Post your complete list of parts and let's see what you've got. Post everything, not just a few "main" specs. And post as much detail as you can. For most things, the exact brand name and model would be ideal, if you have it.
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario System Model: AY138AA-ABA CQ5320Y BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/07/10 11:37:11 Ver: 5.17 Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz Memory: 3072MB RAM Available OS Memory: 3072MB RAM Page File: 1792MB used, 4348MB available Windows Dir: C:Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: Using System DPI System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce GTX 560 Ti DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
does this help??
When I play Rift, I can set everything to Ultra settings but it is pretty choppy.. I get about between 15-35fps.. By reading my specs, what are the main reasons for the choppyness and lack of fps?
I would guess first off - lack of memory. You only have 3G (why on earth I have no idea) - Windows 7 64 is going to use about 2G of that, and Aion needs about 2G (it's only a 32-bit program, but it uses right up to it's 2G limit). So your trying to run 4G of stuff on 3G of RAM - and that is going to be a huge slowdown.
Secondly, your Athlon II is probably hurting a bit on that as well. It's not an upper tier CPU, and only dual core. Aion can't really spread across many cores effectively, but the Athlon II line isn't great per core in the first place.
You have a classic case of throwing a nice video card into an underpowered system, and wondering why it still runs poorly. Upgrading the motherboard/CPU/RAM is definitely a step in the right direction.
Post your complete list of parts and let's see what you've got. Post everything, not just a few "main" specs. And post as much detail as you can. For most things, the exact brand name and model would be ideal, if you have it.
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario
System Model: AY138AA-ABA CQ5320Y
BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/07/10 11:37:11 Ver: 5.17
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3072MB RAM
Page File: 1792MB used, 4348MB available
Windows Dir: C:Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 560 Ti
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
does this help??
When I play Rift, I can set everything to Ultra settings but it is pretty choppy.. I get about between 15-35fps.. By reading my specs, what are the main reasons for the choppyness and lack of fps?
I would guess first off - lack of memory. You only have 3G (why on earth I have no idea) - Windows 7 64 is going to use about 2G of that, and Aion needs about 2G (it's only a 32-bit program, but it uses right up to it's 2G limit). So your trying to run 4G of stuff on 3G of RAM - and that is going to be a huge slowdown.
Secondly, your Athlon II is probably hurting a bit on that as well. It's not an upper tier CPU, and only dual core. Aion can't really spread across many cores effectively, but the Athlon II line isn't great per core in the first place.
You have a classic case of throwing a nice video card into an underpowered system, and wondering why it still runs poorly. Upgrading the motherboard/CPU/RAM is definitely a step in the right direction.
Ah I see. Though I was talking about Rift not Aion I had the same problem in Aion as well.. Thank you
You can check to see if memory is the problem pretty directly. Run the game and then open Task Manager with the game running. Go to the performance tab and see how much system memory you have in use. If it's most of what you have in teh system, then memory is probably a limiting factor. If you've got 1 GB or so unused ("Available" in Windows 7), then you're not meaningfully limited by memory capacity.
One rule of thumb is that if a game won't run well at low settings, it's a processor problem. If a game runs great at low settings, but poorly at high settings, it's a video card problem. There are exceptions to both of those, but that's a good place to start looking for a bottleneck.
Note also that the problem might be simply that you're trying to max settings. Some fancy lighting settings can put a huge load on the video card for only a slight change in image quality. Shadows, SSAO, and depth of field are examples of settings that can do just that. In some games, the game may run poorly at max settings, but if you turn off a few lighting settings and leave everything else maxed, the game will run very well--and not necessarily look any worse.
If you want to insist on maxing settings in every game, then you're going to have to spend vastly more than if you merely want high settings that will make the game look nice. There are plenty of games where a GeForce GTX 560 Ti will choke if you really try to max everything. That doesn't mean it's a bad card. It only means that, no matter how fast your hardware is, someone can write software slow enough that it chokes. There's a saying that, "What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away."
