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Concerning Origin Now

KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820

Well, as many of you know, Origin Now has been whored out many times on these boards. I have a request. Take down the page in your signatures. Chopes completely bailed on me after hearing that I found out he had done many investigations on me to recover such things as school pictures, report cards, and many other things. What a freak. The situation got worse for him after Murt revieled that Chopes still had admin rights torwards the site. Chopes even once told former member Pizzafarno that he would unban him if he gave him his Guild Wars account. What a scam. Chopes has banned me from everything OriginNow, including FTP access, admin panel, and Xpanel. At this very moment, my IP is blocked on mmorpg.com and I am using a proxy. As if the banner had enough time to announce my subnet, ha. Who knows....


Anyways, Origin Now is a bust. Everyone who signed up for their "hosting service" has been bailed on. All promises have been broken. Please, take down the advertising. Waste that stalker's god damn bandwidth.


-Thanks

"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"

"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman

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  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875

    Look, Chopes was even kicked off the mmorpg.com staff and EV guild for his wonderful practices. He is a scammer as far as I know, trying to sell stolen property. PizzaFarno, trusting a fellow guildmate(Chopes) to help him level his character on GW when Chopes really planed to steal the account and sell it to a another guildmate. Lets not even get into his "connections" with well know scammer on the net.

  • noobletnooblet Member Posts: 2,274

    Wow thats crazy . chopes seemed like a nice guy too. Im suprised he did all those things.

  • HarelinHarelin Member UncommonPosts: 409

    I'm not surprised. For the sake of preventing drama and saving MMORPG.com some grief, we didn't pursue Chopes as a guild with that recent incident... although PizzaFarno did privately send logs to an MMORPG.com admin. It wasn't soon after that his mod title disappeared, and although Pizza never received a reply, I think it's safe to assume that we can applaud MMORPG.com for their quick handling of the situation upon receiving notice.

    In light of his run-in with Kiamde, I'm going to attempt to drill into this community that former (hopefully) MMORPG.com moderator Chopes is *not* to be trusted. He was removed from Eternal Vigilance for attempting to scam a fellow member - wasn't successful because we caught on before the deal went through. He's suspected of a lot more, but there's nothing else that can be pinned on him. It's worth mentioning, though, that as you'll see in the logs below... Origin Now was previously a charity donation website, something to do with sending medical supplies/doctors to India, if you believe him. He denies it, but that's really just a matter of opinion considering his background.

    Derfel and I had a final chat with Chopes after investigating. It goes a little like this...


