as sub game I would say WoW is the best, followed by EvE, then Rift.as f2p it's more hard to tell what is the best, they often split by category, so better to see review, IMO.about GW2: it's good for console game, for MMO it's not worth to pay 60$ to be bored within max 3 months, IMO for sure, but I guess it wiser to try free to download non-sub games like Aion, Tera, LotRO, Vanguard, DDO: even if you don't like them it free to try.I think GW2 need to be stabilized (not change gameplay every like 1-2 months), get larger and cost less, so I would suggest to start it in 1 year from now. Sure it's just an advise, all choice is up to every one.
Heck, three months of entertaijment for 60 bucks is a very good deal nowdays.
I agree with most except that Rift looks like it has dropped off pretty significantly this last year. Just checking Xfire (yeah I know) Lotro has a 4 to 1 player advantage over it.
Originally posted by Eir_S This just in: GW2 is still popular, same people still upset by it.
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Originally posted by Eir_S This just in: GW2 is still popular, same people still upset by it.
yeah, I lolled quite hard at reading some of the posts by how much the same people I've seen wanting GW2 to fail, to still can't handle it STILL being popular.
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Originally posted by Malacth Popular in terms of western players players -
1.) World of Warcraft (9+ million active players.)
2.) Guild (2+ million active players.)
3.) Eve (500k+ active players.)
4.) Rift (100k+ active players.)
5.) The Secret World (50k+ players.)
I've only bothered to mention games I actually like/play, but that's probably very similar to the actual list anyway.
sorry to asking: but how do you know how many players are active at GW2? I think this game is over hype again and show wrong statistic, as to me 2 mil copies sold is not = 2 mil of active users.
Well it's sold 3+ million copies, and growing in sales every month, so I'm assuming it's around the 2million active players mark, maybe 1-2million, but still no less than 1million active players, my guess though is very close to 2million. (by active I mean someone who has played their account in the last month.)
Maybe you should replace the "western" with "global", because otherwise your numbers are complete nonsense in case of WoW and EvE. But then again in a global context TSW or Rift wouldnt even make it into this list. Maybe not even EvE. And add "or so I wildly guess" behind the Rift, GW2 and TSW numbers to prevent someone might misunderstand your charts as credible data.
I'll agree with WoW, Eve and Rift.
But most, if not all, of TSW players are actually from western markets (I don't think it's even released in eastern markets?)
I don't really think it's a wild guess with GW2, having sold over 3 million copies, and probably nearing 4 million, it probably does have 1-2million active players (someone who has played in the last month.)
So, yeah.
Ok, I'm a big GW2 fan and all, but you can't deny that your numbers are nothing but wild guesses and estimations. I think you recognize that too, which is why you stretched the definition of an "active player" out so far. While the definition of "active player" is ambiguous to be sure, nobody would define it for a non-sub game as having logged in once in the last month. 1 login in the last month isn't getting Anet any money. A much more realistic, albeit still ambiguous, definition of "active" player would be someone who averages "a few" logins per week over the past month. For example, maybe a player hasn't played at all last week, but logged on 5 times last week and only once the week before. This player is at least "still around" and must be considered active, although he maintains the bare minimum level of activity.
Anyway...
Unfortunately there's absolutely no way to know how many players log on to GW2 daily, or weekly, or concurrently at any given time. I'm sure Anet has this info, but they (nor any other company) are not transparent with it.
That said, I think 2 million players logging in at least a couple times a week on average would be a huge overestimation. What do I think the exact numbers are? Beats me. Beats you too. That's my point. You need something more concrete than "hmm well that sounds about right to me" when coming up with numbers.
Finally actual proof of what I've been saying since Xfire was launched...Thier numbers mean nothing. More people play WoW than all the other games on that list combined, but not if you go by Xfire numbers hehe.
also for gw2 you will never know active players unless anet directly releases that info as there is no monthly sub to track so any person who bought the box could log in at any given time.. same could be said for TSW and Tera and any other f2p/b2p game though
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Finally actual proof of what I've been saying since Xfire was launched...Thier numbers mean nothing. More people play WoW than all the other games on that list combined, but not if you go by Xfire numbers hehe.
Originally posted by Gravarg Finally actual proof of what I've been saying since Xfire was launched...Thier numbers mean nothing. More people play WoW than all the other games on that list combined, but not if you go by Xfire numbers hehe.
t League of Legends has been a more popular game then WoW for quite some time.
WoW is not even the biggest MMORPG by active players. Age of Wushu has more then 20 millions players in China alone.
And why do people care so much about popular? Only GW2 would be considered a very good game of those top 5......Also if TSW is so popular why is the company gutting its staff and barely in business??
