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can i complete inferno without using rmah
hi guys, i jst dinged 60 on my wiz a couple of hours ago, completed hell and nw im doing inferno. I do not intend on using rmah or the gold auction house to buy gear, prefer do it the old school way by means of my own effort in game. I know this sounds stupid but how long will it take for me to get a good enough gear to hopefully complete inferno without any major problem?
Most of the time im joining a public game instead of single player mode and it brings me to another set of question, does solo have better loot drop than multiplayer or isit just the same?
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You can most definitely do so. Keep in mind all the stuff on the RMAH has been found by actual players.
You can get the required gear relatively quick from the regular AH. I think the RMAH is mostly for rich people who are too lazy to actually play the game, and players taking advantage of the former.
They have nerfed the game and removed gear blocks several times, most significantly when monster power was introduced, act1 can be completed in sub60 gear and as far as gah is concerned, you can find gear there that will enable you to complete act4 even for 1-2m total.
Some blokes even made a video how they survive MP10 in gear from a 1m budget (but it takes long to kill anything) on a cm wizzard.
As of finding it yourself, be prepared to be constantly disappointed, this was one thing that got the hardest hit from the requirement that gear is very random due to the auction houses.
Flame on!
Its not about the perfect set, dont pretend to be dense, these are not battle.net forums, its about the equivalent of 20% attack speed, 2 resist gloves in d2, the effort and chance is incomparable, because this expectation has bloated due to several factors to mainstat+vit+allres+ias+(crit damage or chance, or both) and the chance has dropped due to much more affixes being a possibility for a gear piece.
And keep in mind it was a long way till more than the hardcore ones were able to complete inferno without the ah, it came just with the monster power update.
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i did it when it was harder....it took a bit to gear up...it was mostly farm over and over act 1.
Because the other acts were insane....But when i finally geared up i was able to end the other acts....But it was always solo or max 1 friend...With pugs or full parties it was impossible.
Gold ah actually has more high end stuff than rmah.
however, i do use rmah, primarily because the transactional cost is lower. For expensive item, the $1 blizz charge is often lower than a15% gold charge.
i never put money into the game thoug. In fact, i made a small amount. I still have a $40+ and i use d3 money to buy mop.
Whats this?
"Random is the same as in d2" didnt work out, so we try "you dont need this to finish the game" (which noone claimed you do) and "people expect perfect gear" (which again noone claimed you do, neither of my examples is), with a little of "billions of specs are much better" thrown in for flavor?
Flame on!
You can do it just fine on your own. How long it takes will depend on how lucky you are with drops. You'll generally have to grind out a few good elite mobs and hopefully get some decent drops. Don't be afraid to use vendors, because there are a few that seem to sell better than level items.
Lastly, crafting is a great way to "gamble" for some good stuff, so make sure you are melting the crap items you find rather than vendoring them.
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Ive never used the RMAH. You can do inferno MP 1-3 with cheap gear. The rest will come as you farm your paragon levels up.
Using the RMAH is just a shortcut. Play long enough and learn whats valuable for other classes and youll have enough gold to get what you want.
Its not the same, it was even said so by a official post (for those of us that are slower
), i guess that is where you were not present.
And again noone claimed anything about completing the game, i just claimed that it will be a depressing experience the way drops are designed, and it was even a more depressing experience when inferno was harder and it was much more important to have ok gear.
The simple difference is that there are more affixes to look for per gear piece and more possible affixes per gear piece, and they have already cut some possibilities for ilvl63 gear.
I am not quite sure the loot frequency even compensates for that yet.
Flame on!
The game is definitely hard. In fact, the fun is to move up MP when you find a new better way to play (new builds), or when you upgrade.
Don't equate using RMAH as putting money into the game or a short cut.
I use RMAH to SELL and buy. The reason? Transaction cost is LOWER for expensive items. And to hedge against gold inflation. I never have to put money into the RMAH, and maintain a positive balance (i.e i made money, however small, of the game).
Gold prices has been plummeting for a whle now from i think a high of $0.50 a million to now ~$0.25 a million. If i have money in the game that i would like to hold for a while (or save up for an upgrade), i would much rather doing it in RMAH, instead in the gold AH.
I use the gold AH for cheaper items that the fix $1 fee in the RMAH is higher than 15%.
Wierd, they do seem to say that
May be im just reading too much into it, maybe not, but says nothing about inferno
When the game was first released, there were no enrage timers, and it might have been before "we doubled it" (and i am in no way saying you cannot beat butcher with a 492 dps weapon).
And this is just for fun, "we didnt really test this"
And jay in now way adresses affixes or loot quality, hes basically answering "do loot tables have more items in them?" (and d2 will win that one always, with its "loot trees" incorporating basically every item in the game for a 85+ monster), it is again player asks A, developer answers B.
I dunno, maybe they are just bad at PR, but i doubt it, i dont think they dont realize what they are dealing with on battle.net forums, so they must be fogging intentionally.
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That is correct. The reason is that RMAH is limited to $250 ... which is equivalent to around $1B and there are items that worth more.
Secondly, it also don't worth it to use RMAH to do anything that worth less than 5-10M .. so the gAH is a much deeper market.
using Real money in Diablo is merly an option, and probably not an option that many people even bother with, you need authenticators and secure paypal accounts and thats before you consider the tax. Its a lot of faphing around.
So, the answer is yes, of course, you can easily completly inferno without using the Auction. It just comes down to how much time you have available and how much time it will take for you to grow tired of farming.
In all honesty, there is no additional entertainment or fun to be got from using self found gear. Not in softcore anyway. you can pick up absoloutly amazing gear for peanuts. There isnt much point in adding several weeks worth of farming time just to save a hundred k
What else are you going to do with your money? Craft?... not likley.
I completed inferno without buying anything from either auction house. I took several runs thru act 2 and act 3 on inferno before I completed act 4. I always joined a public game and I think I was largely able to complete the acts without much trouble because I had 1 or 2 uber players in the group that carried most of the weight.
In fact, i found as much joy as selling an item for big bucks (gAH RMAH) or finding an affordable upgrade. When you get to the next upgrade is in the 100M gold (or roughly $25 range), it will take months before you find it in a drop.
Typically when i farm (gold & loot), i do MP6 act 3 .. but not siegebreaker. I don't find boss has any loot advantage. It is much easier just set the quest to the end of act 3, and then do crossing, bridge, stonefort (when u have 5NV for key), keep 1-3, crate 1-2, and sometimes i run some of the towers too.
The trick is to do the parts with high mob density. I use to run siegebreaker .. but don't find much reason to do so.