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GTA 5 - played it and sold it already

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  • IkisisIkisis Member UncommonPosts: 443

    I guess you guys dont get the humor thats made to make you stop and think about hey this is kinda a extreme version of reality?

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    The views on women, Have you not saw any ad on any market with a women in it? No matter what it is its always got to be a "Perfect figured" Sounds like shes a idiot.

    Its all one big joke on Marketing and the way the worlds progressing. Thats what i get from it anyways, is a entertaining way of saying Society is going down the tubes.  



  • xeniarxeniar Member UncommonPosts: 805
    Originally posted by Rockniss

    I love consoles, but I hate this game. It's pure stupidity. It's just one wrong thing after another. That's how some folks are though I guess. I would rather play as a cop and fight crime. Despite the fact that I hate it, I played it enough to know it's fun, I just can't get past the immorality.

    I played the older GTA's I think combining the fact that I am older now and maturity level has changed drastically and this game of course has pushed the limits yet again. i just couldn't bring myself to play it even though I wanted to. I had to sell it on ebay and get it out of my house.

    Anyone feel the same way? or sell it off already?

    oke so let me get this straight. Your playing a game called GTA (Grand Theft Auto) So its about stealing cars (well thats what it used to be about.) Anyway Your a bad MotherF....

    So your critizizing the game for exactly what it should be? my god...

  • SeelinnikoiSeelinnikoi Member RarePosts: 1,360
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by Seelinnikoi
    Originally posted by Odinthedark1
    ...only use my PS3 for exclusives nowadays xD
     

    Which GTAV is... lol

    It is not exclusive to PS3.

    He was talking in the context consoles / PC. So it is indeed a console exclusive, PS3 in his case.

    Time to grab a book or two. :)

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  • ArtaiosArtaios Member UncommonPosts: 550

    you are getting old and start to take everything serious...
    ffs... its JUST A GAME!

  • Swedish_ChefSwedish_Chef Member Posts: 213
    Originally posted by Distopia
    The main reason I avoid GTA titles is the mission structuring, it's always grown repetitive in little time for me. The same goes for most of it's ilk like the Mafia titles. One of the best I've played actually IMO was LA Noire. Simply because of it's adventure game investigation style missions. The only other exception was Red Dead Redemption. I think that was more the under used source material. I wish they played more like an RPG in that department, it would add much more to the side activities IMO.

    I love Red Dead Redemption. Despite his faults, John Marston is a likable character, and unlike the 'protagonists' in the GTA series, you get the sense that deep down he actually is a good person who is just trying to atone for the bad decisions he made early in life. This rings especially true if you take the 'good' choices when presented, although taking the morally questionable (but oftimes more pragmatic) options doesn't take away too much from that feeling.

    The protagonists in the GTA series on the other hand are just evil fucking bastards. Sure some have tragic backstories and whatnot, but at the end of the day they're criminals, thieves, and murderers who show little to no sign of ever making any serious attempts at becoming otherwise, and in fact often cause the downfall of anyone around them who is trying to do exactly that. This wasn't as much of a problem in the first 3-4 games due to their over-the-top & somewhat silly nature, but starting with San Andreas and striking full force in IV, the stories grabbed a ton of Max Payne-esque grit and started trying to portray things in a much more 'grimdark' manner. This is why many now prefer the Saint's Row games; sure there's some fairly grim subject matter there too, but so much in the game is played up for laughs that it's impossible to take things too seriously.

    RDR had plenty of grim moments, but also mixed in a bit of silliness here and there (I'm Herbert MOOOOOONNN!!!). Plus the expansion DLC was good old fashioned B-movie camp.

    Anyway, bottom line is that RDR sequel (someday, I hope) = good, but GTA V = Might pick it up someday for twenty bucks.

  • VaporsVapors Member UncommonPosts: 407
    Originally posted by sfc1971

    GTA has always been an amoral game to the point it is either just plain silly or a clever satire about gang culture.

    San Andreas especially felt like it took the wanna-be-gangster culture, at first seeming to idolize it and then lampooning the hell out of it.

    GTA is NOT real, it is a parody of movies like Pulp Fiction showing just how ridiculous such movies are.

