I still wonder what makes you guys want to buy bag space. With the crafted bags and the "send all to bank" system for crafting mats, I never ran out of bag space during any of the beta week ends.
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Originally posted by fat_taddler If you enjoy playing GW2, don't forget to throw ANet a bone once in a while via the cash shop. It's important that we as players do our best to support the developers who deliver products we enjoy.
I've budgeted for a cash shop allowance seen as I'm not paying subs anywhere anyways
Not much I want from the cash shop though... I guess it'll be dyes galore!
This and maybe mini pets / city clothing and mystic keys!
BTW is there a account to add funds too via paypal or something for the Trading Post?
If you enjoy playing GW2, don't forget to throw ANet a bone once in a while via the cash shop.
It's important that we as players do our best to support the developers who deliver products we enjoy.
I bought them game ages ago they had support from me in advance, it's down to these guys now and if they prove to be good then who knows...But I do not play on just throwing money at this game until I've had a good look and got to a far higher level than I did in Beta, infact they should of been paying us not the other way round. I'm not trying to be rude to you OP but I have better things to do with my money than randomly throwing it at their cash shop. They will make money from us based on box sales and if that was not enough they wouldn't of bothered building this game in the first place. They will not be giving away DLC or expansions so it's down to them now, let make sure the game does what they said it will before we start throwing RL $$$ or £££ at em ok.
I've already pre-purchased $40 in gems, to "make my own Deluxe Edition" package and plan on spending $10-$20 a month on an ongoing basis, in order to support Arenanet and ongoing development for the game. It's nice, though, to know that if I need or want to skip it for any reason, it won't effect my ability to keep playing the game. I also appreciate that there is nothing in the shop I need to buy to fully enjoy the game.
Naaa ill leave the spending to others I already spend 15 quid on a sub for another MMO I will also be playing, so you guys can buy stuff and support them, I already bought the game thats it :P
I pay a significant amount of my wages in tax to 'help' those who can't be bothered to work. I pay VAT on everything i buy on top of that. In fact, i get ripped off on a daily basis in the UK. Chances are the box is already more expensive here than the rest of planet Earth.
So, as for giving a company extra money after i have bought their product, on the off chance they messed up their business plan. Nah. In fact, my role here is to get the most entertainment for the smallest expense possible, as any company worth their salt will make it their priority to get most profit from their product. If a company comes across sweating blood for their customers, it is because they genuinely want it to become a 'financial' success. The longer it keeps running, the longer they keep their jobs and overtime.
If they can't deliver a product customers enjoy, that's not our responsibility. I won't get a supermodel to sit on my face just because i tried really hard. The fact is i would be trying hard to get her to sit on my face, so it would be a selfish act...just like a company trying really hard to make a good product, it's not so they can cure disease with profit margins.
So given the choice, i would kick them in the nuts and run away with a free copy and the shirt off their backs.
Man, i swear i've only had 3 cans, nothing on TV though and GW2 isn't out yet
No. Just No. Cash shops are bad. Much as I love the game, companies shouldnt depend on cash shops because they are evil.
Thankfully, from what I have seen so far, all the cash shop items are cosmetic/fluff items so its not a gamebreaker, but I will still never buy anything from any cash shop.
If they wanted more money, they could have charged a sub of like $3 per month
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
No. Just No. Cash shops are bad. Much as I love the game, companies shouldnt depend on cash shops because they are evil.
Thankfully, from what I have seen so far, all the cash shop items are cosmetic/fluff items so its not a gamebreaker, but I will still never buy anything from any cash shop.
If they wanted more money, they could have charged a sub of like $3 per month
for me I prefer options.. like you said nothing major is in the cash shop to make a big fuss about.. but i think its nice to give the players that option.. especially in a B2P game
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Originally posted by Raven Naaa ill leave the spending to others I already spend 15 quid on a sub for another MMO I will also be playing, so you guys can buy stuff and support them, I already bought the game thats it :P
I remember when I got League of Legends (store boxed copy) thinking , "why would I ever buy anything from the in game store? I already got a gaggle of champs and who cares if they don't have additional skins." Then after a couple months it was "well, that sweet Singed skin is on sale and it'll only cost me $10. That's all I'll ever need."
