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Update on Awakenings

GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

 

Hello mmorpg.com MO Forum Community! 

 

I'm refreshed and up for some more friendly boxing over here image (I needed a rest TBH and had started to lose focus and become emotional over some of the posting here) - Also the work-load has been pretty high with pop going up in the game of course in game support becomes more busy, that and trying to finalise some of the structures in Tindrem  too - it's been an intensely busy few weeks!  Anyhoo, thought it a good time to let you know about progress on the new Expansion. 

 

Tindrem is looking very nice at this point.  The largest structures and buildings are nearing completion.  I've been working hard on the Magic Academy - one of the more impressive buildings in Tindrem and I am so, so looking forward to it being in-game so everyone can enjoy it.  It's a huge lofty structure, certainly the largest in-door space in Nave so far with and a huge space that we'll be able to use for all kinds of things RP as well as directly involved in the new magic schools over time.  

AI is progressing very well at this point we've been looking at some of the new features that will come with AI and they're very exciting.  MO *needs* an excellent PVE side to the game -  that has been lacking since launch and we're well on course to provide something - I think - not seen before in a MMO.  Many new mobs are nearing completion as well as the new AI that will drive them.  We started with a goodly sized number of new beasties but as we've been in slight delay coming up to the holidays this has actually meant that we'll be adding more than I was expecting for Awakenings so radical PVE change is coming and the whole team is very, very excited to see this arrive.   Roving Guards and moving AI is coming along with this too - so we'll finally get to see 'real' guarding as oppose to the insta-kill that we have with Lictor at the moment. this will make keeping yourself safe far more realistic - I think it will of course make the world an even more dangerous and exciting place than it is now! 

The other side of AI other than just more realistic reaction to players encountering them is the migration of herds /  mobs - this is going well, but something we're really excited about is the way the AI can react to player - think your HP is too low and decide to run away from a mob?  Think again, if you're fighting the wrong kind of mob he (it) may very well draw a bow and start shooting at you or indeed shooting back if that's your approach in the first place.

The Trade Tools system has required a lot of thought - we spent a lot of time thinking through how to give players the tools to trade their wares without removing the implicit danger in Mortal Online that's needed and indeed vital to keep the sense of risk - moving your lootz and wares will still be dangerous and people will of course have to travel to take full advantage of the system - thus closing the circle and providing more for the 'Wolves' in the game. 

Henrik has tweeted that there will be some vids / screenshots coming along soon so I’ll send those to news@mmorpg.com when they are made available to you can all see the tangible progress. 

Quick Update on the China Server:  We're finalising the last of the changes needed to MO to launch in that market - but worth saying that MO China will be exclusively for China and won't be connected to the world-wide MO server.  This is for them and we're looking forward to that launch too.  We're having to make some changes to core MO to fit into their rules / laws and customs - skeletons (for example) are a no no in China so we've taken them out.  But it's good news for both sides of the equation as new content developed will have significant benefits for both arenas. 

That's all for now. Thanks for taking the time to read this brief update.  As we approach the release of Awakenings there will of course be much more info coming and  I;m looking forward to being able to share a lot more detail with you. 

 

Thanks! 

 

Theia 

 

PS oh nearly forgoet - Veteran Reward Design is now complete, so there will be news on this too and I hope all not just some of the rewards will be released with Awakenings.  We've been polling our community about thier views on this and will of course listen very, very carefully to what our player base wants, has requested and deserves. 

 

Any quesiotns?  Feel free I'll try to answer. 

GMTheia


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  • SHOE788SHOE788 Member Posts: 700

    Why is there a habit of deleting important threads with promises in them such as the case of deleting the veteran rewards thread?

  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by SHOE788

    Why is there a habit of deleting important threads with promises in them such as the case of deleting the veteran rewards thread?

    mmm That's an interesting quesiton - I didn't delete the thread, it's possible that somebody was just doing house - keeping.. but really.. nothing machiavellian is going on.  

    We started the Vet Rewards as a direct response to feedback from this forum that I personally took to Henrik and negociated this to resolve long standing upset. 

    Vet rewards are most certainly coming.  Nothing happens (of course) as fast as we'd all like but I've been involved in Design meetings for this so obivously we've not just paid lip service to this we're actually doing it. 

    Vet awards will come - if you're a vet then there will be something for you. 

    I posted last week asking our community for their views as Henrik wanted some direct feedback.. 

    I guess if something machiavellian was occuring then... that wouldn't have happened.  i also woulnd't have mentioned it in the OP. 

