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MOBA question - please dont flame, just a question

napprognapprog Member Posts: 14

i am interested in trying a MOBA, but wont go through the trouble or money for DOTA;s

 

so i ask, league of legends vs heroes of newerth

 

which should i approach, differences?

 

thanks all.

 

 

 

 

----come say Hi in EQ2, AB server, im deathusen

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  • DamonVileDamonVile Member CommonPosts: 4,818

    I never played HoN but you can't really go wrong with LoL if you want to try one. It's very fair in it's free model and somewhat noob friendly.

    Smite is also worth a shot. I kind of got bored with MOBAS but it's like LoL but from a different point of view ( it's more 3d than iso )

  • napprognapprog Member Posts: 14

    actually i have smite, and play occasionally, but its kinda different as it plays more action orientated

     

  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 1,990
    I would go LoL personally. Also, wrong forum, Moba's are not MMO's. There is a general gaming forum that MOBA's fall under as they are not massively multiplayer (10 people).
  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Member UncommonPosts: 3,140
    Originally posted by napprog

    i am interested in trying a MOBA, but wont go through the trouble or money for DOTA;s

     

    so i ask, league of legends vs heroes of newerth

     

    which should i approach, differences?

     

    thanks all.

     

     

     

     

    ----come say Hi in EQ2, AB server, im deathusen

    Don't play DOTA 2 what ever you do :) at least until they fix the automated mute system they implemented into the game recently. It's just full of people abusing the mute system (such as myself). People are purposely abusing the system currently so that Valve alters their current system. Essentially the Mute ban makes it so that you cannot communicate with your team or in the lobby of the game so long as you're under the ban. A single report will instantly mark the player as abusing the chat system which will put a 24 hours mute on your account and it escalates rapidly.

     I personally use 20 accounts to mute everyone and anyone regardless of behavior. This is all to prove a point because the system ruins the current meta. So it's my recommendation to steer clear of the game or pray you don't get one of my accounts in the match with you. The mute ban can last up to 168 hours and it's quite annoying.

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    Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Member UncommonPosts: 3,140
    Originally posted by madazz
    I would go LoL personally. Also, wrong forum, Moba's are not MMO's. There is a general gaming forum that MOBA's fall under as they are not massively multiplayer (10 people).

    Technically the games are 'MMO' they have massive amounts of players online playing the game.

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    Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,783

    I wouldn't recommend HoN. If you want to play the traditional style dota, then DotA2 is up and running and is very good. They'll get the muting and such sorted in time, between now and then though you'll have plenty to learn.

    LoL focuses on a different aspect of the moba experience.

    Now at some point you'll hear that dota is more hardcore and takes more skill. This is not true, each game has it's own skillset. Dota is more about the details of the game, meaning you have to pay attention to many little things like timing, last hits, builds that compliment your hero & group, when and where to use what skill. It's a very technical game.

    Where LoL shines over Dota (and by a very large margin) is that Riot has put hero vs hero interaction as the high point. It shares many of the technical aspects as Dota, but you aren't punished as severely when you miss a single tiny moment. However, heros are more role oriented and fights are more important and encompass a wide range of player skill.

    Abilities in Dota are not really spammable, and snowballing is very extreme in dota. LoL actually wants you use the abilities often. A team battle in dota happens in a few seconds, a LoL battle can go back and forth, people can recover and have time to support teammates target switch, stun people and so on.

    They're both fun games though, you won't go wrong with either one imo.

     

    *edit because I forgot to mention the Bot matches. LoL has a good range of bot AI, the easy is very easy and helps easy players into the game. Intermediate poses enough of a challenge that you can learn some decent tactics while still having fun.

    Dota has horrible AI, easy bots are basically morons. And the hard bots give you absolutely zero room for error - and hard mode bots are significantly more difficult than playing against real people. I'm not joking, you can play against an organized team on ventrilo and it will be more fun and easier than playing against hard bots in dota.