A few years later and $70 poorer has taught me to never say I won't be sucked in by cash shops.
The game costs $60, expansions/dlc also cost money... How are we not supporting them again? Did I accidentally walk into some alternate dimension where free to play games don't exist?
They're beginning to put crap that was in GW1 into the cash shop, like reading glasses. Hell, they even made dyes character unlock instead of account unlock and people are still ignoring the purchase price?! In a free to play game I can make as many characters as I want and not pay a damn dime. In GW2 you pay $60 and they want you to pay $8 more bucks to get more character slots.
The game costs $60, expansions/dlc also cost money... How are we not supporting them again? Did I accidentally walk into some alternate dimension where free to play games don't exist?
They're beginning to put crap that was in GW1 into the cash shop, like reading glasses. Hell, they even made dyes character unlock instead of account unlock and people are still ignoring the purchase price?! In a free to play game I can make as many characters as I want and not pay a damn dime. In GW2 you pay $60 and they want you to pay $8 more bucks to get more character slots.
You are forgetting that the quality of GW2 far surpasses that of those f2p games. Also, the $60 is to cover the initial cash invested by NCsoft on developing the game. If you don't support the game after that how are they going to get the funds to pay their employees, server maintanances, security, hardware and other expenses?
You are forgetting that the quality of GW2 far surpasses that of those f2p games. Also, the $60 is to cover the initial cash invested by NCsoft on developing the game. If you don't support the game after that how are they going to get the funds to pay their employees, server maintanances, security, hardware and other expenses?
From Arenanet's own calculations, they don't NEED the cash shop money to run the servers. Just selling boxes should cover it. The cash shop is more for profitability. That's what the subs are in MMOs, mostly just pure profit.
... but of course, they'd like to make a profit. It'll make Arenanet happy. It'll make NCSoft happy. It'll make the stockholders happy.
Hopefully they just pass a decent portion of that down into more content.
I would consider RIFT to apparently be a good example of this (They're constantly adding stuff. I don't play, but they at least keep adding things)
I would consider WoW to be a bad example of this (They're making enough money to make an obscene profit AND create a whole new WoW's worth of content every couple months, for free.)
Wow, i've never seen someone get milked so much while being happy about it!
Damn P2P MMOs, so much greed... or not.
CS MMOs always end up being more expensive that P2P MMOs, Arenanet are really geniuses, they get people to spend more while making them believe that everyone else are greedy bastards.
EA, learn some PR from arenanet, we have people here spending 200$+ dollars on things that are free on every other game.
I really don't get this. If he or she has the money to spend and wants to do so of their own volition I don't see it as them being milked or suckered. All the more power to them. I mean someone has to take up the flak for cheap fuckers like me :P
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
ill probably buy a pair of glasses at some point .. but idk ..
these cash shops just irk the crap out of me.
been playing VG, i've had a sub on and off for years.
now there is a 60 slot backpack (level 15 crafters can make 16 slot bags if they work really hard at it) that gives a 20% speed boost (unobtainable in game for the most part .. I think there are boots at some point, but ... )
they cost $9/ character. The beauty of VG is that I honestly (if there was a population) would probably play all 15 classes .. but honestly .. i'll just buy another game instead of paying $135 ...
I also love the diplo and crafting in the game and its another $9 per sphere, so $18 per character.
of course these things arent necessary .. but .. highly, HIGHLY sought after.
and I realize GW2 doesn't have 60 slot run speed bags for $9 .. they seem to have a better cash shop ..
so i'll just buy gems with ingame gold, thanks.
the kick of it is, I would pay a $5 sub or so for the ability to be able to buy cash shop items for in game money (everyone else could still play for free and buy cash shop items for $$ .. fine with me)
so I might on occasion throw them a bone .. but we'll see.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity. I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
I plan on buying the red GW2 hat from the store when I get in game. There...I'm supporting them.
