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IT's really not SE"s fault at all.
dekkion1
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I think they had no idea that this many people would come back, let alone pre order!! i new from the start when they said over 1.1 million peeps Preordered and it would be on PS3 plus all the people who had 1.0 that didnt throw it away, they would try again, i knew it would be hell for them over there
so this is to be expected, and lets not talk about time zones . its noon here so u know what time it is over there.
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Of course its not their fault, its ours! How dare we buy their product and want to actually use it!
Shame on us. SHAAAAAAAAAME!
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.
LOL.
Good laugh OP. Good laugh.
Of course it's not their fault. They're only failing to manage the 2nd installment of their own game. Who wouldn't guessed people would actually be playing it this time around. And really, how could we expect a group of professionals who've been making games for decades to actually plan anything out, or code their server infrastructure in an intelligent manner. It's just unheard of!
The only thing I really blame on S/E:
They pushed the release too soon, or they drug their feet on the beta schedule and didn't allow enough time for it. Another week in open beta and these bugs probably would have been fixed.
Going weekend to weekend on some sort of abbreviated beta schedule didn't serve them any justice. A lot of these problems were found in P4, and they just didn't allow enough time to test the fixes. If P4 had run through Thursday (the 22nd), or if they had started P4 a week earlier, or pushed the release back a week - most of these congestion problems would probably have been a done deal.
I was ok with the 3102 and the 90k and the 1017 in P4. Now I'm a bit less forgiving...
It's far from the worst launch in the history of gaming, but it's probably the worst launch since FFXIV1.0.... and that isn't a good thing when your a company trying to distance yourself from that as much as you can.
So many haters... I can't help but laugh when I see people complain about beta/early access/launch issues when an MMO releases... I have never played or heard of an MMO releasing with a PERFECT launch. Near-perfect, maybe, but not flawless. To put it bluntly, some people need to just STFU and let the bugs and issues be worked now, because they are always bound to happen. SMH
^^^ This they had ample numbers to enable them to prepare for the worst but they chose not to,
Also this is not 2001 anymore the genre isn't new and there is plenty of past experience to draw from.They are to blame just as EA was to blame for the Sim City debacle and any there company that had bad launches for any game are to blame.
FFXIV is an amazing traditional MMORPG but making excuses for launch problems is fanboism at it's worst.
Day 2 of early access and server go down for maintenance...not a big deal to most, problem is the generation of kids that play MMOs get so whiny and frustrated because they have no clue what else to do with their day....
I mean its not that big of a deal...every major MMO has had issues on launch or EA periods...its nothing new...you think these ADD kids would have figured it out by now but they all just want to rage, talk crap about how they feel so ripped off, how the company...dropped the ball etc.
Quite pathetic that these kids are the future of our world...parents should be ashamed of themselves for raising such sorry ass human beings
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I don't know...the same way a professional chef makes a mistake on an order or a professional pilot makes a mistake and crashes a plane. How about when Toyota makes a mistake and has to recall 60,000 cars? The game is great, the bug is not. The bug can be fixed and you still have a great game. Look at the big picture and stop venting just because you are missing a few hours of gametime. If you like the game at all this is a horrible way to ensure it's successful. If you don't want to play then quit but I can tell you from my experience that nothing is perfect.
I just retired from the Marines and was AMAZING at my job. I nearly wrote the book on many of the dynamic aircraft close air support procedures we did during the Afghan and Iraqi war. No matter how much time I put in and how hard I worked, I still lost many Marines and friends during the war. Stuff just happens sometimes. I highly doubt if you had the same background and education as the game director of FFXIV, that you could just launch a game with zero issues. A MMO launch ..especially one with this large of a fanbase is ever going to be perfect. I bet everyone has worked their butts off on a project before and when you finally were finished realized that there was many things you could have done better. That's why they call it hindsight.
Vicus
Its a launch for a game that has 1.1. million + people playing...its bound to have issues, go outside enjoy the sun...it will be resolved soon...not the end of the world.
But this game was already released long time ago. That was the time, when they could misscalculate about the servers, but now, when the game is released second time it is ridiculous for them to have more problems, than games have first time around. Especially with all those beta phases that aren't done in such high frequency in other productions.
Other games have had more people log in on day one and had far less problems.
Of course there were going to be issues but trying to downplay the severity of them compared to other launches and trying to shift blame from SquareEnix is ridiculous.
I'm not saying they won't bounce back and it's how quickly they bounce back from their errors and how they compensate those effected those affected is what matters in the long term.
As to insulting people who are complaining.This is an open,public forum and they are allowed to complain even whine,especially if the spent the money to preorder and are not getting their reward for doing so with no guarantee of compensation ATM.
You are free to disagree and state that disagreement but trying to shame people and silence their opinions is true childishness.
New MMO same stupid whiny complaints because the early release or release date didn't go super smoothly without any hiccups. Are you all new to this or something? Am i really the only one who expected there to be problems. Why do people do the same rants every single time a new MMO releases and why do you all seem to always think that these things should of been able to be handled so easily? Anyone that knows anything about computer software knows that no matter what something can always go haywire.
