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... which one of those threads was started by an Arenanet employee? I looked a bit, but I don't know their secret account names, so I'm going to need your help on that one.
You can add all you want, I don't see how any thread here has anythign to do with Anet and their product.
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
No one likes to be proven wrong, even if it was their own fault. He's gonna keep doing this until someone either locks this thread, or until we lie and say he's right so he can stroke his virtual member about it.
What do these threads prove exactly???
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
They prove what we've been saying all along... that Anet did in fact never say that GW was an mmo. Funny... he's disproving his own point.
*popcorn*
Quoted just incased it's been missed.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Trust but verify.
Unfortuately you can't do that much verifying when something is not released. This leaves us with an aching hole in our hearts we can't quite; fill forever striving for completeness. Or at least until August 25-ish.
What a nonsence...
hahaha, true enough. My quality of life will vastly improve come August 25th... regardless of what the economy looks like!
i didnt play gw1 until about a year ago when there was something completely free to play. free trial .. free something .. i dont remember tbh as I didnt play for long because it wasn't an MMO .. which I knew it wasn't. I knew this back in 2004.
How you didn't know that is beyond me .. beyond reason. Sounds like you read a fanboy post claiming it would be the best mmo ever because anet never said anything like that and it was perfectly clear to me well before release that it wasn't a persistent world mmo, but a coop rpg.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
yeah dont trust Anet , GW2 is not a mmo, all the DE, the combat system, the W vs W are not true
the betas were a lure , actually GW2 is another fps and there are only 2 maps Ascalon and Lion's Arch but you can purchase others maps in the cash shop , if you buy Rata sum and Fort Ranik they give you for free Ring of Fires, its a good deal
Simple: Don't play GW2.
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One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
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Irregardless of whether I was wrong in my assumption back then, I was under the impression the game was to be an "MMO". I've already posted links of others thinking along the same terms and the confusion of it back in 2004.
This is MY reason why WE should not trust ANET. I know this was going to be a heated discussion, but the personal attacks and name-calling are not justified.
Goes to show you what kind of community this site has become populated with.
I won't respond until everyone calms the hell down.
This.
Please close this thread and bring out the banhammer.
The topic of this thread and the contents of the OPs post are deliberately inflammatory and just posting to try to get an argument going which is defined as trolling in the forum rules
From MMORPG.com rules of conduct
Trolling
For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated.
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
The fact that the OP thinks that linking threads on MMORPG.com is a 'credible resource' speaks volumes..
Again what does your own ignorance have to do with ArenaNet?
WoW General.
Some of the threads on the WoW site were, actually, really typical of early '05. Loads of disinformation, lots of fan vs fan, closed and deleted threads a-plenty.
Anet was quite well marketed, without spending a penny. Certainly resulted in a fair number of people "try the new MMO!" without knowing a bloody damn thing about it first.
That's just one site, of course. Its certain that pretty much the same thing was happening on a dozen others. I personally first caught wind of GW the same place I first caught wind of WoW--the CoH message boards.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Actually they never touted it as the next best thing. What they did wave around all the time was the B2P model and understandibly so. When that game came out I didn't have any income and my parents weren't going to give me any money to sub to a "game" so GW1 was an excellent option for folks who have no income or aren't spoiled.
QFT, just looked at the back of the box and its there
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
reviewers may haved called GW a mmo but ANET did not market it like that
from their FAQ, in 2005
http://guildwars.com/support/faq/prophecies-faq.php
Is Guild Wars an MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game)?
Rather than labeling Guild Wars an MMORPG, we prefer to call it a CORPG (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game). Guild Wars was designed from the ground up to create the best possible competitive role-playing experience. Success in Guild Wars is always the result of player skill, not time spent playing or the size of one's guild. As characters progress, they acquire a diverse set of skills and items, enabling them to use new strategies in combat. Players can do battle in open arenas or compete in guild-vs-guild warfare or the international tournament. Engaging in combat is always the player's choice, however; there is no player-killing in cooperative areas of the world.
EQ2 fan sites
blah blah blah.
GW was not released expecting to end WoW...WoW wasnt massive when GW was released because GW was released a few months after WoW. Much like everything else you stated, its just plain wrong...and seeing as how the game sold 6.5 MILLION COPIES...its time for you to go away because the players did speak, they loved it and made it the second highest selling MMORPG of all time.
This
Believing GW was a MMO was complete fault on your part. I paid attention to GW1 from the get go and still remember when guilds had bibs instead of capes. Having paid proper attention to the game pre-release, I can assure you Anet never called it a MMO and went far out of their way to call it a CORPG(with a definition and all).
Don't feel bad though, thousands of people do this all the time. This see an online rpg being released and assume it's a MMO made personally for their tastes since it's online and a rpg. The latest examples I remember are DCUO and SWTOR. People just did not pay attention and expected something contrary to was the pre-release information was saying they were making/giving. Heck, DCUO was always intended to have a cash shop and then the f2p move hit and people were all 'wtf @ the cash shop' without ever considering that it was promised from the get go.
We really need separate forums for every newly launched game. There can be the anti-<MMO> one and there can be the 'what general discussion should be' one. All the lamenting can happen together where each can find solace in like minded can't-move-on-ers leaving the rest of us to actually move forward and discuss meaningful and relevant topics.
Irregardless is not a word, first off.
Second off, I will acknolwedge that there were players confused about whether GW1 was an MMORPG or not. I will also acknowledge that third parties like PCGamer and Gamespot mislabeled the game as an MMO, causing greater confusion.
Anet was not responsibile for your assumptions, and the control they have over what third parties print is little at best.
And that is the basis for my argument against you sir. not rage, not flaming, just simple, cold logic. And no point did anytthing created by Anet refer to the game as an MMORPG. Nothing they had any control over ever said that. They never lied, and none of the advertising they themsleves did was false in any way. if you can find me a piece of Anet advertising (not an article in someone else's magazine, an acutal ad or statement by someone in Anet themselves) referring to GW1 as an MMORPG, then I will accept your statement. Not a chance until then.
Your move.
Irregardless is not a word, it's just regardless
We are calm buddy. Many of us are popcorn calm.
I'm going to say this once, and only once, for your own good. You've been given pleanty of ways to back out of this. Digging yourself a bigger hole is not advised.
What you don't seem to be understanding (and it's all the more clear with every one of these posts you make), is that your interpretation of GW1 (and others as well) had nothing to do with Anet or the game itself. You are essentially blaming a company, because you failed to have a realistic expectation of their product, and failed to do any sort of research before buying it.
Think about it in another context. What you are doing is not much different from the lady who blamed mc donalds for not telling her that her coffee was hot. At a certain point you need to take responsibility for your own actions. That's part of being an adult.