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So where's this mass exodus?? Looks like the hate community was wrong!
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European Side I take it? Because I was selecting a new server once again on the NA ones in the hopes to find one with a better population and there were a couple that side showing light. Most were at standard. Which outside of game companies by others people's version of standard that should also probably be light. A few were at heavy and there were actually a couple that were full with estimated queue times.
So no massive exodus but they weren't as full as you're making them out to be either.
I can't keep track if I'm a hater or biodrone at this point on forums amongst posters. Seems poster's opinions of that towards me change per topic I respond to.
EDIT: ...and to clarify I'm referring to yesterday evening when this topic was apparently made. Not this morning. Although I wish I was playing this morning because that would mean I wasn't stuck at work :P
Or fucking around on these forums.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
some are but a lot are not.. i'm fine with themeparks and played pretty much every big one for least 6 months.... you want reasons why people hate this game just watch the video review i posted above your post
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
Everyone knew it was gonna be a themepark....They just didnt know it was gonna be such an underwhelming one.
Edit: I preordered with every intention of enjoying a themepark, Dark side vs Light side pvp themepark....what i ended up getting were story lines that got old after a while, a very lame consular story line because i rolled republic...might have enjoyed empire a bit more but choose repub cause i knew everyone would roll empire.
Th first free month is barely over, get a grip. It will happen, no worries.
Grim Dawn, the next great action rpg!
http://www.grimdawn.com/
It's a good game. Not great or earth shattering, but good.
The game has some key areas it's going to need to shore up before it can reach the status of MMO Juggernaut. The bulk of which have been posed by other poasters on the forum.
Elikal has stated numerous times that the game worlds need to be more immersive. I agree with him.
Countless posters have stated that the game needs sandbox elements injected into it and that Ilum isn't enough. I likewise agree.
Countless Posters have commented on the linear leveling issue and lack of leveling options. I agree, but YMMV... I know folks who are loving it the way it is.
Pony has cited for a need to optimize thier system to reduce loading times, more open world encounter (PvP/PvE opportunities, and a dynamic endgame (Pony, I seriously hope my paraphrasing hit the mark and if it didn't, I'm very sorry!)
Every single one of them is right, in my opinion. It doesn't make the game a bad one though... It's got some opportunities that really aren't hard to overcome with resources and a little time. We'll see what the next six updates brings as that's where the meat will be. Up to then, it's really just the shine of a new game.
What made games like WoW, EQ, AC, DAoC, and EvE great was the fact that you never knew what experience or interaction you would stumble into next. Good or ill, Funny or sad, your experiences could vary. This game needs and does not have this yet , IMO. The sandbox of player(s) contributions in the game is what made those games great. That sandbox is where the community and server pride gets formed.It's literally what differentiates a games servers. The different thempark attractions are needed and awesome, but a game needs some measure of both to be great.
I noticed this as well, there is baiting going on in blogs as well as these same people repeat themselves like broken records but nothing will ever be done. I'm not sure this site was ever about mmo's as much as a forum of jaded burned out mmo players who over hype then try to destroy each and every game that comes thru here. Its why I hardly post these days and haven't posted all that much for a couple years.
Only thing they are ever wrong on is what will be the WoW Killer.
http://www.swtorarena.com/statistics/
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MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
Amazing this Thread is still going, I should pull my graph out again!
Chart is a fluke that can't be used at all to measure player population, as the chart creators themselves have stated multiple times. Try again ^_^We can throw in the xfire charts and they show the opposite so this kinda disproves your point here.
I take back what I said in the beginning about two months. It is now a year. A year will tell if people stick with the game or not.
This is the most factual graph I have seen so far. I'm not even going to ask for the source
The point about changing the actual ranges for "Light", "Medium", "Heavy" is right. The devs can change those. People are quiting. I discontinued the sub untill they fix the PvP - did it the last day before being charged as I won't tolerate such an attitude from devs (they released an "update" 1.1 which made the game even worse, added lots of bugs). The game is unfinished in terms of PvP. But when I was discontinuing I had to use the direct link to cancel the sub as they REMOVED THE BUTTON which cancels sub on the 19 of Jan. This is lots of desperation from devs sensing they will lose subs. Dirty move. Likely servers showing "Heavy" load is another dirty move.
awesome!
Stop reposting pictures. You flood the forum.
well, one thing we could do is look at the parallels between SWTOR and two other "failed" yet hyped games.
SWTOR, AoC and WAR:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Conan:_Hyborian_Adventures#Reception
"The game received "generally favorable reviews" according to Metacritic.[39] The game was "very inviting and plays well" according to VariableGHz.[49] Player reactions were overwhelmingly negative in the months following the release, as the game was plagued by a vast number of bugs, missing zones, broken encounters and total lack of end-game content."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Online:_Age_of_Reckoning#Critical_reception
"Warhammer Online initially received favorable reviews... Warhammer Online has an aggregate score of 86% on metacritic.com[24] and 87% GameRankings.com...As of September 30, 2008, WAR had sold 1.2 million copies and had 800,000 registered users...As of May 5, 2009, Electronic Arts executives confirmed in an investor conference that they have 300,000 subscribers as of the end of March 2009...Consequently, the number of servers was drastically reduced[36] in order to consolidate the remaining population...Since December 14, 2011, the game is now down to 3 servers, one for the US, one for Germany and one for the rest of Europe not including Germany.
Also, Warhammer Online had a plethora of awards, way more than SWTOR. See them here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Online:_Age_of_Reckoning#Awards
yet still, three years later most people think of it as a failed product and something they would never play, even as F2P, which is kind of is now
AoC is much better now of course, but that's after 3 years of development...
So history may repeat itself again
I review lots of indie games and MMORPGs
People expected a spiritual successor to DAOC and didn't get it with WAR and AoC doesn't even come close in comparison with the mess it was in.
I am afraid it will.
WoW also wasn't bug free, but it was the peoneer. For some reason the new titles developers think they can enjoy the same privileges WoW did and take their time fixing the bugs and developing the game on the go. No they can't - they have to learn from the peoneers and release the product at least as good as WoW (or even better)! People are unhappy with WoW - how SWTOR developers think they will win their favour with the half-finished PvP system?