     

    Thanks

     

    GMTheia


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  • davidemo89davidemo89 Member Posts: 58

    hype!!!

  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by davidemo89

    hype!!!

    Hope! 

     

    S'ok I understand why you might think that but this is real stuff that I'm eye-balling every day. 

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  • KatlaOdindottirKatlaOdindottir Member Posts: 144

    Originally posted by GMTheia

    Originally posted by SHOE788

    Why is there a habit of deleting important threads with promises in them such as the case of deleting the veteran rewards thread?

    mmm That's an interesting quesiton - I didn't delete the thread, it's possible that somebody was just doing house - keeping.. but really.. nothing machiavellian is going on.  

    We started the Vet Rewards as a direct response to feedback from this forum that I personally took to Henrik and negociated this to resolve long standing upset. 

    Vet rewards are most certainly coming.  Nothing happens (of course) as fast as we'd all like but I've been involved in Design meetings for this so obivously we've not just paid lip service to this we're actually doing it. 

    Vet awards will come - if you're a vet then there will be something for you. 

    I posted last week asking our community for their views as Henrik wanted some direct feedback.. 

    I guess if something machiavellian was occuring then... that wouldn't have happened.  i also woulnd't have mentioned it in the OP. 

     

    Thanks

     

    Ever thought about Relaunching MO when it gets upto par ?

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  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by mrcjevans

    Originally posted by GMTheia


    Originally posted by SHOE788

    Why is there a habit of deleting important threads with promises in them such as the case of deleting the veteran rewards thread?

    mmm That's an interesting quesiton - I didn't delete the thread, it's possible that somebody was just doing house - keeping.. but really.. nothing machiavellian is going on.  

    We started the Vet Rewards as a direct response to feedback from this forum that I personally took to Henrik and negociated this to resolve long standing upset. 

    Vet rewards are most certainly coming.  Nothing happens (of course) as fast as we'd all like but I've been involved in Design meetings for this so obivously we've not just paid lip service to this we're actually doing it. 

    Vet awards will come - if you're a vet then there will be something for you. 

    I posted last week asking our community for their views as Henrik wanted some direct feedback.. 

    I guess if something machiavellian was occuring then... that wouldn't have happened.  i also woulnd't have mentioned it in the OP. 

     

    Thanks

     

    Ever thought about Relaunching MO when it gets upto par ?

    No.  There will be NO wipe and NO relaunch and NO MO 2.0.  At least not for many, many years. 

    GMTheia


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  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by raff01

    LOL seriously? you do realise you're setting yourself up for some serious bashing.  I'll just leave you to your hype machine and laugh my arse off when it fails to deliver...

    Which bit do you think I'm not being serious over? 

     

    GMTheia


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  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619

    I'm confused.  The last time you were here posting you said the whole team is working on AI but now the team is working on a new city, a trade system and AI along with several other things?  My understanding is the actual coding "team" (or in other words, the people who actually make things happen in the game) is made up of a single digit figure and can possibly be counted on one hand.  Can you elaborate on who is doing what so we have some idea of what kind of changes to expect?  If only one guy is working on AI, it would really go against your previous postings.

     

    Several new threads have been deleted on the official forums so it is not a housekeeping issue as you suggest.  Some of those threads have valuable feedback that could actually help your company to grow.  Can you tell us who at SV is directing that any post that could be considered negative, should be deleted right away?  Is this being directed from Henrik? If not, does he know it is happening?    Do you honestly feel that hiding things is helping to improve SV's reputation among gamers?

     

    With core systems broken like being hit from invisible enemies and the log-off inside keeps, dont you think SV should stop trying to add new (half-finished) features into the game in search of a hypothetical new customer base and instead fix what they already have to support the existing customers who have supported you?  Honestly, if you could fix a few of those game breaking issues that have been in since launch, the current base would be happier and more people would come over.  

     

    You are once again posting how the population is rising and things are booming in-game.  If the next financial report comes out and proves (once again) that you are misinterpreting the actual size of the population, will you promise to stop posting about the population until the financial reports actually prove it?  I can go back and show you your old posts in the 4th quarter that claim the population is up and then show you the most recent financial report that CLEARLY states it has gone down.  Either you are mistaken or SV is submitting false financial reports.  

     

    What is the plan to keep the company alive in the future if the break-even prediction of mid-year does not happen?  Will there be a third stock split?   Are the founding investors very happy that their initial investments have been reduced to less than 10% of what they started with?

