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kickstarter: HeroQuest board game 25th anniversary edition
Nadia
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I'm not sure how this will play out
Hasbro has ip rights until Aug 25 2015
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00001355870
the Kickstarter has ip rights for Spain - and intends to ship worldwide
http://unibrander.com/spain/1464559ES/heroquest.html
http://sitadex.oepm.es/SitadexWS/index.jsp?numExp=M3040965
sounds fuzzy but an explanation seen at BGG
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1039647/heroquest-25th-aniversary-in-2014/page/7
They (GameZone Miniatures) can send to everyone, but they can't distribute. This means that you will receive the games without problems, also all who participate in the KS or later purchase in their online store. What they can't do is distribute in other countries, this game can only be in stores of Spain. But you can buy it here and they shipped there, that's legal. It's the same for other KS and for all people in the World, I'm spaniard and when I pledge in other KS projects (or crowdfundings) when finished... They send direct to me (not distribute to companies or shops in Spain).
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Hasbro Inc owns the main rights worldwide but in Spain they let the licence to Gamezone Miniaturas.
They just have to avoid the use of the illustrations, texts and one mini (the fimir) because some royalties could be claimed by the creators (not Games Workshop, note the difference).
As the trademark is registered in other countries (roleplaying game Glorantha/HeroQuest in the USA or by Hasbro directly) the only place to buy the gameboard (later) will be in Spain via their own shop.
But they plan to extended this in 2015 2016 by making a better deal with Hasbro.
i changed my pledge to $1.00
and will decide towards the end if I'm going to throw in
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I played this a good bit hanging out with my step-siblings many years ago. My mom probably still has the box somewhere in the house. Whenever someone comes up with a digital version of an RPG board game, this is the game I always think of, and this is the game that never seems to turn up.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
there's an inspired adaptation on ios / android, Mighty Dungeons
http://rootzwiki.com/news/mighty-dungeons-its-hero-quest-resurrected/ (fixed link)
http://mightydungeons.appspot.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=games.laylio.mightydungeons&hl=en
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Oh holy cats. *links away!*
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Hmmm. I've already played this. It might be that it requires that people play together to be really fun. :-)
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I've been having fun playing the prerelease (cough beta) Talisman game against 3 AI opponents
http://store.steampowered.com/app/247000
the full version is PC only at moment but will be coming to ios / android
the solo version (prologue) is available on tablets
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Interview about the kickstarter
much more info at link
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1078120/heroquest-interview-with-dionisio
Regarding the game;
- New HQ will be compatible with the old one and 28-30 mm fantasy miniatures. Probably there will not be any re-edition of the old adventures (as you can get it anywhere...yeoldein)
- Morkar and Zargon will have miniatures! They are agents of a superior entity.
- The core box will include expansions, and a hole campaign
- New Heroquest is Fully compatible with the old One, you can play the old manual campaigns using the new board and miniatures
- Dionisio says the basic price is quite tight, it is even too low for commercial purpose
- The size of each cell: a little bit bigger than in the old one, so that you can move better the miniatures
- The bases are transparent, and you will be able to glue the miniatures as you want
- There will be characters in the Hero Expansion with their own spells
- About the sarcophagus insert and the spirit steel; "You will get wonderful surprises, I am a fan!" "we will not send anything that you cannot use, we know how to make games"
- They are working in a experience/leveling up system which don't need pencil and paper
- They are accepting personal mods for HQ, they will study them and get an agreement to use it.
- All templates, all rooms, and all the maps are double-sided (they are printed on both sides)
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Come on. Source link?
received this email
This is a message from Kickstarter Support. We're writing to inform you that a project you backed, Heroquest 25th Anniversary, is the subject of an intellectual property dispute.
The project has been removed from public view until the dispute is resolved, which can take up to 30 days. The project’s funding and the countdown to its deadline have been stopped. If the project becomes available again, the countdown will continue and the new deadline will extend past the original deadline for as much time as the project was unavailable. You can find out more by reading our Copyright Policy and our Trademark Policy.
Original deadline: Friday Dec 27, 6:00pm EST
Time remaining if project becomes available: 29 days
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http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1078713/gamezone-miniatures-official-statement-about-the-i
Please bear with us. Gamezone and Moon Design are in a meeting negotiating a settlement for both parts at this time.
Moon Design believes that their interests in the HEROQUEST brand within the USA will be infringed upon. Although we are not distributing or selling our product in US territory. As a precaution Moon Design presented a C/D on the 27th of Nov. Our talks are coming to a point where the negotiation will benefit all those involved, which finally would let us offer our product in stores in the USA sometime next year.
The Moon Design C/D was suspended, but on the table, as another element in the negotiation. Here at Gamezone it is our hopeful understand that its activation is possibly by error as both parties where coming to an agreement. Said agreement would finally end beneficially for Fans in the USA by opening the physical distribution to stores in that country. This brief pause of activity is as harmful to the interests of Moon Design as it is to Gamezone Miniatures.
We are as surprised as the Heroquest community, we didn’t expect that on Thanksgiving, of all days, to be wrapped up in this mess, that is so disagreeable for everyone involved. On a day such as this it is extremely complicated to get in touch with Moon Design. We are working diligently on a solution so we can continue with the project from where it is at the moment and reinforce it for the future.
Thank you. Dionisio
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the other side of the story
http://www.glorantha.com/background-concerning-suspension-of-gamezones-kickstarter-campaign/
The project by Gamezone, a Spanish game company, proposes to remake a role-playing/board game originally produced by Milton Bradley and Games Workshop in 1989. The project calls their game “Heroquest” which is identical to our registered mark and easily confused with it.
Gamezone initially asked us for use of the Heroquest trademark on July 31, 2013. The next day we asked them if they could provide us with a copy of any written agreement with Hasbro to produce a 25th Anniversary Edition of Hasbro’s board game. Gamezone did not provide us with any written confirmation (and as of this date still has not done so). On August 26, 2013, we informed Gamezone by email that we must decline their request.
Despite being explicitly refused permission to use our trademark, Gamezone went ahead and launched this Kickstarter. As a New York State corporation, Kickstarter is subject to US trademark laws and the use of our trademark in the campaign was a violation of those laws.We told Gamezone that they needed to immediately get a licensing agreement from us (which, among other things, would require that they pay us for the rights to the name since it would mean foregoing our opportunity to release our game using our trademark and to compensate us for that lost revenue).
Gamezone did not get back to us within the period we set, and rather than have this end up in litigation (which could also bring in other parties with IP at stake), we asked Kickstarter to suspend the campaign. We then spoke to Gamezone informing them that we had certain non-negotiable demands for any license agreement, among them a statement that Gamezone has explicit permission from Hasbro to make this game based on their IP. Gamezone has assured us that they can get such permission, but until we see confirmation, we cannot responsibly license our trademark to be used in this Kickstarter campaign.
We sympathize with the fans of the Milton Bradley game who enthusiastically supported this project. We strongly support Kickstarter and the revitalization of old games with a loyal following. However, such activities must be done with the consent of the trademark holder and of any other legal owners of the property.
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