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After years in wow all other mmo's just sucks
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Well then stay in WoW ?
Pretty sure the structure and goals in boyh games are very similar.
I can see where you're coming from, that other MMOs don't live up to the standards of Blizzards World of Warcraft, and that these other Sub MMOs didn't have that feeling for you, but that doesn't make them all bad or abyssmal in comparison to WoW. These other MMOs have their only problems and issues, and some people really love those games and stay subbed just like the millions who like the juggernaut that is WoW.
WoW is not perfection however, nor should it stand as some sort of standard or stepping stone for other devs looking to create a MMO, especially a sub based game. Even though WoW is the King of sub MMOs, it has aged terribly, and has more issues as well. Like SWTOR you mention after 2-3 weeks at end game it was stale, WoW is the same. After 2-3 weeks through raid finder, as well as gaining valor cap each week if you play that much, you are probably well geared and have already seen the "end game" multiple times over those 2-3 weeks, which in turn exhausts the content.
PvP in WoW also gets exhausted quickly. Sure these other MMOs may not have PvP, but they may have much more deeper development focus on PVE content, which some like, anyway back to WoW PvP. WoW and its current classic BGs have been in the game for over 5 years now, and everyone is bored with them. Blizzard did make some slight map changes, but they are the same classic BGs, and the texture quality these days for those BGs is quite low. Even when new BGs come out in expansions, afer 1 month or so and you are geared, you exhaust those BGs and the content it contains, thus you become bored of them.
It's a natural thing to become bored of a game and its said content after playing it multiple times for a few weeks, this is normal. The problem with WoW and why it is still so successful is many of blizzards older subscriber base have invested a lot of time into the game, lets say over 3-4 years playing. Maybe they started in Vanilla or TBC. They want to keep playing and feel that their assets don't go to waste. Some have 1 character they might of invested over 10000 hours into. Some have multiple characters and maybe their in a guild they have been in for a long time. WoW also gets an influx of returners, and also new casual players every time blizzard runs promotions (Such as the recent Scroll of Resurrection Boost a friend to Level 80 + free Cataclysm expansion upgrade).
My point being, these other MMOs may get stale, boring, even not worthy of playing anymore, but because people have invested more time into WoW, and the fact that it has more players, is why people are staying. After playing WoW for over 7 years since 2005, I can say that any new content blizzard releases doesn't last long. It is often beaten in the first 2-3 weeks from the playerbase. WoWs combat and many of the graphical parts of the game are still showing age. They tried to retify this in Cataclysm upgrading all older zones, but there is still very low textured assets left, as well as the combat which hasn't changed much since release way back in 2004.
It's not that the other games are "bad" or they "suck", its just you've had your fill with their content, its time to unsub and wait for more content. Theres nothing wrong with staying subbbed to wow if you've invested a lot of time into the game, but WoWs content is nothing special either.
Guys do not be angry. Fact is that i need few sec to enter in to any of wow's battlegrounds. Fact is that we have in wow so many battlegrounds that you never get bored only from doing that kind of pvp. Fact is that we have open battlegrounds like Tol Barad and you want to copy that in to GW2 and some other games. Fact is that we fight for capital cities for many years and you will never get that expirience in your game
the original GW had battlegrounds before WOW ..
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Well cmon! Do not compare that kind of badly created battlegronds with wow battlegrounds
you are welcome to keep your opinion but your GW2 claim is baseless saying its copying from WOW
-- when GW had BGs before WOW
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You do realise he only wants you to confirm what he feels right? It's a process most unsecure people go through.
And as a coincident, there are alot of those in WoW..
Well i said that for Tol Barad or Wintergrasp, not for all. But top of pvp is wow'w fighting for Capital Cities where you must defeat all bosses and oposing faction try to prevent you from that. Now show me the game where you have that kind of epic pvp. It is like a fire all over the chat, ally tries to regroup and to prevent our mighty horde from doing this and hundred of us are flying from all parts of Azeroth to destroy Ally king and to show again true power of horde. Drums are following our army with blessing of gods and our maces and swords are hungry for Ally blood
qft.
But good job on troll thread op =]
I have been apart of WoW. It was a great run. And how, exactly, could you possibly know that you have had more experience than me in almost every mmo?
AHAHAHAH from what I see you live in WOW ......and nothing but WOW (:
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Wow certainly isn't for everyone, but it does appeal to a large segment of MMO players. That's obviously by it's gargantuan subscription numbers over the years. A general problem with MMOs is burn out. You can only do the same stuff so often before it gets old. And when that happens players stop playing, and often see the need to tell everyone why they stopped playing, etc. That's a natural thing that happens over time to most games.
I think where WoW gets the bad rap is that because most MMOs in the years since it have cloned it. It just makes it worse, because players are now getting WoW Clones, which often are not as good as WoW. But because the gameplay is so similar to it, it just reinforces the reasons they left WoW in the first place. That isn't Blizzard's fault. Quest grinding was simply better than mob grinding. Blizzard didn't invent that. DAoC and EQ 2 also had quests giving great experience. But they didn't have as many quests so that questing became your primary form of leveling.
Now players are getting tired of the quest grind and the static canned approach to moving across the world, and maybe it's time for a new evolution. Whether that is in the public quest style events, or someplace else, players seem to be growing tired of the same old approach. But I don't understand why Blizzard takes heat for other games copying them.
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To be honest, I had no issue with your post until you wrote the part I highlighted in red. Sure I don't agree with your narrow minded and ridiculous opinions of all the other games you listed; everyone's entitled to their own opinions, even if they're wrong.
But what does the part in red have to do with the rest of your post? - nothing.