     

    You posted back in Dec that vet rewards were in progress and that they should be out in a week, then you disappeared and didnt reply to any of the threads.  I wont ask any questions about this one since it is pretty self explanatory but I do hope you learned a lesson and that you no longer make statements here that you cant back up.  I dont know if you jumped the gun or you got schmucked by your supervisors but either way, please dont give timelines that you can not back up.

    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by Talonsin

    I'm confused.  The last time you were here posting you said the whole team is working on AI but now the team is working on a new city, a trade system and AI along with several other things?  My understanding is the actual coding "team" (or in other words, the people who actually make things happen in the game) is made up of a single digit figure and can possibly be counted on one hand.  Can you elaborate on who is doing what so we have some idea of what kind of changes to expect?  If only one guy is working on AI, it would really go against your previous postings.

     There is an ART and a Coding Team... you're right I should have been more specific - that might have helped me avoid being picked up on that. The Coding Team are fully focused on AI.  The Art team have been heavily involved in it up until recently.  Very well don on picking me up on that tho - hope I have clarified this postition for you ;)

    Several new threads have been deleted on the official forums so it is not a housekeeping issue as you suggest.  Some of those threads have valuable feedback that could actually help your company to grow.  Can you tell us who at SV is directing that any post that could be considered negative, should be deleted right away?  Is this being directed from Henrik? If not, does he know it is happening?    Do you honestly feel that hiding things is helping to improve SV's reputation among gamers?

     I see a lot of negative posts that are still up there ... I don't have the same view as you on this - sorry

    With core systems broken like being hit from invisible enemies and the log-off inside keeps, dont you think SV should stop trying to add new (half-finished) features into the game in search of a hypothetical new customer base and instead fix what they already have to support the existing customers who have supported you?  Honestly, if you could fix a few of those game breaking issues that have been in since launch, the current base would be happier and more people would come over.  

    Again, different perspective from you (I think we'll have to agree to disagree .. a lot) - there is always a tension between new content and bug fixing for any software house.  I think SV are doing the right thing in forging ahead with new content - After Awakenings we'll be doing Bug Fixing for now we are focused on new AI, GUI, and Tindrem andf the rest of the announced content for the new expansion.  

    You are once again posting how the population is rising and things are booming in-game.  If the next financial report comes out and proves (once again) that you are misinterpreting the actual size of the population, will you promise to stop posting about the population until the financial reports actually prove it?  I can go back and show you your old posts in the 4th quarter that claim the population is up and then show you the most recent financial report that CLEARLY states it has gone down.  Either you are mistaken or SV is submitting false financial reports. 

    Again we'll have to agree to disagree - I know the pop is rising.  How about you make a quick Fledgling and come and run around a bit - see what you think and then you post what you have seen with your eyes in game.  Since my word isn't good enough for you - use your own eyes please rather than question what I'm saying.  It's well within your abaility to go check this out for yourself rather than quesiton my honestly. Go, now, log on and then post what you see in game please! Until you do that can we leave your view on population out of it.  I'm in game for many hours each day so I feel able to accurately comment on pop.  Can you tell me where you're getting your info from please? I'd like to see your metrics since you have a 100% clear view on this. 

    What is the plan to keep the company alive in the future if the break-even prediction of mid-year does not happen?  Will there be a third stock split?   Are the founding investors very happy that their initial investments have been reduced to less than 10% of what they started with?

     Break even would be nice and is expected this year as SV has said. However if this is not the case there is lots of room to carry on for a loooong long time.  I've seen a lot of 'SV is going down' threads over here - strange how we're still puncing away tho, eh? All this time, all these folks saying we're doomed (dddomed I say) and yet we are still here and planning to be for many years to come. 

    You posted back in Dec that vet rewards were in progress and that they should be out in a week, then you disappeared and didnt reply to any of the threads.  I wont ask any questions about this one since it is pretty self explanatory but I do hope you learned a lesson and that you no longer make statements here that you cant back up.  I dont know if you jumped the gun or you got schmucked by your supervisors but either way, please dont give timelines that you can not back up.

    The whole reason we're as far advanced on vet rewards as we are is because I took that issue from this board and pushed it.  It hasn't happened as fast as we thought it would but it is happening.  Is that not worth something - although I accept your point about it being late.  Can you not (please) try to see the positive in this and the effort being expended?  I guess I should have just added six months to it - but then that woulnd;'t have been honest given the info I had at the time - it might have served me better.o

    And whilst I was here occassionally monitoring what was going on the workload was so ferocious and the level of pain I get here so awful that I decided fo focus on the core of my role. That's under control so I have come back to try and update you.... 

