taste and what you want/need.
My taste is that I like to have my PC and a console. I can afford both, so why wouldn't I get both?
Does that make me a bad gamer? Apprently so to the vocal minority of PC fanboys.
if the 'next gen' consoles were only competing with high end PC's i'd probably agree with you, but that is really not the case. Even a mid range PC is capable of far better graphical resolution, and rather than the difference being 5x the cost, its actually less than 2x if it was just better than the xbone, maybe less than 3x if competing with the PS4 - yeah, the PS4 is vastly superior than the Xbone when it comes to games and graphical resolution, whichever way you look at it, 1920x 1080 is waaaay better than 1280 x 720 even if the 1280 x 720 is 'upscaled' tbh, that kind of resolution wasn't good enough 5 years ago, so its definitely not good enough for the next 'however many years' the Xbone is supposed to be around for. However, not everyone wants a PC, even a small desktop system takes up way more room than a console, although the console has to use a Tv.. so if people choose to get a PS4 i can sort of understand that, and at the end of the day, the PS4 actually has some decent MMO's heading its way, about the only ones heading Xbone's way is titanfall, which is also on the PC and not looking all that great either way. For the ps4 you have FFXIV, Planetside 2, along with the division and destiny, which will both have superior graphics than the versions that 'might' make it onto the Xbone
disclaimer: author uses Vgchartz.com for source data
I personally don't like Vgchartz, it's guesstimation more than anything else
The PS4 is selling out as fast as Sony can build them. Microsoft is getting some Xbox One sales from people who want a new console and can't find a PS4. Give it a few months and Microsoft will lose that category of sales back to Sony.
Havent the games programmers came out and said they wont make two versions of games, one for each portal when they can make one game to run on the lowest tech console and just code it the copy different for each console?
I am sure this has been the whole point from the real experts. The minimal difference in the consoles will only be seen by the exclusives as they are being made for a specific console.
It will really come down to gamers preference. I am a huge MMO gamer, so if i buy one it will be the Xbox as i have been impressed with the likes of Halo and the obvious CODs. If inbetween me buying one i hear that the PS4 is releasing a few MMO's that can define it then i may choose to buy the PS4 instead.
They'll release the same game for both consoles, but the PS4 will play it at higher frame rates and/or higher graphical settings. For example, maybe the PS4 runs a game at 60 frames per second while the Xbox One only delivers 40. Or the PS4 runs a game at 1920x1080, while the Xbox One needs to scale down to 1600x900 to keep other settings equivalent.
Who cares which console is better? It's like saying a hot dog is better then a burger. Some like hot dogs better, others like burgers better. Same goes for consoles, some like PS4 and some like Xbox 1, and being the cold blooded person that I am, I'll simply say that the SNES was the best console ever. PS1 is not far behind.
the only reason people will buy the xbone is due to halo......and thats like a year away. It is claimed that it will run on 60fps..i got a feeling that halo would look divine on ps4
Originally posted by killahh Originally posted by Telil Haventthe longe games programmers came out and said they wont make two versions of games, one for each portal when they can make one game to run on the lowest tech console and just code it the copy different for each console?I am sure this has been the whole point from the reI hate to say it againl experts. The minimal difference in the consoles will only be seen by the exclusives as they are being made for a specific console.It will really come down to gamers preference. I am a huge MMO gamer, so if i buy one it will be the Xbox as i have been impressed with the likes of Halo and the obvious CODs. If inbetween me buying one i hear that the PS4 is releasing a few MMO's that can define it then i may choose to buy the PS4 instead.
Unfortunately you are wrong. The cell tech of ps3 is annoying, yet they are still pumping games out, both indie and big studio. By far, the ps3 is/was the best Console to ever come out, u till this new batch.
I stand corrected. Not much of a techie here.
Maybe i need to look into it a bit more. i admit i have only really looked at the main and commercial review/previews.
As an MMO gamer though, which console do people think we will be most catered for?
Very hard to say, tbqh both platforms have a easier Dev tools, and I do admit I am a bit biased, but that's because I was a xbox guy that gave up and got the ps3, and loved it. But in the long run I'd have to give the nod to Sony, not only for having spec wise a better performing unit, but it has the potential, and while Microsoft is opening up dev tools to indie companies sony has been doing this for a number of years now and has a larger base. and as a final note, I hate to say it again, but if a company has to revise their policy to sell units only because of complaints, and not true desire to please the buying customer, again, it doesn't bode well.
Havent the games programmers came out and said they wont make two versions of games, one for each portal when they can make one game to run on the lowest tech console and just code it the copy different for each console?