    [21:33] The room title is now "|EV|Harelin".
    [21:34] chopes(|EV|Chopes) has entered the room.
    [21:34] derfelc(|EV|Derfel) has entered the room.
    [21:34] |EV|Derfel: Hi
    [21:34] |EV|Chopes: Hi
    [21:35] |EV|Harelin: all right, firstly, this is a perfectly harmless conversation... but some issues have been raised, so I want to get them nipped in the bud now before they needlessly threaten your reputation
    [21:36] |EV|Harelin: you offered me the GW account you told pizza you were merely renting out to a friend.
    [21:36] |EV|Harelin: what's up with that?
    [21:36] |EV|Chopes: er
    [21:36] |EV|Derfel: Harelin chatted with you about GW and you immedatly contacted Pizza
    [21:37] |EV|Harelin: my suspicions were raised when nik told me that you were offering a GW account - and so we tested you. you did immediately strike up a conversation with pizza.
    [21:37] |EV|Derfel: You seemed rather desperate to get it.
    [21:37] |EV|Harelin: and yes, pizza is offering a lvl 9 ranger
    [21:37] |EV|Chopes: yes
    [21:37] |EV|Derfel: We have logs. You promised to return the acount, but you were selling it
    [21:37] |EV|Harelin: If it's all just some misunderstanding, needn't let it get in the way of things... would just like this cleared up.
    [21:38] |EV|Chopes: er
    [21:38] |EV|Derfel: er?
    [21:39] |EV|Derfel: logic please
    [21:39] |EV|Harelin: and, well, that isn't all... if you'd like, we can continue.
    [21:39] |EV|Chopes: ok
    [21:39] |EV|Harelin: I recalled originnow's status as a charity website. You had it advertised on mmorpg.com
    [21:40] |EV|Chopes: mhm
    [21:40] |EV|Derfel: Three Nipled Diease?
    [21:40] |EV|Harelin: same answer, I take it?
    [21:40] |EV|Chopes: No lol
    [21:40] |EV|Derfel: This is Fraud
    [21:40] |EV|Chopes: we did work and we sent 2 over to india
    [21:40] |EV|Chopes: 2 trips that is
    [21:40] |EV|Chopes: but it fell apart after it was taken down from mmorpg.com for e3
    [21:40] |EV|Chopes: no donations
    [21:40] |EV|Derfel: I wonder why....
    [21:41] |EV|Chopes: why it was taken down?
    [21:41] |EV|Derfel: no donations
    [21:41] |EV|Chopes: Well we got donations
    [21:41] |EV|Chopes: when the ad was up
    [21:41] |EV|Chopes: and we made 2 trips
    [21:41] |EV|Chopes: but when e3 started we had to take ad down from mmorpg for more space
    [21:41] |EV|Chopes: and then it failed.
    [21:41] |EV|Chopes: I admit the pizza incident, not this
    [21:42] |EV|Derfel: We also have allegations that tells us you were offering bribes to unban people from mmorpg.com. There was a joke relating to "butt sex" when talking to a minor.
    [21:42] |EV|Chopes: err no accually
    [21:42] |EV|Chopes: I never said I would unban
    [21:42] |EV|Chopes: ask pizza he was asking me to unban
    [21:42] |EV|Chopes: and I was like i cant do that
    [21:42] |EV|Derfel: According to our sources you said you did. Then took it back
    [21:42] |EV|Derfel: But you offered it
    [21:42] |EV|Derfel: and then was afraid of the punishment of the admin
    [21:42] |EV|Chopes: how could I if I am not able to?
    [21:43] |EV|Harelin: We know that you said Craig wouldn't allow it, but this was initially what raised our suspicions... so that's that where that allegation is concerned.
    [21:43] |EV|Derfel: Doesn't matter- you offered it
    [21:43] |EV|Chopes: I cant unban people lol
    [21:43] |EV|Chopes: meh
    [21:43] |EV|Derfel: So you made it sound like you could. Pizza believed you.
    [21:43] |EV|Chopes: I told him I couldnt
    [21:43] |EV|Derfel: That's Fraud regardless of power.
    [21:43] |EV|Derfel: At the end you said that
    [21:43] |EV|Chopes: ok
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: At the beginging I said I could, then I relized I couldnt
    [21:44] |EV|Derfel: You offered
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: yes
    [21:44] |EV|Derfel: for personal profit
    [21:44] |EV|Derfel: its wrong
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: err no
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: personal profit?
    [21:44] |EV|Derfel: yes you did- donations
    [21:44] |EV|Derfel: 1 dollar each
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: he approached me
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: lol
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: wow..
    [21:44] |EV|Derfel: So cops do the same thing
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: it was a freaking joke
    [21:44] |EV|Derfel: Donations, and spaming your site all over
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: He said oooo
    [21:44] |EV|Chopes: ...
    [21:45] |EV|Derfel: 10 people?