    Once you manage to look past the "gangster training game" claims of the media, its nature as a spoof becomes very clear, it is so over the top you can't possible believe it to be real, it is like a porn movie where the actress doesn't just fuck the pizza delivery guy endless people who ring her doorbell. One pizza guy is porn, the entire service industry is comedy. 

    In a porn movie you can get away with one scene but in a porn game, the endless scenes would be idiotic, and that is what GTA is, a "crime" movie spun out to its natural conclusion which would be a distopian world with endless suffering where the truly insane are everyday characters.

    Again, GTA is not real, it ain't a simulation, it is a gangster parody. This is what movie characters would really have to be like if a movie went on for days.

    nice said and I see it like this. But actually the problem is most dont see the satire and just see the game super brutal and over the top (how the news on television see it aswell)

  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,640

    Actually with the OP on this one.

     

    People seem to have forgotten that with every right comes equal responsibility. 

     

    Constitutional freedom's may give you the rights to make games like this, but you must be willing to accept responsibility.

     

    We live in an age of anarchy, where we now have at the very least two generations of the most ignorant, violent, uneducated young people we have ever had. Not just on a national level, but on an international level as well. 

     

    Most people either do not see, or refuse to see where we are heading as a society.

     

    Civilization moves in cycles, as long as humanity has existed we have ages of enlightenment, followed by ages of destruction.

     

    We are well into an age of destruction.

     

    In historical correlation this game is like tossing Christians to the lions for the cheap thrill of the masses.  

     

    That is where we are at as a society, the rulers tossing blood and violence to the masses.

     

    Now it is up to us to decide if we are going to embrace it and be the animal, or become repulsed by it and be the man. 

     

     

  • KanethKaneth Member RarePosts: 2,286
    Originally posted by Rockniss
    Originally posted by Kaneth
    Originally posted by Rockniss
    Originally posted by Drakephire

    OP I hear you. In fact, I've never purchased a GTA game because the gameplay seems far too sick for my tastes. One of my favorite youtube game commentators was playing through GTA and I watched about 5 minutes of it until he came across two firemen trying to open a door.  He randomly picked a fight with the firemen and then beat them to death.

    Stopped watching after that.

     

    Stuff like beating firemen, driving down a beach and plastering people, punching women, people and not children but adults already have a hard enough time realizing what is right and wrong. This just confuses them even more.

    The fact that you don't like the subject matter of the game is one argument, but don't try to act like anything in GTA V is going to confuse anyone who is of their right mind. People who's minds are already skewed because of a mental disorder might be further confused by the content in GTA V, and frankly those types of folks should not be playing the game. However, anyone with their full mental capacity isn't going to all of a sudden say, "Ya know, I kill people in this game and get away with it. I'm going on a killing spree!".

    I will say that even though I love the GTA series, I am getting a little tired of the lack of choice when it comes to story. You're always the criminal who rises to power through nefarious means. It would be really cool if they had the ability for you to play a detective who is pursuing a criminal, and you could choose to be a good cop (does things by the book) or even a dirty cop (borderline criminal). The sandbox elements of the series are fantastic, but they need to break their own mold a bit and move on from the whole "you're a criminal down on his luck, or bored, or gets dragged back into the life even though you want to get out, etc".

     

    I like your ideas, I think with respect to people and full mental capacity, I dont know how long you been gaming, but the people in gaming lean heavy on the less than half mentality side of things. Look at the dumbing down of games, rediculous pay to win titles, and absolutely ignorant content such as scarlet blade and gta 5.

    I have been gaming for roughly 30 years (I am 35 and received my first Atari 2600 at 5). The "dumbing down" of gaming has nothing to do with mental capacity, and has everything to do with accessibility. Many companies seem more apt to release shallow games that are highly accessible, and release them in rapid succession (CoD is a good example of this). They are allowed to get away with this because it sells. However, the games that are instant classics, (such as anything from the ESO series, or Zelda or Final Fantasy, or TF2 or Sims, etc), tend to release a main game not very often and pour their blood, sweat and tears into the game. Many of those games either live a long lifespan because they are near utter perfection at launch, or because they receive a ton of support after the fact (look at the content added to any Sims).

