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Is it me or GW2 PAY 2 WIN game?

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  • MeowheadMeowhead Member UncommonPosts: 3,716
    Originally posted by negativf4kk

    I log into the game 6 month after realese. Go into shop thingy, buy Gems, sell them on AH or directly to Arenanet, buy best gear from AH, progress...... what an illussion of mmo(((( 

    Can't sell gems directly to Arenanet, only to other players.

    Also, you could just log into the game 6 months after release, go straight to Structured PvP and have the best gear without buying a single gem!  There.  I saved you some money. :)

    Also, you can't buy everything with gold.  It's true.  :(

    Not to mention if you spent enough money to buy enough crafting materials to level to 80 without playing, i figure anybody who is going to throw out a couple thousand dollars to reach max level probably deserves a medal in real life for dedication to being lazy.

    Not anything a person can't do just by playing the game normally. :)

  • negativf4kknegativf4kk Member UncommonPosts: 381
    Originally posted by Sebber
    Originally posted by negativf4kk
    Originally posted by alf2ooo
    Originally posted by negativf4kk

    buy best gear from AH, progress...... 

    [mod edit]

    u right i dont. thats why i`m asking

     

    So far as we know right now the best gear come from, dungeons and karma vendors. You can't get either from gold.

    Thanks!!! Glad to c people not jumping on a "Haters vs Fanboys Vagone"

    P.S new to this forum. And lots of topics just get flooded by either one or another.

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  • fascismfascism Member UncommonPosts: 428

    Can I use the gems I buy from other players to pay for my sub?

  • MeowheadMeowhead Member UncommonPosts: 3,716
    Originally posted by fascism

    Can I use the gems I buy from other players to pay for my sub?

    There's absolutely no sub, but you can spend gems on anything at all that they have in the cash shop.

    Cosmetic stuff, account things (Like character transfer, more character slots), and convenience (more bank space, xp boosters, though honestly, worst planned out xp boosters ever since they're not really neccessary).

  • LokbergLokberg Member Posts: 315

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/337506/Guild-Wars-2-Mass-info-for-the-uninitiated.html

    This is a really good link if you want to read up on gw2 Negativf4kk

  • SebberSebber Member Posts: 221
    Originally posted by Lokberg

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/337506/Guild-Wars-2-Mass-info-for-the-uninitiated.html

    This is a really good link if you want to read up on gw2 Negativf4kk

    Just read it here , atleast your eyes will not get hurt.

  • AdalwulffAdalwulff Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,152

    I feel sorry for anyone who dumps a ton of money into gems.

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  • negativf4kknegativf4kk Member UncommonPosts: 381
    Originally posted by Sebber
    Originally posted by Lokberg

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/337506/Guild-Wars-2-Mass-info-for-the-uninitiated.html

    This is a really good link if you want to read up on gw2 Negativf4kk

    Just read it here , atleast your eyes will not get hurt.

    Thanks. Nice info.

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  • KanethKaneth Member RarePosts: 2,286
    Originally posted by Meowhead
    Originally posted by fascism

    Can I use the gems I buy from other players to pay for my sub?

    There's absolutely no sub, but you can spend gems on anything at all that they have in the cash shop.

    Cosmetic stuff, account things (Like character transfer, more character slots), and convenience (more bank space, xp boosters, though honestly, worst planned out xp boosters ever since they're not really neccessary).

    No no no, Meowhead, the correct answer was "Yes".

    Then let him be confused at launch day.

  • KidonKidon Member UncommonPosts: 399

    This again lol

  • joeri123joeri123 Member UncommonPosts: 247

    Since you can't buy anything more powerfull with real money. No its not P2W. Who cares if you can get a lot of gold through buying gems. Its not like you need much gold for anything in the game.

    And the gold to buy the gems still has to come from players who farmed it. So there is no inflation of gold whatsoever. The gold just travels from person A -> B. 

    If it were P2W the gold would travel from  infinite cash shop supply -> players.

     

    So No.

     

    /thread

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838

    It's not just you OP. GW2's cash shop sells power, and gems for gold. Is it pay for "I win button?" No it's not. It is pay for power though no matter how you spin it.

    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,355

    If trading gems for gold is "pay to win", then is trading gold for gems "get paid to lose"?  Because all that they do is to redistribute gold (and things you can buy for gold) among the playerbase, not create new gear.

    Most likely, the game won't have that great of a dependence on gear.  Guild Wars 1 sure didn't.

  • SebberSebber Member Posts: 221
    Originally posted by bcbully

    It's not just you OP. GW2's cash shop sells power, and gems for gold. Is it pay for "I win button?" No it's not. It is pay for power though no matter how you spin it.