  • MajinashMajinash Member Posts: 1,320
    Originally posted by napprog

     but wont go through the trouble or money for DOTA;s

     

    I'm a bit confused about this.  What trouble or money?  The game is in "open" beta now, so its just free with steam, don't even need a key (which were also free).  And money?  All the heroes are unlocked, don't know why money would be an issue.

     

    I really got into MOBAs with smite, which means you having played that is already your gateway into the genre.  Try Dota, LoL and HoN.  play 10 hours of each and see which is to your liking, no need to constrain yourself to just one.

    Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,102
    I'd suggest (Asuryan help me!) LoL. It just suits me greatly. I can go all the way to Platinum in lol(1900+MMR) while I can't even scratch Silver 3 in DoTA/HoN(1500 MMR). DoTA and HoN are so horribly clicky clicky and ADHD oriented. I simply can't and won't play such PoS. Not to mention that both of them lack good approchable Draft pick mode(when compared to lol that is!).

    How about Smite? I am about to try that one because the Heavy emphasis on APM in HoN/DoTA just drove me crazy. LoL, otoh, I am finished with that one. Deleted my accounts and vaya con dios.

    I wouldn't recommend either DoTA or HoN! Their gameplay is extremely antiquated(right from the year 2007!) and I can't stand that. Rather take LoL or Smite...
  • Gabriel-KnightGabriel-Knight Member UncommonPosts: 89

    Played DotA for many years, and switched to HoN when it became F2P. I also played a little LoL, and some other more rare games in the genre, i don't even remember their names.

     

    If you want a rewarding game, in which skill really counts, then i suggest HoN. There are so many factors to make your game improve, that it will take years for you to master.

    Sadly, this is too a factor that drives away many players, as the learning curve can be pretty frustrating. It depends a lot in your playing style.

     

    LoL, on the other hand, is more noob friendly and "relaxed", in a way - in HoN you must be on your toes at all times, it's 15-60 minutes of gaming-adrenaline.

     

    DOTA2 is like the original DotA but with the cool stuff that made HoN popular - mmr, shop, etc. Personally, i didn't like it, because after many years of HoN, DotA feels EXTREMELY slow, it's like playing underwater. The game i think it's pretty decent though, can't comment much on this. I do know that the latest heroes in the original DotA were terribad. :3

     

    Again, depends a lot in your playing style tbh. I prefer HoN without a doubt, currently in 1830mmr, in the latin american server, and it's very fun.

     

    Btw, i suggest to check Panzar, a hidden PvP game with a different approach, look this thread.

  • XxGrimmxXXxGrimmxX Member UncommonPosts: 223

    League all the way.

     

  • KalendosKalendos Member CommonPosts: 7
    Forge > Panzar
  • DiSpLiFFDiSpLiFF Member UncommonPosts: 602

    Can't go wrong with League of Legends. You don't need to buy anything but it's there if you want to. My only complaint which applies to all MOBA's is that games can go pretty long sometimes. I've been stuck in a 2 hour game when I only wanted to play max an hour. 

     

    Like all online games with real players it can get competitive. Which basically means you'll get bitched out at some point, but take it with a grain of salt. 

  • ZorlofeZorlofe Member UncommonPosts: 213
    I love LoL but most of the community there is a bunch of elitist jerks who think they are better than everyone else. I've found Smite to be more bearable, has more match modes, and moves like an FPS. DoTA 2 just didn't do it for me and I don't know anything about the other game you're referring to.
  • Ex0dUs101Ex0dUs101 Member UncommonPosts: 269

    Dont play either. Get Smite.

    Community is great, game is a lot of fun, and much more varied options for game modes so its easier to find a way of fitting in!

  • DangerNobuoDangerNobuo Member UncommonPosts: 96

    If you want an easy time where you won't be challenged to learn thousands of game mechanics go with SMITE or League of Legends.

    If you think you can handle an advanced level of skill and challenge go with Heroes of Newerth or Dota 2.

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