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Pathfinder Online (Sandbox) has 48 hours left on Kickstarter
DeaconX
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Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-technology-demo
If you haven't yet checked out this ambitious project where a team of MMO and tabletop vets are working to produce a sandbox MMORPG experience based on the pathfinder D&D ruleset where the players get to forge their world and really take control - both in game and out of game given how much they're focusing on player feedback.
If you've ever wished an MMO company would listen to your ideas and you're sick of the themepark experience, it might be worth a look 
Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
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I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
Out with the AAA theme park trash and in with the innovative sandbox!
Fight for something or fall for nothing!
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
Are you asking how kickstarter works?
Clicky: http://www.kickstarter.com/start?ref=home_start
There's even a video for anyone who doesn't like reading
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well you do say it has 2 days left. Does that mean it shuts down or something?
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
Yes - after about 46 hours now, you will no longer be able to support the project through Kickstarter. They've already met their original goal and now they're hoping to reach 200K which is a decent sum to help them develop the technology required and possibly win over some big time investors - also, depending on how much you donate to the project, you recieve various levels of rewards which can also be seen on the site linked above.
But basically, it's a great opportunity for anyone who believes in what they're doing and wants to help make it happen.
In this case, they're trying to build the type of MMORPG that large came companies won't go near because historically, sandboxes have not been safe bets (though they also haven't been well built for the most part).
With the technology available today, I personally feel that incredible sandbox experiences CAN be built and that there's a large enough demand for it -- but so long as cookie cutter mmo's make bucks, that's what big studios will focus on.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
are they using a inhouse engine, or non exclusive/ licensed Engine here?
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
200k for a chance to sell to investors?
I wouldn't throw money at a pipe dream. If they can make a MMO, make one and i will see if it is fun. I don't believe in people who have no solid financial backings to go into projects that needs millions.
"Of course, those who simply wish to avoid any PvP at all will choose to remain within the very high security zones close to NPC settlements where PvP is effectively impossible. Such players will have fewer opportunities to find adventure or to earn treasure than their braver and less risk-averse peers, but they'll be safe from griefers."
When the developers are pre-griefing you, it hardly feels safe.
Down to the gun to raise 200k for a MMO sandbox, and yet we are to think those style of games are popular? Yeah OK.
I wish them the best reaching their goal, as it is good for folks to have whatever type game they want to play. That said, the stories of MMO sandbox being wanted by many were a bit premature methinks.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
pledged of $50,000 goal
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Go go go go!!!
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
The $30 I put towards helping them was next to nothing for me but I'm glad fans showed support:
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Backers
pledged of $50,000 goal
hours to go
Looks like they're gonna make the 200K
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Yawn.
Cheers!
Pledge levels appear to be about 50-50 - rewards + funding. The rewards themselves are not a bad value either. Eg at the $15 level you will get about 100 pages pdf consisting of x4 Thornkeep dungeons + design notes on Pathfinder Online. That's reasonable deal and support the funding. Higher levels are more for either: Very vested interest in seeing PfO game (reg. dev updates) OR using materials/book in PF campaigns.
$15 level is very value. albeit it's $5 over my "Rule of max. $10 upfront funding".
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
HAHAHAHA i love how they insult all those themeparks, but everything they describe about their games is the same.
"A fantasy sandbox with generic fantasy races and creatures based on older tabletop games where player actions impact the world and we tell the stories of the world". So, every single fantasy sandbox mmo there is. Extremely original.
EDIT: I love sandboxes, with politics, crafting, exploring, skill based, etc, etc, but this isn't what i call a unique sandbox.
Here's the KS description summary:
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
This is EXACTLY the reason I decided to fund. I've always believed the hybrid sandbox/themepark is the future of great MMORPGs.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
The 50k number shows that either a) the devs have no clue how much a MMO costs, or b) (more likely), they are trying to do a quick money grab from gullible people on the internet.
$200k? Give me a break. That is like ~2 man years of good programming .. may be 4 man-years if you really stretch it ... not even enough to build an alpha. Heck, good SINGLE PLAYER games cost a lot more than that.
This post cannot be real...it just can't be...
Did you not watch the video.? and if so did you not understand what was going on .?
I would assume you don't anything about Pathfinder or the World Pathfinder PnP is based off of. I myself GM Pathfinder twice a month. It is based off a PnP tabetop game that is what MMOs should be based off of with deep world immersion.
Sure .. and i read this "This Kickstarter will fund the Technology Demo of the Pathfinder Online Massively Multiplayer Online RPG. The Technology Demo will be fully playable, integrating account management, character creation, a virtual world server, multiple simultaneously connected clients, middleware used for rendering landscapes and characters, basic game mechanics, and player communications. "
So they want to do all that .. practically an alpha with limited content (like one zone) with 50k? And the whole point is to sell to investors.
So .. 1) there is no game .. 200k get you a video .. well i am not going put money down on a video. And even a tech demo is suspicious given they promise a functional system with char creation, VW server and stuff.
and more importantly .. they need investors. I doubt they are going to build the game they promise if the investors want otherwise. You guys are chipping in peanuts. Investors are going to spend millions. Who are they going to listen to? NOTHING said on their page about the game is legally binding.
Your clueless as to what this is for, before making comments on something you might want to look it to what it is your commenting about.
5k away from a 4th dungeon created by Ed Greenwood!
Go go go go !
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes