I know downtime sucks but didn't they announce both Saturdays and Todays downtime a good deal ahead of time?
Saturday's wasn't and in fact where it was announced was in the first bit about the 31st downtime which some say was edited in later. Don't know myself because since it related to the 31st I didn;t bother to read it at the time.
This one was.
So far as I'm concerned I can see where they're coming from about Saturday's. This one...not so much.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
This is why I love Everquest, they rarely shut down servers for maintenace, they keep the game online while working on it every week, and hotfix during game. If they find anything, they just announce they are RESTARTING the server, and not shutting it down.
What I find extremely funny is that a major "benefit" of using the Hero Engine is "Real Time Updates"!
"Game development happens in real time! No builds, no client restarts – create your game in real-time and get instant feedback. Enjoy rapid prototyping and easy collaboration whether you are in the same room or across the world. Switch from building to playing instantly and see your work come to life!"
I know downtime sucks but didn't they announce both Saturdays and Todays downtime a good deal ahead of time?
Saturday's wasn't and in fact where it was announced was in the first bit about the 31st downtime which some say was edited in later. Don't know myself because since it related to the 31st I didn;t bother to read it at the time.
This one was.
So far as I'm concerned I can see where they're coming from about Saturday's. This one...not so much.
All month the game has had maintenenace virtually every day, and not when it is mean to be being postponed and changed at the last minute, and when it went down Saturday, then perhaps Tuesdays could have been avoided too, or avoided Saturdays and waited until Tuesday.
Downtimes is only affecting EU people mainly. I thought SOE was bad with theirs, but this is even worse. All other MMOs handle it better too. Usually when other MMos have downtime not on the normal day, they do not do the maintanace on the normal day as well.
They post changes about 11pm or 2 am EU time, for the next day, and that is plenty not enough notice for EU customers - go to bed thinking there is no maintanance and got a day off work, but wake up to find there is now maintenance and unable to play. It is basically been too unreliable with SWTOR, that even when having maintenance on a regular day, then becomes a pain.
What I find extremely funny is that a major "benefit" of using the Hero Engine is "Real Time Updates"!
"Game development happens in real time! No builds, no client restarts – create your game in real-time and get instant feedback. Enjoy rapid prototyping and easy collaboration whether you are in the same room or across the world. Switch from building to playing instantly and see your work come to life!"
So if tonight Bioware announce that the game will be down 7 days in February from noon CST to midnight CST that will be OK because 'they announced it in advance'? How about 14 days? Still Ok. What about 28?
There are better techs available - BigWorld is another that springs to mind. And failing that simply doing the minimum that other companies do these days would be an improvement.
And if I said "yes"... would you increase the downtime scenario to 6 months.... or a year ? Come on. An announcement for maintenance tomorrow and then some 3-4 days later is reasonable. Saying your down for a month is unreasonable..much like your example or rebuttal to my post.
So if tonight Bioware announce that the game will be down 7 days in February from noon CST to midnight CST that will be OK because 'they announced it in advance'? How about 14 days? Still Ok. What about 28?
There are better techs available - BigWorld is another that springs to mind. And failing that simply doing the minimum that other companies do these days would be an improvement.
And if I said "yes"... would you increase the downtime scenario to 6 months.... or a year ? Come on. An announcement for maintenance tomorrow and then some 3-4 days later is reasonable. Saying your down for a month is unreasonable..much like your example or rebuttal to my post.
Well based on what you said: as long as Bioware announced it ...
Every 3-4 days is OK however? About 9 days a month? Well I suppose that's about what Bioware patched in January. I don't think it is good enough however so we obviously differ. No big deal but I think people deserve better - especially when better could be easily implemented.
they should plan server maintenance just like EVE Online. Why? cause it is only half an hour to max 1 hour a day and their timing is exceptionally brilliant. This coming from the only MMO that is out there in the literal sense of the words.
It is 1 big gameworld, where EVERYONE plays TOGETHER. Massive Multiplayer Online, in case people forgot what those 3 words meant still.
Nobody ever complained about their maintenance time ever.
their maintenance time:
For EU:
12:00-13:00 hours (lunchtime as you will) perfect for EU, go get food and before you know you are back ingame or else you are still at work.
For america:
this is even better, cause turn the clock back 6-9 hours, none of them should be up and running.
Result:
perfect working cluster of 12 servers providing 1 big gameworld.
no complaints about the server
no complaints about maintenance
EVER.
Edit: SWTOR, your servers suck balls and your maintenance even harder. 4-8 hours for not even a single decent patch.
You know I am old school but I remember when companies use to have rolling down times, not patching all servers at the same time so they always had a block of servers up.
I also remember them never doing maintance on a weekend or prime game time.
Just like everything else now, they just don't care about servicing the customer.
Do us all a favor and the guy that said it was down 6 times hence he can't justify paying a monthly sub well cya buddy this website has honestly turned into the biggest bunch of cry babies i've ever seen for an mmo community there are no positve forum posts
Do us all a favor and the guy that said it was down 6 times hence he can't justify paying a monthly sub well cya buddy this website has honestly turned into the biggest bunch of cry babies i've ever seen for an mmo community there are no positve forum posts
Fully understand your frustration, but why do you think there are no positive forum posts? like the old school post above your post(and i am like him btw) i agree with him.
it is time game companies lift their lazy butt and start making decent games, not a beta, released that and then keep patching for the next 2 months.