    One could argue that GTA series has fallen into the category of one of the instant classics, but there is always massive controversy that surrounds each of the games in the series (especially after 3). The potential problem with GTA V is that Rockstar focused too much on controversy and not enough on moving their own formula forward. I haven't played V yet personally so I can't judge this for myself (I am waiting for PC version, unless the wife buys it for me for the holidays).

    I would argue that GTA V must be a great game, because many great games tend to polarize communities. People will love or hate the game, but they are ALL talking about it. Well played R*, well played.

  • sacredfoolsacredfool Member UncommonPosts: 849

    I disagree with the Op even though I dislike GTA games.

    I have no problems with being a bastard in games, I often play evil characters. Games don't really affect anyones morality (unless they had issues beforehand) but morality is one of the reasons why I don't play GTA. I simply don't want to have anything to do with that "culture" even if it is just a game and I know it won't affect me in real life. 


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  • KanethKaneth Member RarePosts: 2,286
    Originally posted by psiic

    Actually with the OP on this one.

     

    People seem to have forgotten that with every right comes equal responsibility. 

     

    Constitutional freedom's may give you the rights to make games like this, but you must be willing to accept responsibility.

     

    We live in an age of anarchy, where we now have at the very least two generations of the most ignorant, violent, uneducated young people we have ever had. Not just on a national level, but on an international level as well. 

     

    Most people either do not see, or refuse to see where we are heading as a society.

     

    Civilization moves in cycles, as long as humanity has existed we have ages of enlightenment, followed by ages of destruction.

     

    We are well into an age of destruction.

     

    In historical correlation this game is like tossing Christians to the lions for the cheap thrill of the masses.  

     

    That is where we are at as a society, the rulers tossing blood and violence to the masses.

     

    Now it is up to us to decide if we are going to embrace it and be the animal, or become repulsed by it and be the man. 

     

     

    I disagree. Never in the history of mankind have we had more relative peace. Yes there is conflict, especially in the Mid-East, but there aren't roving bands of bandits going around raping and pillaging en masse. In most areas of civilization you are able to travel in relative peace and not have to worry about being killed at random. Don't fall for the headlines of sensationalist news, as they make money off reporting on shocking things.

    I would say that our rise in technology is creating a massive disconnect between the average person and the living world around them. When you go out, you'll see tons of people staring into their new master, the smartphone, but it's not all that different than when TV was king. The biggest difference is portability.

    I'll also agree that violence in media has replaced gladiators of old, where people would go and watch other people get killed. Be in in games, or executions, hell even war. Would you rather people get a release of their baser more violent instincts via videogames, or do you want the Hunger Games to become real? Humans are predators, we are apex predators which is how we rose to such power through the animal kingdom, violence is part of our nature. If we survive long enough, perhaps we will evolve as a species to throw away our violent tendencies.

  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,534
    Originally posted by Rockniss
    Originally posted by Drakephire

    OP I hear you. In fact, I've never purchased a GTA game because the gameplay seems far too sick for my tastes. One of my favorite youtube game commentators was playing through GTA and I watched about 5 minutes of it until he came across two firemen trying to open a door.  He randomly picked a fight with the firemen and then beat them to death.

    Stopped watching after that.

     

    Stuff like beating firemen, driving down a beach and plastering people, punching women, people and not children but adults already have a hard enough time realizing what is right and wrong. This just confuses them even more.

     

    Thanks for the laugh, no sane person would be confused on what is "right and wrong" by playing a video game.

  • NagelRitterNagelRitter Member Posts: 607

    That's actually the reason I haven't really looked at these games at all.

    Even all the immorality stuff aside, I don't find that engaging.

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  • Swedish_ChefSwedish_Chef Member Posts: 213
    Originally posted by psiic

    Actually with the OP on this one.

     

    People seem to have forgotten that with every right comes equal responsibility. 

    Sadly, all too many people do this these days.

     Constitutional freedom's may give you the rights to make games like this, but you must be willing to accept responsibility.