Originally posted by Eir_S This just in: GW2 is still popular, same people still upset by it.
only upset about spending my 60$ on game not worth any better most of A+++ FREE games.
I noticed a lot of players from Asia since like last December, even chat time to time turns into hieroglyphs. So you, guys, are wrong about NA + EU markets only.
try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises. Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2
Originally posted by Eir_S This just in: GW2 is still popular, same people still upset by it.
only upset about spending my 60$ on game not worth any better most of A+++ FREE games.
I noticed a lot of players from Asia since like last December, even chat time to time turns into hieroglyphs. So you, guys, are wrong about NA + EU markets only.
I helped a new guy out yesterday who said he is in Taiwan.
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Heck, three months of entertaijment for 60 bucks is a very good deal nowdays.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
yeah, I lolled quite hard at reading some of the posts by how much the same people I've seen wanting GW2 to fail, to still can't handle it STILL being popular.
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Ok, I'm a big GW2 fan and all, but you can't deny that your numbers are nothing but wild guesses and estimations. I think you recognize that too, which is why you stretched the definition of an "active player" out so far. While the definition of "active player" is ambiguous to be sure, nobody would define it for a non-sub game as having logged in once in the last month. 1 login in the last month isn't getting Anet any money. A much more realistic, albeit still ambiguous, definition of "active" player would be someone who averages "a few" logins per week over the past month. For example, maybe a player hasn't played at all last week, but logged on 5 times last week and only once the week before. This player is at least "still around" and must be considered active, although he maintains the bare minimum level of activity.
Anyway...
Unfortunately there's absolutely no way to know how many players log on to GW2 daily, or weekly, or concurrently at any given time. I'm sure Anet has this info, but they (nor any other company) are not transparent with it.
That said, I think 2 million players logging in at least a couple times a week on average would be a huge overestimation. What do I think the exact numbers are? Beats me. Beats you too. That's my point. You need something more concrete than "hmm well that sounds about right to me" when coming up with numbers.
Finally actual proof of what I've been saying since Xfire was launched...Thier numbers mean nothing. More people play WoW than all the other games on that list combined, but not if you go by Xfire numbers hehe.
rimshot.
EDIT: Forgot top five.
According to this site, Pirates 101 is the most popular. Dont know about 2 through 5.
Actually, no it isn't.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
didn't maple story have like 92 million people(even if only a quarter is actual unique accounts still a lot) worldwide playing like only a few years ago http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/05/09/maplestory-announces-over-92-million-users-worldwide-4-year-ann/.. did they all drop off?
also for gw2 you will never know active players unless anet directly releases that info as there is no monthly sub to track so any person who bought the box could log in at any given time.. same could be said for TSW and Tera and any other f2p/b2p game though
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Sure...
https://majorleagueoflegends.s3.amazonaws.com/lol_infographic.png
http://www.dotacinema.com/news/dota-2-reaches-3-million(beta)
Is League of Legends that really fun to play? I only tried once and did not like that much.
all time?
1. Tetris
2. Super Mario
3. Pong
4. Zelda
5. Metroid
Secrets of Dragon?s Spine Trailer.. !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwT9cFVQCMw
Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc&t=21s
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The Return of ELITE !
I just knew OP should have been more specific in the title. I loved all those too by the way.. except Pong. Not quite old enough for that.
t League of Legends has been a more popular game then WoW for quite some time.
WoW is not even the biggest MMORPG by active players. Age of Wushu has more then 20 millions players in China alone.
So you count eastern players for Warcraft in your "terms of western players"?
If Warcraft has anywhere near 3 million western players, I would be surprised.
And why do people care so much about popular? Only GW2 would be considered a very good game of those top 5......Also if TSW is so popular why is the company gutting its staff and barely in business??
league of legends for me
playerbase is expanding exponentially imho
There are people who play games and then there are gamers.
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1) LoL
2) LoL
3) LoL
4) LoL
5) LoL
Not a single western game comes even close to it in popularity.
I thought he was refering to MMO's tbh
Originally posted by slickbizzle
So you count eastern players for Warcraft in your "terms of western players"?
If Warcraft has anywhere near 3 million western players, I would be surprised.
Okay, I failed and gave global numbers when I said western.
Still, the list is exactly the same in western countries, except with lesser numbers, so yeah, both your posts were irrelevent.
only upset about spending my 60$ on game not worth any better most of A+++ FREE games.
I noticed a lot of players from Asia since like last December, even chat time to time turns into hieroglyphs.
So you, guys, are wrong about NA + EU markets only.
try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises.
Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2
Yeah I know right? Why the hell are people bringing up LoL at all?
I helped a new guy out yesterday who said he is in Taiwan.