I am sure this has been the whole point from the real experts. The minimal difference in the consoles will only be seen by the exclusives as they are being made for a specific console.
It will really come down to gamers preference. I am a huge MMO gamer, so if i buy one it will be the Xbox as i have been impressed with the likes of Halo and the obvious CODs. If inbetween me buying one i hear that the PS4 is releasing a few MMO's that can define it then i may choose to buy the PS4 instead.
They'll release the same game for both consoles, but the PS4 will play it at higher frame rates and/or higher graphical settings. For example, maybe the PS4 runs a game at 60 frames per second while the Xbox One only delivers 40. Or the PS4 runs a game at 1920x1080, while the Xbox One needs to scale down to 1600x900 to keep other settings equivalent.
the xb one upscales 1280x720 so yes there is a definite difference visually depending on what platform your playing the game on, this was more noticeable on BF4 where frame rates were low and resolution was noticeably lower on the xb one than on the ps4 etc. As for MMO's the only platform appart from the PC, that is going to benefit from MMO's is the PS4. This isnt so much due to the lack of GPU ability of the XB one, though of the consoles it is the least able, but more of a question of how MS handles online gaming in general. Destiny, the Division, Planetside 2, FFXIV;ARR, DCUO even, are heading to the PS4, and while Titan fall, Destiny and the Division are most likely going to be on the XB one, the difference in the gaming experience due to game resolution/frame rates will undoubtedly be as noticeable as it is in BF4, perhaps more so as by the time these games hit those platforms, they will be utilising the strengths (or lack of) of each platform.
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Yep I posted a link that said the same thing. My link also mentioned that xb1 has outsold ps4 here in the US. In no way am I saying this mean one is better then the other. The point was to show how off each fanboi group was. From what I saw the ps4 crew were a lot more dedicated at attempting and hoping xb1 failed. Like I said though the only thing that failed were both ps and Xbox fanbois .
http://techland.time.com/2013/12/12/numbers-game-xbox-one-outpaces-playstation-4-in-u-s-ps4-tops-in-overall-sales/
True story!
Haha thanks for the advice but as with searching the internet, talking on the phone, playing an online video game, walking down the street and playing the xb1 I never worry about the gov't watching. I guess I never got into conspiracy theory much and don't live my life in fear thinking omg they are watching me!!
Outpacing is not outselling. Meaning it's selling faster (or sold faster) but overall the PS4 is still leading. Not by much anyways.
VGChartz puts it at almost 200k more sold.
http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2013/USA/ (USA Hardware by Platform)
Havent the games programmers came out and said they wont make two versions of games, one for each portal when they can make one game to run on the lowest tech console and just code it the copy different for each console?
I am sure this has been the whole point from the real experts. The minimal difference in the consoles will only be seen by the exclusives as they are being made for a specific console.
It will really come down to gamers preference. I am a huge MMO gamer, so if i buy one it will be the Xbox as i have been impressed with the likes of Halo and the obvious CODs. If inbetween me buying one i hear that the PS4 is releasing a few MMO's that can define it then i may choose to buy the PS4 instead.
Unfortunately you are wrong.The cell tech of ps3 is annoying, yet they are still pumping games out, both indie and big studio.
By far, the ps3 is/was the best Console to ever come out, u till this new batch.
over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting...
The link? Techland?!? LOL...
Well it's clear what you are and who said I hoped for it to fail? Try reading the start of my post. People who feel the need to be a victim all the time are worthy of nothing more than pity.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
I stand corrected. Not much of a techie here.
Maybe i need to look into it a bit more. i admit i have only really looked at the main and commercial review/previews.
As an MMO gamer though, which console do people think we will be most catered for?
These Two guys here are BOTH the smartest guys on here!
Im going to buy a PS4 and I'll tell you why.
It will have more mmorpgs available to it than the xbox. You are posting on an mmorpg website and I am an mmorpg gamer. Yes I like my PC but when it breaks down a bit and throws a fit, it takes time to fix it and is not always affordable to do so. It will be nice to have that safety in a backup.
I am not going to pay $100 more for a console that has to upscale content to my $3000 TV. I bought an HD television to look at HD, not see some crappy up-converted version of a game that I can watch in it's native resolution.
That's the ONLY thing anyone should be talking about. I don't care if the Xbox One wipes my ass and makes me breakfast, I want it to play games.
i'm starting to think that Sony and Microsoft planned this. cause the arguments against Microsoft seem to be the same ones that were being used against the PS3 at launch "does too much I just want to play games"
Doesn't matter to me much. i'm a Sony fanboy. From my DSLR to my Consoles to my Editing software. Personally I think if someone went into my house they would think im sponsored by Sony or something
Because i can.