    Agreed, but to be fair Rockstar has never, to my knowledge, denied responsibility. Maybe during the SA 'hot coffee' incident, but to be fair to them access to the unfinished 'sex scene' was entirely user created by following a very specific set of steps.

     We live in an age of anarchy, where we now have at the very least two generations of the most ignorant, violent, uneducated young people we have ever had. Not just on a national level, but on an international level as well. 

    Partly agreed. My own generation has its share of scary specimens, but the millennials positively terrify me. They have little moral guidance from either parental, secular, or religious sources. Even many of the popular sports stars these days are little more than convicted murderers, rapists, drunk drivers, etc. who happen to be able to run fast, and / or toss a ball through a net (or whatever scoring mechanism the game they play uses) better than the average human. I'm not saying the sports stars of yesteryear were all saints, but back then it was the exception, not the rule. You sure as hell have a hard time finding one worthy of being a role model like Isaiah Thomas or Vladmir Konstantinov, for example.

    Anyway back on topic, I feel the worst thing by far is the complete and utter lack of accountability & responsibility they demonstrate. Society has told them that nothing is their fault. Lose the ballgame? You don't need to practice & get better, you're special even if you lost (and of course, losing means nothing)!

    Get drunk and run over a boy scout troop while driving home with a BAC of 8.7? It's the bartender's fault for serving you! Sue him and ruin his / her life because of your screwup! Or if at a party, it's the host's fault for not owning a breathalyzer machine & testing you before letting you leave! Sue them!

    Did you laze your way through college, drinking to excess, screwing as many women (or men, or both) as you could while getting your liberal arts degree, only to find that all the time and money spent on it only guarantees you a future in the food service industry or at TMZ (seriously, who the fuck watches that utter garbage)? It's not your fault for picking a terrible major, it's the system's fault! Blame the government! Blame Wall Street! It's not fair! Every job should be equally viable regardless of need! Watch Michael Moore films full of half-truths and bullshit & contribute to his $100 million net worth, all while denying he's part of the 1%!!!

    And so on. I could give examples for probably a hundred pages. Scary stuff.

    Most people either do not see, or refuse to see where we are heading as a society.

    Or just don't care. Or expect someone else to fix it (because it's not their fault, you see). Regardless, I agree.

     Civilization moves in cycles, as long as humanity has existed we have ages of enlightenment, followed by ages of destruction.

    We are well into an age of destruction.

    I wouldn't say we're quite there yet, but if the attitude, apathy, and irresponsibility running rampant these days isn't corrected, then our species is indeed royally screwed, barring divine intervention (and God knows I've been praying for that quite literally, heh).

     In historical correlation this game is like tossing Christians to the lions for the cheap thrill of the masses.  

    As a Christian, I have to say that's taking it a bit far. I would say that, in combination with the issues above combined with the growing disconnect with reality our species as a whole is suffering (of course that depends on what one defines as reality, but that's a whole different topic), it could become problematic. As it is though I feel violent video games are a very healthy way of taking out frustration (Dark Souls not included, that game is great but has the opposite effect). It's the same effect as playing a sport or heading down to the shooting range for an hour. For a healthy person all have mental health benefits (and possible physical ones), and I don't see that changing... for a while, anyway.

     That is where we are at as a society, the rulers tossing blood and violence to the masses.

    Not yet, but getting close. The U.N. & U.S. leaders seem to enjoy tossing soldiers into the middle east these days though.

     Now it is up to us to decide if we are going to embrace it and be the animal, or become repulsed by it and be the man. 

    Again, a little extreme, but I agree with the sentiment behind it.

     

    Ugh, this ended up much longer then planned. Apologies for that. Also, please don't assume any political party preference or even predominantly left / right philosophical stance, as I hold views from both sides of the fence.

    I will say though that both major U.S. political parties (and all foreign ones, for that matter) can kiss the fattest, whitest part of my ass. They've all played their part in the sorry as hell state of society & politics today.

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  • DauntisDauntis Member UncommonPosts: 600

    Just because you find the content immoral or otherwise not to your liking does not make it ignorant. GTAV is actually very well designed and if you follow the stories and actually listen to what the characters are saying it is hardly as morally bankrupt as you attempt to portray it being. Sure do you have the ability to beat random people or kill them with your car, yep... you have that same choice in real life, if you want the game to be more moral... be more moral.