     

     

    GMTheia


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  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by moltafire

    Seems GM Thiea came here to advert........ I mean spreaad the news before an official statement on the MOFO was made.

     

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/71982-cool-news-mmorpg-com-theia.html

    Actually one of the community re-posed this .. not me 

    I was genuinely trying to give you guys a heads-up and some info as I've been away a little while (recovering from my last visit here)

     

    thanks tho... much appreciated.. 

    GMTheia


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  • xDayxxDayx Member Posts: 712

    I have a question for the question askers...

    1) Do any of you guys sub to MO? And do you ever plan to again?

    2) Havent they answered the box question already? And what was the answer the last time someone asked?

    3) Are you guys really that butt-hurt? It seems the level of vitriol would only be warranted if SV tortured your family, killed your pet, and burnt your house down?

    PS- Im not a total fanboi.. I also am curious if they ever will make sure that people cant exploit into keeps. In addition I want to know if they plan to add mostly more fluff to the game instead of creating content that feeds more reds. 

     

  • kakasakikakasaki Member UncommonPosts: 1,205

    Originally posted by xDayx

    I have a question for the question askers...

    1) Do any of you guys sub to MO? And do you ever plan to again? No. What is your point?

    2) Havent they answered the box question already? And what was the answer the last time someone asked? Yes. More broken promises.

    3) Are you guys really that butt-hurt? It seems the level of vitriol would only be warranted if SV tortured your family, killed your pet, and burnt your house down? You think this is bad. Try the SWTOR section. If it bothers you so much, why come here? 

    PS- Im not a total fanboi.. I also am curious if they ever will make sure that people cant exploit into keeps. In addition I want to know if they plan to add mostly more fluff to the game instead of creating content that feeds more reds. 

     

     

    A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  • xDayxxDayx Member Posts: 712

    Originally posted by kakasaki

    Originally posted by xDayx

    I have a question for the question askers...

    1) Do any of you guys sub to MO? And do you ever plan to again? No. What is your point?

    My point is that if you never will play again why do you care so much about what happens in the future?

    2) Havent they answered the box question already? And what was the answer the last time someone asked? Yes. More broken promises.

    So, specifically what did they say about the boxes Cmon man... specifics.

    3) Are you guys really that butt-hurt? It seems the level of vitriol would only be warranted if SV tortured your family, killed your pet, and burnt your house down? You think this is bad. Try the SWTOR section. If it bothers you so much, why come here? 

    Because I want to come here. Lets just say I really liked the game and was banned unjustifyibly. After 3 months tops I wouldnt even think twice about the game ever again. Lets also  say that I invested in the company, lost money, needed money because the economy and sold my shares at a huge loss. I would be mad but really only at myself. Unless I had a legal issue with said stock purchase I would just handle that legally and not on a forum. And what makes MMORPG so effing cool that the community (SWTOR incl.) needs to exaggerate everything instead of calling it like it is.  In other words why does this community think its cool to immature when in actuality its cool to be more like me.

    PS- Im not a total fanboi.. I also am curious if they ever will make sure that people cant exploit into keeps. In addition I want to know if they plan to add mostly more fluff to the game instead of creating content that feeds more reds. 

     

     

     

  • psykobillypsykobilly Member Posts: 338

    Originally posted by GMTheia  

    AI is progressing very well at this point we've been looking at some of the new features that will come with AI and they're very exciting.  MO *needs* an excellent PVE side to the game -  that has been lacking since launch and we're well on course to provide something - I think - not seen before in a MMO.  

    The other side of AI other than just more realistic reaction to players encountering them is the migration of herds /  mobs - this is going well, but something we're really excited about is the way the AI can react to player - think your HP is too low and decide to run away from a mob?  Think again, if you're fighting the wrong kind of mob he (it) may very well draw a bow and start shooting at you or indeed shooting back if that's your approach in the first place.

     

    Regarding the AI, how is it better than Darkfall?  If you can't answer that question, you need to do some research right away.  Darkfall has epic underwater, terrestrial, and aerial mobs.  Darkfall has mobs with intelligent AI that:  dodge attacks, use rangd and magic, alert other mobs of the same type when there is an enemy, have projectile based attacks that can be dodged by players, and yes there are migrating mobs from low end to difficult.  What you see is what you get with DF mobs... if they have a staff, you get that staff when the mob dies.  