I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
Logic every gamers worst enemy.
Actually neither of them are very smart.
PC is only superior to consoles in graphics, and even then costs a PC costs 5x as much as a console to match the graphics.
Imo Consoles have a much more fun control scheme too, you could say 'just connect a controller to your PC' but many PC games don't have controller support.
Can I play Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, The Last of Us, Halo, Uncharted, Jak and Daxter, God of War etc on the PC? No.
Consoles have a much larger gaming catalogue, they're easier to use, and more people play consoles.
My point is, PC is not superior to consoles, and consoles aren't superior to PC. It's about taste and what you want/need.
My taste is that I like to have my PC and a console. I can afford both, so why wouldn't I get both?
Does that make me a bad gamer? Apprently so to the vocal minority of PC fanboys.
My kids...
Because their dady is not going to spend $2000 on a gaming PC for them...
PS4 rulez in our opinion, because of the controller. We been in 360 lands ever since we sold our Wii, but now the controller brings back all the great memmories about PS2.. And the size, and the interface, and the ...
Ps4 in our opinion...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
if the 'next gen' consoles were only competing with high end PC's i'd probably agree with you, but that is really not the case. Even a mid range PC is capable of far better graphical resolution, and rather than the difference being 5x the cost, its actually less than 2x if it was just better than the xbone, maybe less than 3x if competing with the PS4 - yeah, the PS4 is vastly superior than the Xbone when it comes to games and graphical resolution, whichever way you look at it, 1920x 1080 is waaaay better than 1280 x 720 even if the 1280 x 720 is 'upscaled' tbh, that kind of resolution wasn't good enough 5 years ago, so its definitely not good enough for the next 'however many years' the Xbone is supposed to be around for. However, not everyone wants a PC, even a small desktop system takes up way more room than a console, although the console has to use a Tv.. so if people choose to get a PS4 i can sort of understand that, and at the end of the day, the PS4 actually has some decent MMO's heading its way, about the only ones heading Xbone's way is titanfall, which is also on the PC and not looking all that great either way. For the ps4 you have FFXIV, Planetside 2, along with the division and destiny, which will both have superior graphics than the versions that 'might' make it onto the Xbone
The PS4 is selling out as fast as Sony can build them. Microsoft is getting some Xbox One sales from people who want a new console and can't find a PS4. Give it a few months and Microsoft will lose that category of sales back to Sony.
They'll release the same game for both consoles, but the PS4 will play it at higher frame rates and/or higher graphical settings. For example, maybe the PS4 runs a game at 60 frames per second while the Xbox One only delivers 40. Or the PS4 runs a game at 1920x1080, while the Xbox One needs to scale down to 1600x900 to keep other settings equivalent.
the only reason people will buy the xbone is due to halo......and thats like a year away. It is claimed that it will run on 60fps..i got a feeling that halo would look divine on ps4
Unfortunately you are wrong. The cell tech of ps3 is annoying, yet they are still pumping games out, both indie and big studio. By far, the ps3 is/was the best Console to ever come out, u till this new batch.I stand corrected. Not much of a techie here.
Maybe i need to look into it a bit more. i admit i have only really looked at the main and commercial review/previews.
As an MMO gamer though, which console do people think we will be most catered for?
Very hard to say, tbqh both platforms have a easier Dev tools, and I do admit I am a bit biased, but that's because I was a xbox guy that gave up and got the ps3, and loved it. But in the long run I'd have to give the nod to Sony, not only for having spec wise a better performing unit, but it has the potential, and while Microsoft is opening up dev tools to indie companies sony has been doing this for a number of years now and has a larger base. and as a final note, I hate to say it again, but if a company has to revise their policy to sell units only because of complaints, and not true desire to please the buying customer, again, it doesn't bode well.over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting...
the xb one upscales 1280x720 so yes there is a definite difference visually depending on what platform your playing the game on, this was more noticeable on BF4 where frame rates were low and resolution was noticeably lower on the xb one than on the ps4 etc. As for MMO's the only platform appart from the PC, that is going to benefit from MMO's is the PS4. This isnt so much due to the lack of GPU ability of the XB one, though of the consoles it is the least able, but more of a question of how MS handles online gaming in general. Destiny, the Division, Planetside 2, FFXIV;ARR, DCUO even, are heading to the PS4, and while Titan fall, Destiny and the Division are most likely going to be on the XB one, the difference in the gaming experience due to game resolution/frame rates will undoubtedly be as noticeable as it is in BF4, perhaps more so as by the time these games hit those platforms, they will be utilising the strengths (or lack of) of each platform.