>_>
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
You are forgetting that the quality of GW2 far surpasses that of those f2p games. Also, the $60 is to cover the initial cash invested by NCsoft on developing the game. If you don't support the game after that how are they going to get the funds to pay their employees, server maintanances, security, hardware and other expenses?
From Arenanet's own calculations, they don't NEED the cash shop money to run the servers. Just selling boxes should cover it. The cash shop is more for profitability. That's what the subs are in MMOs, mostly just pure profit.
... but of course, they'd like to make a profit. It'll make Arenanet happy. It'll make NCSoft happy. It'll make the stockholders happy.
Hopefully they just pass a decent portion of that down into more content.
I would consider RIFT to apparently be a good example of this (They're constantly adding stuff. I don't play, but they at least keep adding things)
I would consider WoW to be a bad example of this (They're making enough money to make an obscene profit AND create a whole new WoW's worth of content every couple months, for free.)
From Arenanet's own calculations? Do you have a citation for that? You do understand that people do need raises, healthcare programs, etc? You must be living in a fairy tale world :P. You can't seriously say that ArenaNet calculated every form of risk factor the company could face, there are tons of unexpected costs associated with any business. I intend to support ArenaNet in the long run with my wallet .
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Same here.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
Respect, walk
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This and maybe mini pets / city clothing and mystic keys!
BTW is there a account to add funds too via paypal or something for the Trading Post?
I wonder if there is a way to have may paycheck direct deposited into the Anet cash shop so I can support them even more!!
I bought them game ages ago they had support from me in advance, it's down to these guys now and if they prove to be good then who knows...But I do not play on just throwing money at this game until I've had a good look and got to a far higher level than I did in Beta, infact they should of been paying us not the other way round. I'm not trying to be rude to you OP but I have better things to do with my money than randomly throwing it at their cash shop. They will make money from us based on box sales and if that was not enough they wouldn't of bothered building this game in the first place. They will not be giving away DLC or expansions so it's down to them now, let make sure the game does what they said it will before we start throwing RL $$$ or £££ at em ok.
Bandit
Asbo
You mean I didn't support them by paying the same price for a digital download that I would have if I purchased in a store?
They won't be charging for each expansion like they did for GW?
They don't need cash shop purchases for support, it's for added revenue.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
I pay a significant amount of my wages in tax to 'help' those who can't be bothered to work. I pay VAT on everything i buy on top of that. In fact, i get ripped off on a daily basis in the UK. Chances are the box is already more expensive here than the rest of planet Earth.
So, as for giving a company extra money after i have bought their product, on the off chance they messed up their business plan. Nah. In fact, my role here is to get the most entertainment for the smallest expense possible, as any company worth their salt will make it their priority to get most profit from their product. If a company comes across sweating blood for their customers, it is because they genuinely want it to become a 'financial' success. The longer it keeps running, the longer they keep their jobs and overtime.
If they can't deliver a product customers enjoy, that's not our responsibility. I won't get a supermodel to sit on my face just because i tried really hard. The fact is i would be trying hard to get her to sit on my face, so it would be a selfish act...just like a company trying really hard to make a good product, it's not so they can cure disease with profit margins.
So given the choice, i would kick them in the nuts and run away with a free copy and the shirt off their backs.
Man, i swear i've only had 3 cans, nothing on TV though and GW2 isn't out yet
No. Just No. Cash shops are bad. Much as I love the game, companies shouldnt depend on cash shops because they are evil.
Thankfully, from what I have seen so far, all the cash shop items are cosmetic/fluff items so its not a gamebreaker, but I will still never buy anything from any cash shop.