This isnt about gaming or anything else anymore, it is just about money as this economy comes crashing down and game companies just *need* to fill their pockets rightnow without sense for quality.
Happy enough of a post for you? cause i can put in a smiley too
Don't get me wrong by my prior posts. Off-peak updates or something that could stream behind the scenes would be great. It's just that most mmo's I've played have done this type of updates..regularly scheduled or other wise. Or at least it seems that way to me. Some players off-peak is always someone elses peak times. Speaking on an indivuduals schedule and not the "normal" peak/off-peak defined by conventional stats.
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Saturday's wasn't and in fact where it was announced was in the first bit about the 31st downtime which some say was edited in later. Don't know myself because since it related to the 31st I didn;t bother to read it at the time.
This one was.
So far as I'm concerned I can see where they're coming from about Saturday's. This one...not so much.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
This is why I love Everquest, they rarely shut down servers for maintenace, they keep the game online while working on it every week, and hotfix during game. If they find anything, they just announce they are RESTARTING the server, and not shutting it down.
What I find extremely funny is that a major "benefit" of using the Hero Engine is "Real Time Updates"!
"Game development happens in real time! No builds, no client restarts – create your game in real-time and get instant feedback. Enjoy rapid prototyping and easy collaboration whether you are in the same room or across the world. Switch from building to playing instantly and see your work come to life!"
http://www.heroengine.com/herocloud/tech-features/
I think the moan on todays maintenance is that all they planned on doing was one on a Tuesday, and doing one for US time and one for EU time. "We are aiming for this weekly maintenance period to take place in an off-peak time for both North American and European players."
All month the game has had maintenenace virtually every day, and not when it is mean to be being postponed and changed at the last minute, and when it went down Saturday, then perhaps Tuesdays could have been avoided too, or avoided Saturdays and waited until Tuesday.
Downtimes is only affecting EU people mainly. I thought SOE was bad with theirs, but this is even worse. All other MMOs handle it better too. Usually when other MMos have downtime not on the normal day, they do not do the maintanace on the normal day as well.
They post changes about 11pm or 2 am EU time, for the next day, and that is plenty not enough notice for EU customers - go to bed thinking there is no maintanance and got a day off work, but wake up to find there is now maintenance and unable to play. It is basically been too unreliable with SWTOR, that even when having maintenance on a regular day, then becomes a pain.
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BW just needs to figure out how to do it.
And if I said "yes"... would you increase the downtime scenario to 6 months.... or a year ? Come on. An announcement for maintenance tomorrow and then some 3-4 days later is reasonable. Saying your down for a month is unreasonable..much like your example or rebuttal to my post.
Well based on what you said: as long as Bioware announced it ...
Every 3-4 days is OK however? About 9 days a month? Well I suppose that's about what Bioware patched in January. I don't think it is good enough however so we obviously differ. No big deal but I think people deserve better - especially when better could be easily implemented.
Everyone has a small scream in the back of their head when they want something and then don't get it.
I remember back when I played EQ and servers would go down... Longest few hours of my middle school life. LOL.
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Well guys, it is totally simple:
they should plan server maintenance just like EVE Online. Why? cause it is only half an hour to max 1 hour a day and their timing is exceptionally brilliant. This coming from the only MMO that is out there in the literal sense of the words.
It is 1 big gameworld, where EVERYONE plays TOGETHER. Massive Multiplayer Online, in case people forgot what those 3 words meant still.
Nobody ever complained about their maintenance time ever.
their maintenance time:
For EU:
12:00-13:00 hours (lunchtime as you will) perfect for EU, go get food and before you know you are back ingame or else you are still at work.
For america:
this is even better, cause turn the clock back 6-9 hours, none of them should be up and running.
Result:
perfect working cluster of 12 servers providing 1 big gameworld.
no complaints about the server
no complaints about maintenance
EVER.
Edit: SWTOR, your servers suck balls and your maintenance even harder. 4-8 hours for not even a single decent patch.
Learn from others and fix your crap. *Cancel sub*
You know I am old school but I remember when companies use to have rolling down times, not patching all servers at the same time so they always had a block of servers up.
I also remember them never doing maintance on a weekend or prime game time.
Just like everything else now, they just don't care about servicing the customer.
Do us all a favor and the guy that said it was down 6 times hence he can't justify paying a monthly sub well cya buddy this website has honestly turned into the biggest bunch of cry babies i've ever seen for an mmo community there are no positve forum posts
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Fully understand your frustration, but why do you think there are no positive forum posts? like the old school post above your post(and i am like him btw) i agree with him.
it is time game companies lift their lazy butt and start making decent games, not a beta, released that and then keep patching for the next 2 months.
This isnt about gaming or anything else anymore, it is just about money as this economy comes crashing down and game companies just *need* to fill their pockets rightnow without sense for quality.
Happy enough of a post for you? cause i can put in a smiley too
Suprised they are not charging more for all this downtime yet, hey its extra work they are putting in, to help the players, right?
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Don't get me wrong by my prior posts. Off-peak updates or something that could stream behind the scenes would be great. It's just that most mmo's I've played have done this type of updates..regularly scheduled or other wise. Or at least it seems that way to me. Some players off-peak is always someone elses peak times. Speaking on an indivuduals schedule and not the "normal" peak/off-peak defined by conventional stats.