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3 million copies sold since august general consensus so far

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  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by Jean_Luc_Picard
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    X-Fire again?  lol  Who even uses it?

    People who need meaningless numbers to bash a game... people who don't care about logic, since logic wouldn't allow them to reach their goal... that kind of people, you see what I mean? ;-)

    It's not a reliable source of "numbers", and it never has been.  Not for any game.  Apart from that, the program isn't even that well made.  I had it installed for a very short time before I wanted its unsightly presence removed from my pc. 

    The best numbers to judge GW2's success is still 3 million.  People will balk and cry "retention", but the solid facts are that there are plenty of people playing the game, and it's following GW1 into the best seller list.  Again, who cares about shitty X-Fire?

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Ha.  I didn't even know that...... well that explains a few things by itself.
  • superniceguysuperniceguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,278

    I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.

    If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.

    22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it

    3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.

    Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is

     

     

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Jean_Luc_Picard

    This January, there's only 30.000 xfire users (*) left, still 10% playing WoW for 5 hours a day... which makes 3.000 people playing 15.000 hours.

    Does this mean WoW's population dropped by 40%?

    Of course not. There's still 10% of xfire users playing WoW. WoW's population didn't change.

    And that's not the only parameter... specially for people playing MMORPGs, who don't really need stuff like xfire.

    beyond your example,  this actually happened

     

    Xfire WOW Jan 2012 players - 20,600

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3269838728

    Xfire WOW Jan 2013 players - 5,600

    http://beta.xfire.com/games/wow

     

    Xfire is not a good tool for predicting population trends

  • mikahrmikahr Member Posts: 1,066
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Jean_Luc_Picard

    This January, there's only 30.000 xfire users (*) left, still 10% playing WoW for 5 hours a day... which makes 3.000 people playing 15.000 hours.

    Does this mean WoW's population dropped by 40%?

    Of course not. There's still 10% of xfire users playing WoW. WoW's population didn't change.

    And that's not the only parameter... specially for people playing MMORPGs, who don't really need stuff like xfire.

    beyond your example,  this actually happened

     

    Xfire WOW Jan 2012 players - 20,600

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3269838728

    Xfire WOW Jan 2013 players - 5,600

    http://beta.xfire.com/games/wow

     

    Xfire is not a good tool for predicting population trends

    Was there a patch or maintenance in WoW on Jan 11th?

    Was Jan 6th sunday?

    Was Dec 30 sunday?

    Was Dec 23 sunday?

    Dec 16?

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.

    If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.

    22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it

    3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.

    Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is

     

     

    GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.

    Currently playing: GW2
    Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

  • superniceguysuperniceguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,278
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.

    If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.

    22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it

    3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.

    Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is

     

     

    GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.

    Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.

    On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release

    Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.

    If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.

    22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it

    3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.

    Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is

     

     

    GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.

    Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.

    On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release

    Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure

    You mean 3000 players?

    Or 2/3 of WoW population?

    Or 20% of 3 millions?

     

    Currently playing: GW2
    Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

  • superniceguysuperniceguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,278
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.

    If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.

    22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it

    3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.

    Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is

     

     

    GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.

    Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.

    On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release

    Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure

    You mean 3000 players?

    Or 2/3 of WoW population?

    Or 20% of 3 millions?

     

    You obviosuly do not know how to read it

    It certainly does not have 3000 players, and if you think that is what we are saying then no wonder you think it is not any good

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.

    If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.

    22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it

    3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.

    Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is

     

     

    GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.

    Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.

    On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release

    Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure

    You mean 3000 players?

    Or 2/3 of WoW population?

    Or 20% of 3 millions?

     

    You obviosuly do not know how to read it

    It certainly does not have 3000 players, and if you think that is what we are saying then no wonder you think it is not any good

    So do you have a number (or a range) or is your number "not 3 millions"?

    And if you have a number what is your base to derive it?

     

    Currently playing: GW2
    Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

  • IPolygonIPolygon Member UncommonPosts: 707
    Impressive, you are still arguing about xfire numbers and how they correlate to official numbers, although it is irrelevant.
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