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SWTOR is game of the year

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  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,623

    Originally posted by Azaria

    I have no idea how a site justifies giving TOR game of the year, or even a runners up prize. When Skyrim is out any publication that chose TOR over skyrim is in for some serious embarrassment. Honestly its like picking the Buffalo Bills to win the Superbowl.

    Well that's the thing I've pointed out in a few of my posts in this thread.  Did it win GOTY on any gaming sites that weren't MMO niche sites?  I doubt it, and like you said, if they gave GOTY to a game that was out for less than a few weeks, they're not worth the bandwidth they're hosted on.

    I stand corrected, it won GOTY on Ablegamers, a site for disabled gamers, and another site called Mediastinger, who said SWTOR is "currently the best reason to own a pc". 

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    No reputable gaming sites have named it GOTY, because it isn't.

  • CavodCavod Member Posts: 295

    Originally posted by Satarious

     OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one.  RIFT  launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/31/massivelys-best-of-2011-awards/#continued

    Oh wow, that's pretty funny they wrote that.  There's definitely a sense of humor over in those offices.

    We really need separate forums for every newly launched game. There can be the anti-<MMO> one and there can be the 'what general discussion should be' one. All the lamenting can happen together where each can find solace in like minded can't-move-on-ers leaving the rest of us to actually move forward and discuss meaningful and relevant topics.

  • KillyoxKillyox Member CommonPosts: 424

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer).  I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:

     

     OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/31/massivelys-best-of-2011-awards/#continued

    Only because GW2 had it before and couldnt get it yet another time :)

  • MargulisMargulis Member CommonPosts: 1,614

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer).  I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:

     

     OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/31/massivelys-best-of-2011-awards/#continued

    Isn't this kind of like giving Water World best picture?

  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904


    Originally posted by Margulis

    Originally posted by Satarious
    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer).  I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
     
     OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
    http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/31/massivelys-best-of-2011-awards/#continued
    Isn't this kind of like giving Water World best picture?

    Kevin costners portrayal of a "dolphin man" is no laughing matter.

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  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,905

    Originally posted by Satarious

    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites...

     

    ...and right now most of them are looking pretty silly for jumping the gun.

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,905

    Originally posted by Mellkor

     




    Originally posted by Margulis





    Originally posted by Satarious

    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer).  I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:

     

     OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/31/massivelys-best-of-2011-awards/#continued






    Isn't this kind of like giving Water World best picture?



     

    Kevin costners portrayal of a "dolphin man" is no laughing matter.

     

    ahh man, that movie is a bit of a guilty pleaure of mine lol

  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197

    Originally posted by Mellkor

     




    Originally posted by Margulis





    Originally posted by Satarious

    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer).  I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:

     

     OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/31/massivelys-best-of-2011-awards/#continued






    Isn't this kind of like giving Water World best picture?



     

    Kevin costners portrayal of a "dolphin man" is no laughing matter.



    lol :D

    ..Cake..

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,623

    Maybe they gave it GOTY because they knew it wouldn't stand a chance in 2012.

  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,234

    Originally posted by Blacknd

    When you get your own MMORPG website, you can decide the criteria of the awards it gives out. Considering no website has a Beta of the Year award..

    They've decided their criteria, I'm sorry no one seems to agree with it.

    Seems that a pre requisite to run one of these portals is that you must be a fawning sycophant with little objectivity or journalistic talent. I think that there is a real market for a 'grown up' games site.

  • MetentsoMetentso Member UncommonPosts: 1,437

    If games are in a bad shape, game websites are even worse. I hardly read anything they write, unless it's linked in the forum and I know from comments that is worth reading.

    Anyone remember Gamecenter.com, back in what... 1998? They were good. They were forced to close, or got fired, and another "kissmyass" standard team was hired.

  • ChicagoCubChicagoCub Member UncommonPosts: 381

    Huh? the game was only released for 10 days in 2011.  PC Gamer did the same thing .   I suspect the articles were written and submitted to Bioware for approval long before release.  Want any more advertisement,s interviews, or special offers from Bioware?  Throw awards and high ratings at their games.

  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841

    I look forward to Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation fame giving this game both barrels for 5 minutes of hilarity.

    I agree with the above poster, i think there's a market for a site that offers sarcastic, dry and depressing reviews such as Yahtzee. He even lambasts the games he loves.

    I trust reviewers that constantly crap on every game rather than ones that suspiciously love every game. I personally can judge a game alot better knowing whats crap about it, rather than having someone tell me what they like.

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  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r Member UncommonPosts: 496

    Hmm afaik reviewing games is not a science. I am not into conspiracy theories so I think that most reviews are just honest personal opinion of the author.

    The only problem is how much importance you attribute to the reviews. I think swtor is a great learning lesson, at least for me.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 35,169

    Rift deserved Game of the year, because, you know, it actually came out with enough year for people to really experience it as as a launched title.

    SWTOR can go up against GW2 and perhaps TSW and we'll see if its a real contender worthy of its title.

     

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  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841

    Game of the Year

    Released 20th December

    Those two facts are contradictory and as such, makes these websites' opinions defunct.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Rift deserved Game of the year, because, you know, it actually came out with enough year for people to really experience it as as a launched title.

    SWTOR can go up against GW2 and perhaps TSW and we'll see if its a real contender worthy of its title.

     

    If the media was more objective this would probably be the case. They're not objective though, it could have simply boiled down to these writers not liking Rift for any given reason, rather than judging it on it's success and dev teams attitude toward it's playerbase, they judged it on personal preference.

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  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,623

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Rift deserved Game of the year, because, you know, it actually came out with enough year for people to really experience it as as a launched title.

    SWTOR can go up against GW2 and perhaps TSW and we'll see if its a real contender worthy of its title.