    [21:45] |EV|Chopes: ?
    [21:45] |EV|Derfel: What happened to that offer?
    [21:45] |EV|Chopes: 10 people?
    [21:45] |EV|Derfel: 10 people go to Orgin Now
    [21:45] |EV|Chopes: eh?
    [21:45] |EV|Derfel: Sign up ned IPs
    [21:45] |EV|Chopes: oh
    [21:45] |EV|Chopes: yeah
    [21:45] |EV|Derfel: wow
    [21:45] |EV|Chopes: whats wrong with that?
    [21:45] |EV|Derfel: You are offering unbanning from mmorpg.com for PERSONAL PROFIT
    [21:45] |EV|Chopes: No I said I couldnt
    [21:46] |EV|Derfel: Later you did
    [21:46] |EV|Harelin: Pizza is Derfel's neighbor, btw, Chopes... if you're wondering why he got so involved. RL friends, just watching out for him.
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: But I said what I could do
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: yeah
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: I told him that I could do the website for him
    [21:46] |EV|Derfel: At frist you said you could
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: yeah
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: I did
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: then I knew i couldnt
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: so i said i couldnt
    [21:46] |EV|Derfel: unban him from mmorpg.com
    [21:46] |EV|Derfel: So its wrong
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: yes
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: And I said i couldnt soon after.
    [21:46] |EV|Derfel: You can't unban just for perosnal favors
    [21:46] |EV|Chopes: I cant unban people period...
    [21:46] |EV|Derfel: Its a morality issue my friend
    [21:47] |EV|Derfel: You thought you could, or made it sound as if you could
    [21:47] |EV|Chopes: yeah =/ that was wrong i admit that
    [21:47] |EV|Chopes: But those things your saying about donations via origin now
    [21:47] |EV|Chopes: thats complete crap
    [21:47] |EV|Chopes: If you want
    [21:48] |EV|Chopes: I have logs of what the doctors bought
    [21:48] |EV|Derfel: Donations- 1 dollar from him and friend
    [21:48] |EV|Chopes: i can mail em to you
    [21:48] |EV|Derfel: Ah- the donations charity thing
    [21:48] |EV|Chopes: yeah
    [21:48] |EV|Derfel: Can you explain to me your involvement with Mr. Jordan?
    [21:49] |EV|Chopes: joran
    [21:49] |EV|Chopes: is who
    [21:49] |EV|Derfel: The guy that registered your site
    [21:49] |EV|Chopes: yeah
    [21:49] |EV|Chopes: hes my provider?
    [21:49] |EV|Derfel: What do you know about him otherwise?
    [21:49] |EV|Chopes: mmmmm he did stuff with netbux
    [21:49] |EV|Chopes: but that failed
    [21:49] |EV|Chopes: thats where i met him
    [21:49] |EV|Chopes: why
    [21:50] |EV|Derfel: friends somehow?
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: errr I duno I guess were friends
    [21:50] |EV|Harelin: correct - he owned Pay Pup, or at least hosted their site - which was proven to be a scam. Affiliations with Netbux. I'm familiar with these two sites, used to use them myself..
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: ooo
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: I used Netbux
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: and he had a offer there
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: because he was starting his company i guess
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: and he had diffrent deals
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: I got like a years service
    [21:50] |EV|Harelin: did you know about the scamming allegations?
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: for like 20 bucks
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: no
    [21:50] |EV|Derfel: He is a known scammer
    [21:50] |EV|Harelin: this is more so just curiosity
    [21:50] |EV|Chopes: I did not know that
    [21:51] |EV|Chopes: He told me that after netbux went down
    [21:51] |EV|Chopes: he hadnt heard from chat
    [21:51] |EV|Chopes: err chad
    [21:51] |EV|Harelin: a quick google of midifox will reveal these ties for you
    [21:51] |EV|Chopes: hmmm
    [21:51] |EV|Chopes: one sec lemme see
    [21:52] |EV|Harelin: as well as Jordan Anders
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: whose Jordan anders?
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: who is rather
    [21:52] |EV|Harelin: midifox owner...
    [21:52] |EV|Derfel: Your host
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: wtf hold on
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: i just made a payment
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: like 2 hrs ago
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: and it had a diffrent name