    Please tell me what "power" is? You said it is in the gem store, Come one, go.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    Originally posted by Sebber
    Originally posted by bcbully

    It's not just you OP. GW2's cash shop sells power, and gems for gold. Is it pay for "I win button?" No it's not. It is pay for power though no matter how you spin it.


    Please tell me what "power" is? You said it is in the gem store, Come one, go.

    Anything that makes you more capable. Things like gems ---> gold ----> gear.

     

    Will it be game breaking? No I don't think so. Is it selling of power? Yes it is.

     

     

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    ability to do or act; capability of doing or accomplishingsomething.
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    Originally posted by negativf4kk

    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Talk:Gem#Real_life_money_--.3E_in_game_money

    Looks like P2W?

    IT.........IS...........YOU!





  • SebberSebber Member Posts: 221
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by Sebber
    Originally posted by bcbully

    It's not just you OP. GW2's cash shop sells power, and gems for gold. Is it pay for "I win button?" No it's not. It is pay for power though no matter how you spin it.


    Please tell me what "power" is? You said it is in the gem store, Come one, go.

    Anything that makes you more capable. Things like gems ---> gold ----> gear.

     

    Will it be game breaking? No I don't think so. Is it selling of power? Yes it is.

     

     

    pow·er

       [pou-er]  Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    ability to do or act; capability of doing or accomplishingsomething.

    You know what, that is not in the "cash shop", you fail , thank you please come again.

  • p_c_sousap_c_sousa Member Posts: 620
    Originally posted by negativf4kk

    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Talk:Gem#Real_life_money_--.3E_in_game_money

    Looks like P2W?

    It is you. GW2 cash shop is far from be P2W....you can trade gems for gold but you cant buy any advantage with gold.

    cash shop item none give any advantage against other players

  • p_c_sousap_c_sousa Member Posts: 620
    Originally posted by citalkay

    Of course it's pay to win, and it'll just get worse as they add more pay to win options.

     

    [mod edit]

    so explain us why is P2W ...

  • p_c_sousap_c_sousa Member Posts: 620
    Originally posted by negativf4kk

    I log into the game 6 month after realese. Go into shop thingy, buy Gems, sell them on AH or directly to Arenanet, buy best gear from AH, progress...... what an illussion of mmo(((( 

    ohhh you buy the best gear? the gear anyone can easy craft? 

    you can even reach max lvl with only craft, so if you have lot of money you can buy lot of resources and reach lvl80 very quick. what money dont give you is skills, you will be dizimated on sPvP, well you will suck anywhere, on dungeons WvW...

    so if for you win is reach max lvl yes, is a P2W shop, if for you win is play great and kill other players on PvP sorry but you cant buy anything to help you

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by Sebber
    Originally posted by bcbully

    It's not just you OP. GW2's cash shop sells power, and gems for gold. Is it pay for "I win button?" No it's not. It is pay for power though no matter how you spin it.


    Please tell me what "power" is? You said it is in the gem store, Come one, go.

    Anything that makes you more capable. Things like gems ---> gold ----> gear.

     

    Will it be game breaking? No I don't think so. Is it selling of power? Yes it is.

     

     

    pow·er

       [pou-er]  Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    ability to do or act; capability of doing or accomplishingsomething.

    How are things going with the cash shop over at TSW ? What are the folks saying about the last 25% of content in the game now that some of them have past the 75% mark ? Do you think more folks will be posting on this form later this week when they have completed the TSW content ?

  • Atlan99Atlan99 Member UncommonPosts: 1,332
    Originally posted by Master10K

    I can link to. image

    So by his definition WvWvW is P2W in GW2.

    The person who uses money can buy more defenses and weapons.

  • MuridanMuridan Member Posts: 94

    I'm finding it very entertaining to see the same 9-10 posters in every GW2 thread bashing it, throwing around the term "fanboi" at anyone who likes anything about the game. Perhaps they need a cool name of their own...like "trollboi" or "angryforumtrollboi" IDK, just noticing a pattern. 

    I think people spend way too much time worrying about what other people are going to do, and not enough time focused on what they themselves will do for fun in a given game. For example people who have 20-40+ hours a week to devote to gaming are crying that it's not fair that someone with 5-10 hours a week will be able to have the same things they have because they might be able to buy some of them in a cash shop....you know what's really unfair? That anyone should have 20-40+ hours a week to devote to gaming, that's unfair, and I'm jealous :) 

    Anyway, my point is just play the game for yourself. If you can't find a way to have fun because you're worried about all the "casuals" then I suggest you seek some help. Just play! 

  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178
    Originally posted by Master10K

    I can link to. image

    Then let change the topic to "Is it me or GW2 PAY 2 BREAK THE GAME game?"

  • ButtskiButtski Member UncommonPosts: 187

    it's fun to read the posts of those tsw fanboy tryhards :D

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