Sure they got a ton of preorders but lets be realistic here for a second. Everyone is trying to play this weekend for early access because whenever a new mmo launches everyone decides to skip real life for the release of it. Now lets fast forward just a week. How many of you will be back into your normal routines? Which I'm assuming isn't sitting in front of your computer playing an mmo for 12 hours at a time. This always happens because people are going out of their way to all play at the same time which isn't normal anyway. Its hard to prepare anything for the kind of congestion as a brand new mmo opening. The first couple days are by far not the most important in a mmos life span so please some of you all just chill out.
The funny thing about the people raging is in a week you'll still be playing the game. You're only whining right now because you can't play but lets be serious for a second. You aren't going to cancel your preorder. You're thinking that crying and throwing a tantrum on forums will somehow magically get the devs worried. But we all know you're still twiddling your thumbs just waiting to play anyway. Oh yea and since this is SE do you really think they're bothering with an American site like this in the first place?
TLDR: just shut up sit down and wait until you can play. Thats what you're going to do anyway. Stop wasting your breath and making useless threads whining about things that you're going to wait out anyway.
Exactly what other games have 1.1 million + people login on launch and have had no issues?
Japan has 25 servers ffs ...japan is the same size as the uk give or take....
na/eu have 25 combined.....
eu has just 6 of those servers
the whole of EU = 6 servers are they fucking stupid or what
I hope you realize that the asian MMO market is much...much larger than NA and EU combined.
200 million estimated MMO gamers reside in Asian countries...25 servers is frankly not enough.
This. The people saying they have no clue how many people would play should just stop it, and cut that sentence shorter to reflect what's really going on. As in "SQEN has no clue" - that's more like it.
The entire way the pre order, account creation, registration, and not so open beta process has been orchestrated shows a kind of anal amateur vibe such that it's little wonder this is all a fiasco. They didn't let people register until within a week of EA. They didn't have a truly open beta, they severely limited access, and didn't stress their servers anything like release is stressing them.
I like this game but making excuses for professionals that should know better is way too fanboy.
Premium MMORPGs do not feature built-in cheating via cash for gold pay 2 win. PLAY to win or don't play.
First off it is always the Vendor's (SE) fault but it may be a problem with poor planning and not intentional lack of action or bugs within the game...
My take on things...
The typical turn around time from order - delivery - install and final deployment for servers is about 6-8 weeks. So that means that the Game worlds / capacity today was spec'ed with the information Square Enix had back in mid June...
So now SE has a problem, you know that you don't have enough hardware and you have to make the call if you delay launch or hope things will hold together long enough until you can deploy more horsepower. So...It looks like SE kept the launch on track and it could be a bumpy ride for the next couple weeks.
Also remember this is the internet and the sky isn't falling. FFXIV is still alot of fun to play, my small guild has been playing round the clock since early access and been having a blast even with the few 2 hour Maintenance reboots and a bunch of us getting locked out of Dungeons and Instanced Storyline quests every once in a while.
The game is very well made, it is a great blend of traditional MMO game play with newer concepts like Public Quests, Multi classing,etc.. all wrapped up in a great engine with awesome graphics.
If this was beta I'd be right beside you telling people to chill out because it's beta, but it's not. The excuse that it's launch or early access and you should know there's going to be issues is such a load of crap. If you bought a car would you expect it to break down 3 times a day the first week you had it, and be annoyed when your key would only randomly work?
Take any other product out there, if you owned it and couldn't use it for the first week you would be pissed but the idea that because it's an MMO that everything is fine is insane. They knew the exact number of preorders they had. They should have plenty of metrics from the last couple betas to know what kind of congestion they will be facing this weekend. I understand shit goes wrong, but this is the worst launch I've seen since AoC and people have legit reasons to be frustrated at this point.
TLDR: You shut up sit down and let people bitch when they have a right to bitch because you aren't the master of the internet.
Here we go again,,,I already said there are no launches with no issues just that there have been others with far less issues but sure I'll bite ,off the top of my head Warhammer Online,SW:TOR,GW2 and Aion all had 1 million + preorders and day one logins and had far smoother launches...nowhere near perfect but better.
Some problems are expected and mistakes happen but this genre isn't starting out anymore and there is plenty of past experience to draw from not to mention SE had metrics on how many preorders there were and how many old accounts for the first game they had,they could of prepared for that number but clearly didn't.
Why should they when if you had your way there would be no accountability or complaint?
Couple of those games I had played on launch...not smooth at all.
But its Early access....about 36 hrs into it....hardly end of the world.
Once again I never said it was the end of the world and I also said those games had launch problems too but they were better launches than FFXIV:ARR/ and that the blame is squarely on the shoulders of SE not anyone else no matter how you,the OP or anyone else try to twist things.
I'm not even commenting on t e quality of the game which I think is fine.The only thing I'm pointing out is people have both the right and cause to complain because they are not getting what they paid for.
This would be true of launches with less problems or more and is not SE or FFXIV:ARR specific.In fact the only true hate I am seeing in this thread is from people who can't bear to heart negative things about their chosen game no matter how deserved or not.
Fanboi/Hater same thing different day or subject.
Like hell it's not their fault. They have one of the most ridiculous bottlenecked server architectures I've seen in a long time.
On a supposedly AAA title no less. No, sorry - it's completely their fault.