I'm not going to even try to begin to argue with you because I can tell you are a troll and a hater, and that's also fine, anyone can become the person they want to become; unfortunately. I will however (not completely off the hook) note a few things:
Yellow: All opinions, no facts. Though I disagree, you are entitled to your wrong opinions.
Green: Most ridiculous thing I have ever read on mmorpg.com
Blue: The one game you did like; says a lot about you.
Purple: WOW barely has over 10 mil subs (approx 4 mil in NA & EU, and 6 mil in Asia- mainly China which has a dif sub model). Hence MoP expansion, catering to their gold farmers.
Orange: Hate? I'd say you've got your own fair doses of hate.
Red: Hence why you're a sad little troll and a hater. Please keep playing wow, we don't want you in our games (especially gw2).
You are absolutely correct. If I were you (and I will thank God every day from now on that I am not) I would never EVER leave WoW. You stay right there and play the best game ever made. We all cheer for you.
/Sarcasm Off
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@ OP
Then stop playing other mmorpg's and stick with WoW.
Guess every one has their own preferences, because someone would have to pay ME nice money to play WoW.
Seriously this game was ok at Vanilla, but nowadays when I tried it on my friend's account. Damn - it is seriousy bad
Agreed
Well, since we are in fact very smart and therefore somewhat special, we are justified in our thinking.
WOW was fun for a time, (pre BC), but what it has evolved into certainly isn't what I (and many other gamers) are looking for.
For every person playing WOW today I'm willing to bet there are 2 people who previously played and left because it hasn't aged well. (making it easier and easier does not a good MMORPG make)
It's interesting that you have tried so many other titles since you seem to feel WOW is such a great game, seems like you might be searching for better just like the rest of us, not being satisfied with the rather shallow experience it offers.
As true with most things in life, being the most popular doesn't make something the best of its genre, it just means the masses are easily swayed by marketing, the desire to go along with the crowd, and tend to prefer things that are less challenging to those that are. (a natural tendency towards entropy if you will)
In the end it comes down to a matter of personal taste and what you are looking for. My son is 19 years old, has played WOW since launch, and he and his friends are perfectly satisfied with the game. (well, that and D3 it seems).
But my tastes differ from theirs, and I've played MMO's that have offered somewhat more eclectic experiences though I will agree that most AAA MMO's post WOW have been shallow imitators however that said, each provided some fun for at least a short period of time, so not a total loss.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep looking for newer and better, settling for WOW because the rest don't measure up isn't an option for me, I'll keep trying new titles and finding the fun in each of them.
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While I dont agree with the whole rant of WoW is king and its the best thing since sliced bread, I must say I am on a similar boat, but for me, I played WoW after L2 for many years, and all of the MMOs released since WoW was released have been to put it mildly VERY underwhelming, only game worth a bit of my time recently is TERA and that has only the combat and politics going for it, not much else.
I fear we are probably not gonna see the sort of MMO that has the large appeal and polish of WoW as it had back in the day. It doesnt matter if they are completely different mechanics and something fresh, just anything new and innovative that companies try to bluetack on top of their WoW clone just ends up being a rotten apple with a shinny skin.
My hopes today for an MMO are probably on ArchAge hopefully that will deliver a different experience with room for everyone to enjoy, the whole "they need to target the hardcore", "they need to target the casual", "they need to target people who like FFA" is all bollocks, I want a game where everyone can exist and enjoy. So I can enjoy different aspects and experiences when I am bored.
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After years in wow all other mmo's just sucks
I'm not sure of the goal of his post
He says he's sick of WOW being the best but dont forget who is king ?
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An honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki)
i hate to admit but i also left wow for like 7 times now .everytime i told myself that this new game will beat wow and i will be happy with that game .but no , every other game i have played failed to keep me interested . i had to go back to wow . and with new scroll of resurrection offer i was compelled to play wow again .
ive left WOW many times too but I doubt you left WOW for new games each time you left
-- its easy to get sick of any game, especially WOW heh
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I dont believe that these devs are fine even before the game goes live with the fact that their game will be empty in two months. They are making WoW clones because they would like to get share of the WoW pie, a pie that makes money for Activision year after year. I honestly believe that many of these cloning companies actually think that their minimal twist to game mechanics and gameplay is going to make a difference and they will get ongoing population of satisfied players.
If people all of a sudden start voting with their wallets and no one buys mmo's anymore, all that would happen is WoW would keep kicking because there would be no alternatives at all, and investors would bury the whole genre since obviously no one buys mmo's anymore. I dont want to see this genre to degenerate into something that squeezes out a Xzyon per year and nothing more, I'd rather just hope that companies will "get it" and try different approaches, and honestly we are getting there. There's many mmo's coming that acutally does stuff differently. It's a fact, the mmo space has never looked better than what it looks like for the end of this year and a few years forth if nothing huge will happen.
I'm not sure how many of these games are going to be actual mmorpgs but a bunch will be. GW2, everyone knows what's up, and it breaks the WoW pattern in many areas. Firefall, will it be mmo? At least it's different and looks like mmoish. Heck, Neverwinter looks good, I dont know how big it will be, but the gameplay looked fun and definately not WoW. Planetside 2? Not sure how mmo it is vs. just a multiplayer shooter, but it could potentially be a long term commitment and fun. TES online looks promising too imo even if it's very WoWish because it actually has 3 factions and if it will have world pvp, somethign that WoW certainly does not have, it could be tons of fun. What about WoD? ArcheAge? Hope it's coming to NA and EU. None of these games are lobby idle queue standarounders like WoW is.
There's yet hope without going into mmo-strike, because there's a bunch of companies acknowledging the fact that close copies of WoW does not keep players playing.