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: one sec
    [21:52] |EV|Harelin: you had him register originnow.com for you, correct?
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: Payment To Bruce Abbott
    [21:52] |EV|Chopes: yeahg
    [21:53] |EV|Chopes: thats who i payed
    [21:53] |EV|Harelin: hmm
    [21:53] |EV|Chopes: for 37 37
    [21:53] |EV|Chopes: err
    [21:53] |EV|Chopes: wait
    [21:53] |EV|Chopes: 30 37 rather
    [21:53] |EV|Chopes: one second smiley
    [21:54] |EV|Chopes: Apr. 21, 2005 Payment To Jordan Anders
    [21:54] |EV|Chopes: hmmm
    [21:54] |EV|Chopes: mehhhh
    [21:54] |EV|Chopes: damn
    [21:54] |EV|Harelin: well, obviously I'd be double checking what I just walked into if I were you - but you can understand our hesitance after discovering your ties to a known scammer, and your deal with pizza
    [21:54] |EV|Chopes: yeah
    [21:54] |EV|Chopes: hmm
    [21:54] |EV|Harelin: so we'll leave that one alone for now
    [21:54] |EV|Chopes: ok
    [21:54] |EV|Harelin: what's the name of your wow character?
    [21:55] |EV|Chopes: Accountnaem?
    [21:55] |EV|Derfel: Guild?
    [21:55] |EV|Harelin: character name
    [21:55] |EV|Chopes: Hargo
    [21:55] |EV|Chopes: or Hergo
    [21:55] |EV|Chopes: forgot
    [21:55] |EV|Harelin: what level is he?
    [21:55] |EV|Chopes: 50 some
    [21:55] |EV|Chopes: Its been unactive
    [21:56] |EV|Derfel: How about the Unkown Guild?
    [21:56] |EV|Derfel: you know about it?
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: I made a guild
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: i dun member
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: It was Fire Guild
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: The fire guild or someting
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: i dont think that was it
    [21:56] |EV|Harelin: what did you mean by saying he was naked? you backpedalled when pizza asked you about seeing its thottbot page
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: like
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: i sold the gold on ebay
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: from his armor
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: because i wasnt playnig anymore
    [21:56] |EV|Harelin: ah, understandable
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: he doesnt have any amror or anything
    [21:56] |EV|Chopes: so naked
    [21:57] |EV|Harelin: may I ask you if your birthday is April 13th?
    [21:57] |EV|Chopes: August 19th
    [21:58] |EV|Harelin: well, we'll be honest here - given your mod status, I assume you're familiar with Djinn?
    [21:58] |EV|Chopes: errr ?
    [21:58] |EV|Derfel: Djin I think
    [21:58] |EV|Chopes: Never played it
    [21:58] |EV|Chopes: Why?
    [21:58] |EV|Derfel: Djin is a person
    [21:58] |EV|Chopes: err well I dont know who that is
    [21:58] |EV|Chopes: some gold seller?
    [21:59] |EV|Harelin: Djin was a former mmorpg.com mod who was caught scamming Murt. our thoughts immediately went back to him.
    [21:59] |EV|Chopes: oooo
    [21:59] |EV|Chopes: I think I came after that
    [22:00] |EV|Chopes: ah
    [22:00] |EV|Chopes: i see him
    [22:00] |EV|Chopes: he was back in 03
    [22:00] |EV|Derfel: He's on offtopic last page
    [22:00] |EV|Chopes: yeah
    [22:01] |EV|Chopes: well if you want check ips
    [22:01] |EV|Derfel: IPs are worthless my friend
    [22:01] |EV|Chopes: mmmm
    [22:01] |EV|Chopes: Well im not dijin
    [22:01] |EV|Chopes: Duno how I can prove that
    [22:01] |EV|Derfel: Not saying you are
    [22:01] |EV|Chopes: well your implying it
    [22:02] |EV|Chopes: why else would you bring it up
    [22:02] |EV|Harelin: you do live 5 hours away from his last known location - but we'll just leave it at that, since it was just a theory and given your propensity towards scamming we thought it worth it to look into.
    [22:02] |EV|Chopes: yeah yeah *sighs*
    [22:02] |EV|Derfel: Most scammers have a rather large experience at being dishonest
    [22:02] |EV|Chopes: indeed
    [22:03] |EV|Harelin: so let's go back to the pizza issue, with all that said... can you explain what your intentions were after you had sold the account to Nik or I, or someone else?
    [22:03] |EV|Chopes: well i told you
    [22:03] |EV|Chopes: im guilty with pizza
    [22:03] |EV|Chopes: but thats it
    [22:04] |EV|Chopes: I mean
    [22:04] |EV|Derfel: Your were going to steal accounts to make money?
    [22:04] |EV|Chopes: Yes It was a misake
    [22:04] |EV|Chopes: but
    [22:04] |EV|Derfel: *you
    [22:04] |EV|Chopes: Led to other things that werent me
    [22:04] |EV|Chopes: mmm I might have done it