     

    Technically, it can't.  Not as far as magazine reviews go, because it was released at the end of 2011.  Like I said, in 2012 SWTOR would not have gotten GOTY, and I'm beginning to wonder if the conspiracy nuts around here are right... "let's release in late December and rake in some GOTY awards, people will think our product is something special".  It's actually lucky to have gotten any awards.  And even then, I think Rift plays better.

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Member UncommonPosts: 1,283

    Rift deserves it over Star Wars anyways. Star Wars is a horrible MMO made on a gigantic budget.

  • iamflymoloiamflymolo Member Posts: 152

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Rift deserved Game of the year, because, you know, it actually came out with enough year for people to really experience it as as a launched title.

    SWTOR can go up against GW2 and perhaps TSW and we'll see if its a real contender worthy of its title.

     

    Technically, it can't.  Not as far as magazine reviews go, because it was released at the end of 2011.  Like I said, in 2012 SWTOR would not have gotten GOTY, and I'm beginning to wonder if the conspiracy nuts around here are right... "let's release in late December and rake in some GOTY awards, people will think our product is something special".  It's actually lucky to have gotten any awards.  And even then, I think Rift plays better.

    Traditionally, games that are released late in a year are in consideration the following year. WoW, for example, was released November 23, 2004 and cleaned up during the 2005 award season. It also won a lot of awards in 2004 which was probably based primarily on hype and not sound judgment, but at least the reviewers had time to play it before giving it awards which is different from the swtor December 20 release and game of the year gifts a couple days later.

  • DoomedfoxDoomedfox Member UncommonPosts: 679

    Originally posted by Vegetto

    Game of the Year

    Released 20th December

    Those two facts are contradictory and as such, makes these websites' opinions defunct.

    What would the date of the release have to do with anything?

    If the game is awesome and just the best it gets the reward (not saying  SWOTOR deserved it or not)

    Skyrim came out 11.11 and got a lot of Game of the Year awars and i think most would agree it deserved the awards regardless of the release date.

    So does SWOTOR deserve this award?? who knows but the release date certainly doesnt matter at all.

  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,234

    Originally posted by Vegetto

    I look forward to Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation fame giving this game both barrels for 5 minutes of hilarity.

    I agree with the above poster, i think there's a market for a site that offers sarcastic, dry and depressing reviews such as Yahtzee. He even lambasts the games he loves.

    I trust reviewers that constantly crap on every game rather than ones that suspiciously love every game. I personally can judge a game alot better knowing whats crap about it, rather than having someone tell me what they like.

    My son turned me on to Yahtzee at Zero Punctuation. Brilliant stuff and you just know SWTOR would be an absolute cracker. It has so much that you could take the piss out of.

  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841


    Originally posted by Doomedfox


    Originally posted by Vegetto
    Game of the Year
    Released 20th December
    Those two facts are contradictory and as such, makes these websites' opinions defunct.

    What would the date of the release have to do with anything?
    If the game is awesome and just the best it gets the reward (not saying  SWOTOR deserved it or not)
    Skyrim came out 11.11 and got a lot of Game of the Year awars and i think most would agree it deserved the awards regardless of the release date.
    So does SWOTOR deserve this award?? who knows but the release date certainly doesnt matter at all.

    It was my impression that the awards would be based on gameplay.

    As they have all awarded SWTOR game of the year based on 10 days of it being released, over Christmas, it would appear that is not the case, as this is a MMO, not a re-release of Hasbro Interactives Monopoly.

    Which begs the question therefore: Just what criteria were the awards based on?

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  • CavodCavod Member Posts: 295

    Originally posted by Doomedfox

    Originally posted by Vegetto

    Game of the Year

    Released 20th December

    Those two facts are contradictory and as such, makes these websites' opinions defunct.

    What would the date of the release have to do with anything?

    If the game is awesome and just the best it gets the reward (not saying  SWOTOR deserved it or not)

    Skyrim came out 11.11 and got a lot of Game of the Year awars and i think most would agree it deserved the awards regardless of the release date.

    So does SWOTOR deserve this award?? who knows but the release date certainly doesnt matter at all.

    Arg, you beat me to it.

     

    I'm curious to know the answer to this from those saying a late 2011 release date disqualifies it for 2011 goty.  Mind you I'm not asking whether it deserves it or not but am askingt the logic, reason and why.  What should the cutoff date be then? Should we not work within a calendar year?  etc etc 

     

    It's easy to destroy(be negative) but hard to build up(be positive).  How about we start adding positive with our negative instead of just 'grumble grumble grumble'.

    We really need separate forums for every newly launched game. There can be the anti-<MMO> one and there can be the 'what general discussion should be' one. All the lamenting can happen together where each can find solace in like minded can't-move-on-ers leaving the rest of us to actually move forward and discuss meaningful and relevant topics.

  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841


    Originally posted by Gorilla

    Originally posted by Vegetto
    I look forward to Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation fame giving this game both barrels for 5 minutes of hilarity.
    I agree with the above poster, i think there's a market for a site that offers sarcastic, dry and depressing reviews such as Yahtzee. He even lambasts the games he loves.
    I trust reviewers that constantly crap on every game rather than ones that suspiciously love every game. I personally can judge a game alot better knowing whats crap about it, rather than having someone tell me what they like.
    My son turned me on to Yahtzee at Zero Punctuation. Brilliant stuff and you just know SWTOR would be an absolute cracker. It has so much that you could take the piss out of.

    Yeh, i was actually watching them saturday. I'm sure he will review SWTOR soon due to the hype spam of it and what will he say? Put it this way, he crucified Modern Warfare 3 and Battlefield 3, due to them being re-hashed versions of previous games in the genre. SWTOR may force him to make a 30 minute video :)

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