    If all those features are not in, I would stop talking up the AI until MO catches up.

     

  • kakasakikakasaki Member UncommonPosts: 1,205

    Originally posted by xDayx

    Originally posted by kakasaki


    Originally posted by xDayx

    I have a question for the question askers...

    1) Do any of you guys sub to MO? And do you ever plan to again? No. What is your point?

    My point is that if you never will play again why do you care so much about what happens in the future?  

    A few reasons: love sandboxes and tired of incompetent devs trying to milk money out of fans so hungry for a sandbox games they'll pay for whatever trash comes along; so other people don't fall for the decpetive practices of the before mentioned devs, like to discuss MMOs and this is an MMO forum; bored at work and enjoy conversing with other people that hsare my hobby.

    2) Havent they answered the box question already? And what was the answer the last time someone asked? Yes. More broken promises.

    So, specifically what did they say about the boxes Cmon man... specifics.

    Don't have the time to go into a lengthy diatride now but the points have been discussed (beaten to death some may say) but it boils down to: People paid for a promised product to be delivered to them, that promise was not kept to the satisfaction of many. Promises are then made to "reward"  said people. Promise not kept. See a pattern?

     

    3) Are you guys really that butt-hurt? It seems the level of vitriol would only be warranted if SV tortured your family, killed your pet, and burnt your house down? You think this is bad. Try the SWTOR section. If it bothers you so much, why come here? 

    Because I want to come here. Lets just say I really liked the game and was banned unjustifyibly. After 3 months tops I wouldnt even think twice about the game ever again. Lets also  say that I invested in the company, lost money, needed money because the economy and sold my shares at a huge loss. I would be mad but really only at myself. Unless I had a legal issue with said stock purchase I would just handle that legally and not on a forum. And what makes MMORPG so effing cool that the community (SWTOR incl.) needs to exaggerate everything instead of calling it like it is.  In other words why does this community think its cool to immature when in actuality its cool to be more like me.

     

    Well, the people critical of MO also "just want to come here". Nobody thinks it is "cool" to be immature (ok, maybe some people do); you are assuming to much. I don't think most people think "coolness" has anything to do why we post on a forum nor is acting like you considered cool. I mean, wtf does being cool have to do with anything? Are we in junior high or something?!?!

    PS- Im not a total fanboi.. I also am curious if they ever will make sure that people cant exploit into keeps. In addition I want to know if they plan to add mostly more fluff to the game instead of creating content that feeds more reds. 

     

     

     

     

    A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by moltafire

    Originally posted by GMTheia


    Originally posted by moltafire

    Seems GM Thiea came here to advert........ I mean spreaad the news before an official statement on the MOFO was made.

     

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/71982-cool-news-mmorpg-com-theia.html

    Actually one of the community re-posed this .. not me 

    I was genuinely trying to give you guys a heads-up and some info as I've been away a little while (recovering from my last visit here)

     

    thanks tho... much appreciated.. 

    lol Why are you dodging my other questions??

    Also you did not answer Talonsin's question about population.  I will re- say what he did.  You said during the 4th quarter before the financials came out the pop was booming.  Then the financials came out saying that was not true.  Are the financials bogus??  Or can you actually give some proof besides "because I say so".  It has been an established fact everytime someone says the pop is booming it is not true.  Everytime it has been said, a couple months later a financial report comes out and states a different fact.  I and others want to know are the financials false or is it you?  It has to be one or the other.

    And will you answer my question about the vet rewards for gods sake???!!!  You originally started this discussion for the people who did not get the boxed version or the replacement discs.  Will there be rewards for those people alone that others will not get.  If not then what you stated before about making it up to those customers is false.  And why did SV delete the thread started by you promissing Vet rewards??

    And you last visit here left more questions than answers. 

     

    Wut? I'm not dodging anything lol

    Well maybe some of the vitriol

    Did you not see my reply to Talonsin? Let me re-state.  Go and make a FREE trail account then go in game and with your eyes, look, look at what you actually SEE rather than questioning my honesty.  Then come and post here as to if YOU think pop is going up or not.  I work in MO every day but am apparently not qualified or trusted to comment - so make a Trial account, log into Meduli or Fab and then come and tell YOUR community what YOU see with YOUR eyes...

    Go on.. I double dare you... 

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  • kakasakikakasaki Member UncommonPosts: 1,205

    Originally posted by xDayx

    Originally posted by psykobilly


    Originally posted by GMTheia  

    AI is progressing very well at this point we've been looking at some of the new features that will come with AI and they're very exciting.  MO *needs* an excellent PVE side to the game -  that has been lacking since launch and we're well on course to provide something - I think - not seen before in a MMO.  