You can check to see if memory is the problem pretty directly. Run the game and then open Task Manager with the game running. Go to the performance tab and see how much system memory you have in use. If it's most of what you have in teh system, then memory is probably a limiting factor. If you've got 1 GB or so unused ("Available" in Windows 7), then you're not meaningfully limited by memory capacity.
One rule of thumb is that if a game won't run well at low settings, it's a processor problem. If a game runs great at low settings, but poorly at high settings, it's a video card problem. There are exceptions to both of those, but that's a good place to start looking for a bottleneck.
Note also that the problem might be simply that you're trying to max settings. Some fancy lighting settings can put a huge load on the video card for only a slight change in image quality. Shadows, SSAO, and depth of field are examples of settings that can do just that. In some games, the game may run poorly at max settings, but if you turn off a few lighting settings and leave everything else maxed, the game will run very well--and not necessarily look any worse.
If you want to insist on maxing settings in every game, then you're going to have to spend vastly more than if you merely want high settings that will make the game look nice. There are plenty of games where a GeForce GTX 560 Ti will choke if you really try to max everything. That doesn't mean it's a bad card. It only means that, no matter how fast your hardware is, someone can write software slow enough that it chokes. There's a saying that, "What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away."
Also something I noticed was that when I lower the resolution in Rift, it runs much WORSE then when it is 1080p..
I was just told that we have a good moniter, keyboard and mouse so I dont need to buy those. So that along with not needing to buy an operating system takes a lot off the price. Is there anything else I can upgrade a little more just got get some better performance considering I dont need to buy a few more things now?
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I would guess first off - lack of memory. You only have 3G (why on earth I have no idea) - Windows 7 64 is going to use about 2G of that, and Aion needs about 2G (it's only a 32-bit program, but it uses right up to it's 2G limit). So your trying to run 4G of stuff on 3G of RAM - and that is going to be a huge slowdown.
Secondly, your Athlon II is probably hurting a bit on that as well. It's not an upper tier CPU, and only dual core. Aion can't really spread across many cores effectively, but the Athlon II line isn't great per core in the first place.
You have a classic case of throwing a nice video card into an underpowered system, and wondering why it still runs poorly. Upgrading the motherboard/CPU/RAM is definitely a step in the right direction.
Ah I see. Though I was talking about Rift not Aion I had the same problem in Aion as well.. Thank you
You can check to see if memory is the problem pretty directly. Run the game and then open Task Manager with the game running. Go to the performance tab and see how much system memory you have in use. If it's most of what you have in teh system, then memory is probably a limiting factor. If you've got 1 GB or so unused ("Available" in Windows 7), then you're not meaningfully limited by memory capacity.
One rule of thumb is that if a game won't run well at low settings, it's a processor problem. If a game runs great at low settings, but poorly at high settings, it's a video card problem. There are exceptions to both of those, but that's a good place to start looking for a bottleneck.
Note also that the problem might be simply that you're trying to max settings. Some fancy lighting settings can put a huge load on the video card for only a slight change in image quality. Shadows, SSAO, and depth of field are examples of settings that can do just that. In some games, the game may run poorly at max settings, but if you turn off a few lighting settings and leave everything else maxed, the game will run very well--and not necessarily look any worse.
If you want to insist on maxing settings in every game, then you're going to have to spend vastly more than if you merely want high settings that will make the game look nice. There are plenty of games where a GeForce GTX 560 Ti will choke if you really try to max everything. That doesn't mean it's a bad card. It only means that, no matter how fast your hardware is, someone can write software slow enough that it chokes. There's a saying that, "What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away."
Also something I noticed was that when I lower the resolution in Rift, it runs much WORSE then when it is 1080p..
Are you comparing windowed to full screen? If so, that could explain it. If not, that's really bizarre.
No. Full screen 1080p almost all max setting runs with much more fps then lower resolutions in full sceen for some reason
Hey Quizzical,
I was just told that we have a good moniter, keyboard and mouse so I dont need to buy those. So that along with not needing to buy an operating system takes a lot off the price. Is there anything else I can upgrade a little more just got get some better performance considering I dont need to buy a few more things now?