If they wanted more money, they could have charged a sub of like $3 per month
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
for me I prefer options.. like you said nothing major is in the cash shop to make a big fuss about.. but i think its nice to give the players that option.. especially in a B2P game
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Well said cockney la!!!
Asbo
I remember when I got League of Legends (store boxed copy) thinking , "why would I ever buy anything from the in game store? I already got a gaggle of champs and who cares if they don't have additional skins." Then after a couple months it was "well, that sweet Singed skin is on sale and it'll only cost me $10. That's all I'll ever need."
A few years later and $70 poorer has taught me to never say I won't be sucked in by cash shops.
i support games that dont limit my gameplay experience and are not pay to win. Serious developers deserve support.
ARENANET has my support. I hope they keep their serious business away from "The Greed" that plagued most mmos (both sub and non sub)
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The game costs $60, expansions/dlc also cost money... How are we not supporting them again? Did I accidentally walk into some alternate dimension where free to play games don't exist?
They're beginning to put crap that was in GW1 into the cash shop, like reading glasses. Hell, they even made dyes character unlock instead of account unlock and people are still ignoring the purchase price?! In a free to play game I can make as many characters as I want and not pay a damn dime. In GW2 you pay $60 and they want you to pay $8 more bucks to get more character slots.
You are forgetting that the quality of GW2 far surpasses that of those f2p games. Also, the $60 is to cover the initial cash invested by NCsoft on developing the game. If you don't support the game after that how are they going to get the funds to pay their employees, server maintanances, security, hardware and other expenses?
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From Arenanet's own calculations, they don't NEED the cash shop money to run the servers. Just selling boxes should cover it. The cash shop is more for profitability. That's what the subs are in MMOs, mostly just pure profit.
... but of course, they'd like to make a profit. It'll make Arenanet happy. It'll make NCSoft happy. It'll make the stockholders happy.
Hopefully they just pass a decent portion of that down into more content.
I would consider RIFT to apparently be a good example of this (They're constantly adding stuff. I don't play, but they at least keep adding things)
I would consider WoW to be a bad example of this (They're making enough money to make an obscene profit AND create a whole new WoW's worth of content every couple months, for free.)
I really don't get this. If he or she has the money to spend and wants to do so of their own volition I don't see it as them being milked or suckered. All the more power to them. I mean someone has to take up the flak for cheap fuckers like me :P
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
ill probably buy a pair of glasses at some point .. but idk ..
these cash shops just irk the crap out of me.
been playing VG, i've had a sub on and off for years.
now there is a 60 slot backpack (level 15 crafters can make 16 slot bags if they work really hard at it) that gives a 20% speed boost (unobtainable in game for the most part .. I think there are boots at some point, but ... )
they cost $9/ character. The beauty of VG is that I honestly (if there was a population) would probably play all 15 classes .. but honestly .. i'll just buy another game instead of paying $135 ...
I also love the diplo and crafting in the game and its another $9 per sphere, so $18 per character.
of course these things arent necessary .. but .. highly, HIGHLY sought after.
and I realize GW2 doesn't have 60 slot run speed bags for $9 .. they seem to have a better cash shop ..
so i'll just buy gems with ingame gold, thanks.
the kick of it is, I would pay a $5 sub or so for the ability to be able to buy cash shop items for in game money (everyone else could still play for free and buy cash shop items for $$ .. fine with me)
so I might on occasion throw them a bone .. but we'll see.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
I plan on buying the red GW2 hat from the store when I get in game. There...I'm supporting them.
>_>
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
From Arenanet's own calculations? Do you have a citation for that? You do understand that people do need raises, healthcare programs, etc? You must be living in a fairy tale world :P. You can't seriously say that ArenaNet calculated every form of risk factor the company could face, there are tons of unexpected costs associated with any business. I intend to support ArenaNet in the long run with my wallet
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