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[Interview] General: Civilization Online: It's Real, and It's Happening

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  • SunscourSunscour Member UncommonPosts: 186

    Yea!!

     

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  • wowclonezwowclonez Member Posts: 74
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by Verterdegete
    OMG... Cartoony graphics... Again.

     

    Extremely realistic graphics are something to avoid if you're creating a game that you expect people to play, and pay for four, five or even ten years down the line. . The current 'realistic' graphics at any given time are usually nothing more than just an emphasis on the current tech - bump maps, water effects, self-shadowing, cloth animations, more betterer water, etc. When the new tech or new fad comes in, the older graphics really start to show their age. Most MMOs that are several years old either look it or have had several engine updates along to way to combat that.

     

    This isn't only in the game industry. It's an issue for Hollywood, too.Pixar can rake in gobs of cash time and again, and  kids can watch Cars for the umpteen millionth time almost a decade later, but it gets kind of painful trying to watch the more realistic-looking Final Fantasy movies right now.  For example, watch Advent Children and Monster Inc and you can see both focused an inordinate amount of camera time on watching hair move.

     

    The more stylised or cartoon-ish the graphics are, the longer they stand the test of time. It safeguards against those who will reject a work because of the tech used.

     

    EDIT: Clarity

    This is not true, Mass Effect came out in 2007 and look at it, http://tinyurl.com/ltgpvth

  • acelee74acelee74 Member UncommonPosts: 2
    i heard this game was going to be only an asian release only,   that it would only be released in Skorea.    i hope this is not true.    but i already read about it so we will soon see i guess.
  • ButeoRegalisButeoRegalis Member UncommonPosts: 594
    Not very excited about this:
    • In development since 2010 and this is what you got?
    • 3 factions, so how do you make sure you don't have "Luxembourg" and "Singapur" playing against "Soviet Union" in a completely unbalanced setup?
    • I watched the little game play video with RipperX of A tale in the desert. That looks extremely niche-y, boring and nothing like Civ Offline.
    Please don't run the Civ series into the ground because you think you need to do "online" to be hip and cool.

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  • hfztthfztt Member RarePosts: 1,358

    All I see is a game called Civilization Online and not Sid Meiers Civilization Online. Also no mention of Firaxis at all...

    Meh. 2K might have the rights to the name, but that does not make this a true Civ game.

  • CharSolCharSol Member UncommonPosts: 47
    I read on Kotaku and PC Gamer that this is only planned for Korean release so not much point in paying any attention or even putting too much thought into this until a North American and European release is even on the table. :(
  • spookydomspookydom Member UncommonPosts: 1,782
    Originally posted by CharSol
    I read on Kotaku and PC Gamer that this is only planned for Korean release so not much point in paying any attention or even putting too much thought into this until a North American and European release is even on the table. :(

    Yeah, just reading the same thing myself 

    http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/08/08/civilization-online-north-america/ <<<<<< Link to the article.

  • YuuiYuui Member UncommonPosts: 723
    Originally posted by spookydom
    Originally posted by CharSol
    I read on Kotaku and PC Gamer that this is only planned for Korean release so not much point in paying any attention or even putting too much thought into this until a North American and European release is even on the table. :(

    Yeah, just reading the same thing myself 

    http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/08/08/civilization-online-north-america/ <<<<<< Link to the article.

    Just wait for the hype :) It will get to here. ;)

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  • GudrunixGudrunix Member Posts: 149

    I'm pessimistic.

    It's a serious mismatch of what Civ players are interested in and what the game promises to deliver.  Civ players want to make high-level decisions for a civilization; this is a game where it appears that players will mostly be doing the low-level tasks.  In Civ, you order the pyramids built; in Civ Online, you're the serf carrying the stone blocks from the quarry to the top of the mound.  I don't see players tripping over themselves to sign up for that.

    Also, MMO grand strategy games have a number of deep and persistent problems that nobody has been able to satisfactorily solve yet.  The most widespread problem is "that guy who lives in his mother's basement that has way more time than you", which inevitably results in the least socially adjusted individuals ending up on top of the online social order, just because they have more time than anyone else.  Along the same lines is "those guys who only talk to each other and not to anyone else and always band together and crush everyone else with no chance for diplomacy."  Fun!

    While I'm on a pessimistic streak, a prediction:  this will be all warfare all the time.  Winning Civ has always been about warfare, and I don't see this as being any different.  (Oh sure, there are diplomatic or cultural victory conditions - but those are primarily there for when you're bored of crushing your enemies through warfare and just want a change of pace for a game or two, before you go back to crushing your enemies through warfare.)  They can add in vague penalties for declaring war all they want, it won't change the simple fact that the easiest way to get stuff is to find someone who has it and hitting him over the head.

    Final pessimistic prediction:  cash shop.  Ask players of CivVille on Facebook if you think Firaxis has any aversion to pay-2-win.

  • CharSolCharSol Member UncommonPosts: 47
    Unusually it seems, I very rarely complete my CIV games through warfare, it is very much on the backburner for me.  I primarily win through science but with the new CIV V expansion I am still trying to achieve the illusive culture victory (Although I don't really understand all of this Culture/Tourism business yet).  I tend to build strong defences, keep my army up to date and generally at least matching all of my competition then bump up my economy as high as I can while I attempt to reach my chosen victory condition.  I don't start wars, I just end them.
  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,789
    Not being released in NA, we were trolled.
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  • jesadjesad Member UncommonPosts: 882
    Happy to see this.  It feels like a natural step in the evolution of that franchise.  I really hope that they can make it work.  Building it the way that they intend to puts a lot of trust on the playerbase, and that's a fickle lover if ever there was one, but if I know one thing about Mr. Meier (and I know a couple of things), even if the first run doesn't exactly hit it on the mark, he will keep on improving the design until it becomes a really good game.  I'm looking forward to it.
     

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  • LenoxLenox Member UncommonPosts: 96
    is it just me or i get the feel of A Tale in the Desert? :D
  • BookahBookah Member UncommonPosts: 259
    YES its happening.....................................................................................................In Korea.

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  • ArconaArcona Member UncommonPosts: 1,182

     

    wonder if this is ingame, or a prerendered movie

  • ArconaArcona Member UncommonPosts: 1,182
    Originally posted by acelee74
    i heard this game was going to be only an asian release only,   that it would only be released in Skorea.    i hope this is not true.    but i already read about it so we will soon see i guess.
     

    well, they have made a english homepage for the game.

    http://civilizationonline.com/

  • zellmerzellmer Member UncommonPosts: 442

    While I'm interested, but that summary sounds like it's doomed for some of the worst "realm problems" you will have ever experienced..

    They really have to think about how they're going to handle the whole "most players wins, PERIOD" aspect they've developed with the systems described..

     

     

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