    The other side of AI other than just more realistic reaction to players encountering them is the migration of herds /  mobs - this is going well, but something we're really excited about is the way the AI can react to player - think your HP is too low and decide to run away from a mob?  Think again, if you're fighting the wrong kind of mob he (it) may very well draw a bow and start shooting at you or indeed shooting back if that's your approach in the first place.

     

    Regarding the AI, how is it better than Darkfall?  If you can't answer that question, you need to do some research right away.  Darkfall has epic underwater, terrestrial, and aerial mobs.  Darkfall has mobs with intelligent AI that:  dodge attacks, use rangd and magic, alert other mobs of the same type when there is an enemy, have projectile based attacks that can be dodged by players, and yes there are migrating mobs from low end to difficult.  What you see is what you get with DF mobs... if they have a staff, you get that staff when the mob dies.  

    If all those features are not in, I would stop talking up the AI until MO catches up.

     

    To all the trolls..This is an example of a new critical valid question

    I see taking the moral high ground and name calling is the new "cool"... 

    A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  • xDayxxDayx Member Posts: 712

    Originally posted by moltafire

    I will respond to this one.

     

    2) Havent they answered the box question already? And what was the answer the last time someone asked? Yes. More broken promises.

    So, specifically what did they say about the boxes Cmon man... specifics.

     

    GM Theia originally started the Vet reward thread trying to make it up to those people in question.  Then there was a statement saying they can not figure out who bought what.  Then that thread with the promises and the statement saying they do not know who bought what from the database mysteryously disapeared.  And GM Thiea is now dodging the question. 

     Sounds to me like they came to the conclusion that they will never send boxes. Conclusion being the operative word.

    So if thats the case whats your next step?

  • BiskopBiskop Member UncommonPosts: 709

    Originally posted by GMTheia

    Wut? I'm not dodging anything lol

    Well maybe some of the vitriol

    Did you not see my reply to Talonsin? Let me re-state.  Go and make a FREE trail account then go in game and with your eyes, look, look at what you actually SEE rather than questioning my honesty.  Then come and post here as to if YOU think pop is going up or not.  I work in MO every day but am apparently not qualified or trusted to comment - so make a Trial account, log into Meduli or Fab and then come and tell YOUR community what YOU see with YOUR eyes...

    Go on.. I double dare you... 

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    No one needs to go through the trouble of making a trial account and then make an utterly subjective calculation about sub numbers - we have the financial report which clearly states that SV is losing money and that MO has a low pop with a very low retention rate. While you ignore this FACT in every post, people here are not as delusional as the bots over at your own forum. We won't be satisfied with your stories, especially not when the official numbers contradict them.

    So I double dare YOU to provide something more than your word to back up all these claims that MO's pop is booming. The burden of proof is on you: you make a claim, you back it up - with hard facts, not anectodes and promises.

  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by Biskop

    Originally posted by GMTheia


    Wut? I'm not dodging anything lol

    Well maybe some of the vitriol

    Did you not see my reply to Talonsin? Let me re-state.  Go and make a FREE trail account then go in game and with your eyes, look, look at what you actually SEE rather than questioning my honesty.  Then come and post here as to if YOU think pop is going up or not.  I work in MO every day but am apparently not qualified or trusted to comment - so make a Trial account, log into Meduli or Fab and then come and tell YOUR community what YOU see with YOUR eyes...

    Go on.. I double dare you... 

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    No one needs to go through the trouble of making a trial account and then make an utterly subjective calculation about sub numbers - we have the financial report which clearly states that SV is losing money and that MO has a low pop with a very low retention rate. While you ignore this FACT in every post, people here are not as delusional as the bots over at your own forum. We won't be satisfied with your stories, especially not when the official numbers contradict them.

    So I double dare YOU to provide something more than your word to back up all these claims that MO's pop is booming. The burden of proof is on you: you make a claim, you back it up - with hard facts, not anectodes and promises.

    I'm just asking you to go and look with your own eyes -  too much trouble?  I don't see why that's so hard.. or is the game you so frequently comment on not installed on your HDD? 

     

    GMTheia


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  • RussiannRussiann Member Posts: 24

    Pshh this a failed attempt to hype, so sad, but hey ill be there for the laughs, when all the rage happens when bugs and dupes will be introduced!

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