IMO zerging is inevitable in any game, even if the objectives are scattered and balanced players seem to still prefer running in a large group to zerg train objectives. Maybe because it feels more safe, more epic, or more efficient.
That said, zerging is ok! It should be expected in uncapped or high cap player vs player settings because that is pretty much what warfare was about, whoever can field the most troops that were the least incompetent, with comparable wargear. That is until it became too easy for a few people to kill lots of people with mass killing weapons.
My advice if players want to avoid zerg warfare they should stick with instanced and player capped PVP or make a small party and roam around openworld doing the smallest scale objectives while intentionally avoiding any friendly zergs.
The problem with zergs has been extensively discussed on the ESOL forums. When the concern over ESOL being like GW2 the companies response was that they were very well aware of the issue and were building features into the war area do directly work against that.These include
-huge area.....so very difficult for a zerg to quickly go from point to point
-choke points where a small force can constrain a zerg
-significant rewards for successful defense
and other things they weren't willing to reveal.
all we can do is wait and see what is actually implemented.
These things which make ESO work are already available in a game like Champions of Regnum? Or even Aika Online or Aion will have them (Aion less because Aion has an infinite gear grind). For this reason, I'm hesitant to be a huge supporter of ESO, except maybe for better gfx.
1. You always play with the same people.. more or less: Same with Champions of Regnum. You really do end up knowing all your realm-mates , and in fact get to know your enemies as well. Though personally I prefer a game where I am not restricted to one realm.
2. Complex planning and execution: This is definitely the case also with Champions of Regnum. With 3 realms, 2 forts and 1 castle in each realm, 9 relics and 6 realm gems, there is quite a deal of strategyu involved to getting all the realm gems and making the Dragon Wish. Usually takes weeks to realise this and meanwhile there are all the fort and bridge battles to contend with. Like ESO, Regnum already has diversionary raids, simple scouting/wandering and hunting-at-will decisions.
3. On the other side of it ... : Just like Regnum. Just yesterday we were involved in a strategic attack on the final relic prior to invasion, at a time when the other realm was also vulnerable. This was to split the decision in the attacking realm and try to hit them when they were indecisive as a realm.
4. No separate PvE PvP server: Yup regnum only has one server and it is a pvp server. there is some farming for gear, but its not worth farming forever even if you are at max level. The amount of bonuses you can get from gear is largely capped by the immense rarity of good gear. You can try if you want but the main determinant of pvp battles remains the player's skills instead of the gear.
5. Reward system : Yea, Regnum starts out with the reward of getting to higher levels, then of getting Warmaster status, then of getting RP (reputation point) score ranking. Man y of the players are veterans of 3+ yrs standing and they are all still enjoying working on their RP score ranking.
i still find it difficult to see what more ESO offers compared to regnum. But the ES franchise does looke nice so maybe it is the realm lore and eye-candy.
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IMO zerging is inevitable in any game, even if the objectives are scattered and balanced players seem to still prefer running in a large group to zerg train objectives. Maybe because it feels more safe, more epic, or more efficient.
That said, zerging is ok! It should be expected in uncapped or high cap player vs player settings because that is pretty much what warfare was about, whoever can field the most troops that were the least incompetent, with comparable wargear. That is until it became too easy for a few people to kill lots of people with mass killing weapons.
My advice if players want to avoid zerg warfare they should stick with instanced and player capped PVP or make a small party and roam around openworld doing the smallest scale objectives while intentionally avoiding any friendly zergs.
PVP in MMOs in one pic:
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That's a dumb picture, cause there's nothing mediocre about a mongoose. 1v1 they usually rape snakes. Didn't you ever read Rikki Tikki Tavi?
The problem with zergs has been extensively discussed on the ESOL forums. When the concern over ESOL being like GW2 the companies response was that they were very well aware of the issue and were building features into the war area do directly work against that.These include
-huge area.....so very difficult for a zerg to quickly go from point to point
-choke points where a small force can constrain a zerg
-significant rewards for successful defense
and other things they weren't willing to reveal.
all we can do is wait and see what is actually implemented.
(Quoting from Iselin's post)
These things which make ESO work are already available in a game like Champions of Regnum? Or even Aika Online or Aion will have them (Aion less because Aion has an infinite gear grind). For this reason, I'm hesitant to be a huge supporter of ESO, except maybe for better gfx.
1. You always play with the same people.. more or less: Same with Champions of Regnum. You really do end up knowing all your realm-mates , and in fact get to know your enemies as well. Though personally I prefer a game where I am not restricted to one realm.
2. Complex planning and execution: This is definitely the case also with Champions of Regnum. With 3 realms, 2 forts and 1 castle in each realm, 9 relics and 6 realm gems, there is quite a deal of strategyu involved to getting all the realm gems and making the Dragon Wish. Usually takes weeks to realise this and meanwhile there are all the fort and bridge battles to contend with. Like ESO, Regnum already has diversionary raids, simple scouting/wandering and hunting-at-will decisions.
3. On the other side of it ... : Just like Regnum. Just yesterday we were involved in a strategic attack on the final relic prior to invasion, at a time when the other realm was also vulnerable. This was to split the decision in the attacking realm and try to hit them when they were indecisive as a realm.
4. No separate PvE PvP server: Yup regnum only has one server and it is a pvp server. there is some farming for gear, but its not worth farming forever even if you are at max level. The amount of bonuses you can get from gear is largely capped by the immense rarity of good gear. You can try if you want but the main determinant of pvp battles remains the player's skills instead of the gear.
5. Reward system : Yea, Regnum starts out with the reward of getting to higher levels, then of getting Warmaster status, then of getting RP (reputation point) score ranking. Man y of the players are veterans of 3+ yrs standing and they are all still enjoying working on their RP score ranking.
i still find it difficult to see what more ESO offers compared to regnum. But the ES franchise does looke nice so maybe it is the realm lore and eye-candy.