    If you played the other GTAs wtf did you expect? You have no one but yourself to blame for your bad times. I get you didn't like the game, you found a higher morality or whatever but calling the content ignorant and insulting gamers as half brains is ridiculous.

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  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,319

    I've played the villain before and loved it, but it's been in sci-fi and fantasy settings and not in a gritty realistic game like GTA (tried Saints Row 2 but didn't care much for it). It just doesn't sit right with me. If other people like it, that's OK. I like the over-the-top villainy like "Evil Genius", "Overlord", or "City of Villains" I want to have my own horde to command on my path to RULE THE WORLD BWAHAHAHA!!

    But that's cartoon evil, not real evil.

  • Stryx74Stryx74 Member UncommonPosts: 66
    Originally posted by Rockniss
    Originally posted by Drakephire

    OP I hear you. In fact, I've never purchased a GTA game because the gameplay seems far too sick for my tastes. One of my favorite youtube game commentators was playing through GTA and I watched about 5 minutes of it until he came across two firemen trying to open a door.  He randomly picked a fight with the firemen and then beat them to death.

    Stopped watching after that.

     

    Stuff like beating firemen, driving down a beach and plastering people, punching women, people and not children but adults already have a hard enough time realizing what is right and wrong. This just confuses them even more.

       What your saying is you have too strong a compulsion to do these things so you can't play the game. The game has an awesome story with flawed characters, seriously in some cases, that do commit some nasty crimes but other then missions the game does not force you to do anything. I took a non-lethal approach to the first heist and didnt hurt a fly. I had the option to go in guns blazing killing everything that moved but I CHOSE not to. You don't want to beat up firemen? Then don't freakin do it. You don't want to kill innocent bystanders? Then don't. Even most of the missions have you hurting people that it could be argued deserve it. It sickens me to hear ignorant people talk about this game as if the freedom it gives you forces you to commit atrocities.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773
    Originally posted by Rockniss
    Originally posted by Kaneth
    Originally posted by Rockniss
    Originally posted by Drakephire

    OP I hear you. In fact, I've never purchased a GTA game because the gameplay seems far too sick for my tastes. One of my favorite youtube game commentators was playing through GTA and I watched about 5 minutes of it until he came across two firemen trying to open a door.  He randomly picked a fight with the firemen and then beat them to death.

    Stopped watching after that.

     

    Stuff like beating firemen, driving down a beach and plastering people, punching women, people and not children but adults already have a hard enough time realizing what is right and wrong. This just confuses them even more.

    The fact that you don't like the subject matter of the game is one argument, but don't try to act like anything in GTA V is going to confuse anyone who is of their right mind. People who's minds are already skewed because of a mental disorder might be further confused by the content in GTA V, and frankly those types of folks should not be playing the game. However, anyone with their full mental capacity isn't going to all of a sudden say, "Ya know, I kill people in this game and get away with it. I'm going on a killing spree!".

    I will say that even though I love the GTA series, I am getting a little tired of the lack of choice when it comes to story. You're always the criminal who rises to power through nefarious means. It would be really cool if they had the ability for you to play a detective who is pursuing a criminal, and you could choose to be a good cop (does things by the book) or even a dirty cop (borderline criminal). The sandbox elements of the series are fantastic, but they need to break their own mold a bit and move on from the whole "you're a criminal down on his luck, or bored, or gets dragged back into the life even though you want to get out, etc".

     

    I like your ideas, I think with respect to people and full mental capacity, I dont know how long you been gaming, but the people in gaming lean heavy on the less than half mentality side of things. Look at the dumbing down of games, rediculous pay to win titles, and absolutely ignorant content such as scarlet blade and gta 5.

    ...maybe it's just the wording, I really hope I misinterpreted this.

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  • Tutu2Tutu2 Member UncommonPosts: 572
    One has to wonder how many times the "It's satire!" excuse can be used. I know GTA in its way mocks modern culture, especially gang culture, but at the same time...its getting old.
  • DrakephireDrakephire Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Originally posted by PWN_FACE
     

     

    As to your morality concerns, I wouldn't expect Knights in Shining Armor Online to be out any time soon. 

