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SOE Everquest Next: Landmark stream archive from yesterday. LOTS of great stuff in here, questions,
http://www.twitch.tv/everquestnext/b/479480042
To be honest, this might have been better than SOE Live.
I admittingly am more excited for Everquest: Next than I am Landmark, but I'm starting to see what Landmark can be: A fully player created MMO. There will be combat, there will be monsters, you can create your own dungeons if you wish.
While I am much more excited for Everquest Next, I am definitely going to partake in Landmark until then.
I finally get that they want to dominate the "Minecraft" crowd and the MMORPG crowd.
Landmark can be a glorified, much better Minecraft.
Everquest Next can change the MMORPG genre.
Very informative stream!!
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Looking forward to EQN/L though.
and what are you trying to prove with these NICHE and crappy MMORPG's with the small indie budget here?
I saw these games. they look like crap with horrible engines in them and the fact that EQL uses voxel-based engine trumps everything that is in these two games combined was made. The fact that SOE use Story Bricks for AI is going to let me make fantastic dungeons with smart AI and great encounters.
grrr i need to wait until i get home from work to watch it
found this summary on reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/EQNext/comments/1qkklq/eqn_landmark_livestream_111313_at_4pm_pacific/
Here are the takeaways that I found interesting:
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Niche is not a bad word, considering every non niche MMO has been garbage and generally a WoW clone.
Ryzom and Wurm have features that are far more interesting, far deeper, and far better made than anything I've seen out of Landmark.
Landmark stinks of a side project that they're adding basic functionality to to try to bankroll EverQuest Next.
It looks like an incredibly shallow stripped down version of Minecraft.
If they continue to reinforce this idea of creative uniqueness, I may just end up falling in love with this game. I hope they allow for just as much creative freedom in all aspects of game play in Everquest next/landmark.
Would be even more amazing if we could create our own characters, design their hair,etc with simple tools just like they used in the demonstration in this video. I just see no reason to stop at buildings.
I didn't see any of what you did I guess. EQNL looks like a much more detailed and in depth Minecraft if anything. EQNL is the closest thing to a pure sandbox I have ever seen, especially since Voxels are the digital equivilant of sand.
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Only Minecraft looks even worse then Pong. While I think that content/playability > graphics, Minecraft looks like a abandoned alpha project of Lego Online.
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I'm not talking about the building, specifically, being able to smooth voxels and change colors is nice.
But the day you can build elaborate traps, grow crops, tame animals, and all the numerous things you can do in Minecraft, in EQL, it'll seem stripped down.
Do none of you understand that there's more to minecraft than the building of houses? If it was just about building houses, it would have gotten boring ages ago. You can actually DO things in Minecraft, and its a living world.
Judging a released game to a pre alpha one that you've seen a couple videos of is kind of a poor idea. They have stated that EQL will be much more than just building things. If you choose to not believe them than there isn't going to be much worthwhile discussion about it.
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You can drop items by hitting Q in Minecraft. The other player can then run over and pick it up.
About the livestream: I was really impressed. I have spent over 60+ hours in Neverwinter's Foundry system and of course spent my time in Minecraft (mostly Survival mode however.)
The toolset that EQN:L showed blew both of those games and pretty much anything else I've seen out of the water.
And that's the base foundation of what they have right now. Pretty exciting stuff.
Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!
Yet this whole thread is full of people saying this will be way better than Minecraft.
Yet this whole thread is full of people saying this will be way better than Minecraft.
They are using the information that they have been given and assuming the devs aren't outright lying to them. It isn't like Minecraft is a heavily complex game outside of the building tools. If all they did was copy what Minecraft has done to what we've already seen it would be way ahead of Minecraft. If they follow through on even 25% of what they have said they are doing with this it will be much more complex than Minecraft. If they get 50% of it they will blow it away.
Watched the entire video, first time I've ever done such a thing..... probably won't again soon.
Looks like a decent world builder, and if I were into that stuff I see where it could be fun, but I'm not.
So will have to wait for more info on the "combat" they spoke of before deciding if this title is worth playing.
As I watched them build these structures I kept thinking....but after they are built, what does a person do with them? Do they impart bonuses, can you attack them, or is this strictly a matter of looking at your work and admiring it?
I suspect the latter and if so then I'll likely be passing.
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Watch some Minecraft videos. I would set Minecraft at the minimum of what you will be able to do with the game since it seems easy enough to at least copy someone else's work.
I don't play Minecraft but my kids do and they are generally very active in the game running around in others creations.
The PvP is very likely to be simplistic though since you only have one class and EQN is a multi classed style of game.
This. Right here is why this seems like a half assed side project.
In minecraft, you can actually DO things with your buildings. There is a world outside of the buildings too. Tons of depth and room to play. People have made COMPUTERS in Minecraft.
EQL... you make a thing... and then you look at it for a while I guess?
Yep Tibernicuspa, that is all the game is going to be, you build stuff and they just lied about all the other stuff they said would be in there.
The other day I watched a TESO video where they were customizing their characters appearance. I mean it looked so dumb, you could make your character and then there wasn't anything else to do. They just kept showing them sitting there and rotating. Most games after you make your character you can run around do stuff with him, but apparently not this one.
The game is in alpha and they showed you one tiny part of it, of course it looks limited!
Starting to look real interesting. I believe the final version will improve on Minecraft. We shall wait and see.
I'm slowly starting to overlook the cartoony graphics which I still don't love.
When they talk about staking a claim, they are meaning pay real money for your plot of land, right? You will need to buy the land from SOE, correct?
Because Minecraft didn't start that way in Alpha *eye roll*
Minecraft expanded because of the community, not because of the company making the game.
All those fancy things like COMPUTERS was made possible thanks to the efforts of players.
Which is exactly what SOE is calling on people to do for Landmark.
Like what? They hinted at combat. They said you can mine things.
That doesn't sound like much. Certainly not Minecraft level. They're not going to make this a full fledged game, because it would directly compete with EQNext.
The PLAYERS were given the tools to make them. Landmark doesn't have redstone, as far as I can tell?
Not to mention people didn't start buying Minecraft until they added the day and night cycle with defending your shit against creepers and zombies.