     

     

     

    It already exists. It's called Lord of the Rings Online ;)

  • RocknissRockniss Member Posts: 1,034
    Originally posted by RizelStar

    Originally posted by Rockniss
    Originally posted by Kaneth
    Originally posted by Rockniss
    Originally posted by Drakephire
    OP I hear you. In fact, I've never purchased a GTA game because the gameplay seems far too sick for my tastes. One of my favorite youtube game commentators was playing through GTA and I watched about 5 minutes of it until he came across two firemen trying to open a door.  He randomly picked a fight with the firemen and then beat them to death. Stopped watching after that.

     

    Stuff like beating firemen, driving down a beach and plastering people, punching women, people and not children but adults already have a hard enough time realizing what is right and wrong. This just confuses them even more.

    The fact that you don't like the subject matter of the game is one argument, but don't try to act like anything in GTA V is going to confuse anyone who is of their right mind. People who's minds are already skewed because of a mental disorder might be further confused by the content in GTA V, and frankly those types of folks should not be playing the game. However, anyone with their full mental capacity isn't going to all of a sudden say, "Ya know, I kill people in this game and get away with it. I'm going on a killing spree!".

    I will say that even though I love the GTA series, I am getting a little tired of the lack of choice when it comes to story. You're always the criminal who rises to power through nefarious means. It would be really cool if they had the ability for you to play a detective who is pursuing a criminal, and you could choose to be a good cop (does things by the book) or even a dirty cop (borderline criminal). The sandbox elements of the series are fantastic, but they need to break their own mold a bit and move on from the whole "you're a criminal down on his luck, or bored, or gets dragged back into the life even though you want to get out, etc".

     

    I like your ideas, I think with respect to people and full mental capacity, I dont know how long you been gaming, but the people in gaming lean heavy on the less than half mentality side of things. Look at the dumbing down of games, rediculous pay to win titles, and absolutely ignorant content such as scarlet blade and gta 5.

    ...maybe it's just the wording, I really hope I misinterpreted this.

     

    I said leaning heavy because not everyone that games has a screw loose, but the vast majority do not have thier priorities straight. If you're someone that thinks video games is one of your top 5 or so priorities, then you're one of the people I'm talking about. Good news though, your not in the minority here.
  • PookzPookz Member Posts: 15
    im so with you there. anyone know if the pc release will have the diablo III protection copy thing? or just stand-alone package?
  • EsuarfeeeeEsuarfeeee Member UncommonPosts: 91
    LMFAO this thread is good. thanks for making my day OP

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  • doorb7doorb7 Member UncommonPosts: 61

    Yea, just this morning after a session of gta5 I went outside and thought to myself, "hmm, I really feel like abseiling down a huge building, breaking through the glass and dragging a randomer out through it, whilst my mate flies his chopper and drags us to safety." Its this level of realism and stereotyping that's really making me think I might become a criminal.

    On  a serious note, its perfectly fine for gaming to be one of somebodies priorities, after all some people make a living out of it. For others it might be the only escapism they have from a really difficult time in their life. Of course family, friends etc are always more important, but gaming to one person can be really important and not so much to others, its not for us to judge based on how we feel about gaming.

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  • shinkanshinkan Member UncommonPosts: 240


    Originally posted by Rockniss
    I love consoles, but I hate this game. It's pure stupidity. It's just one wrong thing after another. That's how some folks are though I guess. I would rather play as a cop and fight crime. Despite the fact that I hate it, I played it enough to know it's fun, I just can't get past the immorality.I played the older GTA's I think combining the fact that I am older now and maturity level has changed drastically and this game of course has pushed the limits yet again. i just couldn't bring myself to play it even though I wanted to. I had to sell it on ebay and get it out of my house.Anyone feel the same way? or sell it off already?

    LOL at OP. You must have been living in a box if you didn't see whats been coming for GTA5, previews and what nots have not exactly been shy about its true content. And if you have been playing the older GTA's there, GTA5 can hardly be a shock.

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