    [22:04] |EV|Chopes: yes
    [22:04] |EV|Derfel: Scaming fellow guild members is, well rather sick...
    [22:04] |EV|Chopes: yes
    [22:05] |EV|Harelin: is this your first time?
    [22:05] |EV|Chopes: would have been =/
    [22:05] |EV|Harelin: I just have a hard time understanding how you were reduced to this after doing something so grand as a charity website...
    [22:06] |EV|Chopes: well
    [22:06] |EV|Chopes: I am not a fan of pizza, one of the reasons i might have done it
    [22:06] |EV|Chopes: Got on my nerves in the bords etc.
    [22:06] |EV|Chopes: chats
    [22:07] |EV|Chopes: meh not a good reason
    [22:07] |EV|Chopes: but he all around pissed me off in a subtle way.
    [22:07] |EV|Chopes: but yeah i understadn that isnt a good reason
    [22:07] |EV|Chopes: like for instance
    [22:08] |EV|Chopes: I got maybe a vibe, or some feeling from posts/chats that made me feel a certain way.
    [22:08] |EV|Chopes: not sure if you are following
    [22:08] |EV|Harelin: I'm following, everyone gets those vibes... just a matter of how you choose to act on them.
    [22:08] |EV|Chopes: and I oviously chose to act poorly
    [22:09] |EV|Harelin: All right, here's the deal then.
    [22:09] |EV|Chopes: But one thing I have learned
    [22:09] |EV|Chopes: from this ordeal
    [22:10] |EV|Chopes: Is the "true" meaning of a reputation, but I know that seems kinda cheesy.
    [22:10] |EV|Chopes: now if you decide to talk to me
    [22:10] |EV|Chopes: you will always be thinking
    [22:10] |EV|Chopes: know what i mean.
    [22:10] |EV|Chopes: meh
    [22:10] |EV|Harelin: I know what you mean.
    [22:10] |EV|Harelin: It's just a matter of where we choose to go from here.
    [22:10] |EV|Chopes: yeah
    [22:12] |EV|Harelin: I'm of the opinion that this has violated the trust of the guild... you seem like a great person, and I was excited to have you on board... but I think our paths are going to need to end there. We won't bring this up on the mmorpg.com forums, and we'll let this rest peacefully... I'm no fan of drama.
    [22:13] |EV|Harelin: I don't think it would be fair to Pizza to let you remain in EV after this, nor do I think you'd feel entirely comfortable either.
    [22:14] |EV|Derfel: I, personally, am quite offended as well. I hope you dont take this against EV
    [22:14] |EV|Chopes: I accually am thinking about resigning from mmorpg.com as well, i dont know
    [22:14] |EV|Chopes: im basicly ashamed
    [22:15] |EV|Harelin: That's a personal decision you'll have to make... but I'm glad you were up front about it.
    [22:15] |EV|Chopes: One thing I want to let you knnow
    [22:15] |EV|Chopes: not sure if you will trust me now but
    [22:15] |EV|Chopes: anyways
    [22:15] |EV|Chopes: Those other things
    [22:15] |EV|Chopes: I didnt do
    [22:15] |EV|Harelin: understood.
    [22:15] |EV|Chopes: I cant really prove that im not dijn
    [22:15] |EV|Derfel: Your probaly not.
    [22:16] |EV|Derfel: Im not going to say you are
    [22:16] |EV|Chopes: Im not sure if you want proof for the charity thing
    [22:16] |EV|Chopes: But I do have the proof
    [22:16] |EV|Chopes: Anyways
    [22:16] |EV|Chopes: Its been fun
    [22:16] |EV|Chopes: Thanks =/
    [22:16] |EV|Harelin: Likewise, Chopes, sorry it had to end here. Best of luck.
    [22:16] |EV|Chopes: you too
    [22:16] |EV|Derfel: Ok- we can let this end here. good luck
    [22:17] chopes(|EV|Chopes) has left the room.
  • grimweepergrimweeper Member Posts: 2,047

    holy shit. do you still talk to him kiamde becouse 2 days ago it looked like you were friends.

    shows you cant trust anyone.

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  • ArcariusArcarius Member Posts: 72

    Not to gloat in any way, but it seems like some key EV members have been involved with busting more than one scam.

    Those being the debunking of the Mourning leadership and the unfortunate situation Chopes put himself in.

    I think that's actually pretty cool, in an unfortunate but matter-of-fact way.

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  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701


    [22:12] |EV|Harelin: I'm of the opinion that this has violated the trust of the guild... you seem like a great person, and I was excited to have you on board... but I think our paths are going to need to end there. We won't bring this up on the mmorpg.com forums, and we'll let this rest peacefully... I'm no fan of drama.

    LOL so much for not bringing this up on the MMORPG.com Forums... I dont think the guys there will EVER know about it now :D

    [..... just pulling your leg a little bit :D]

    OH and Kiamde it's nice to see your old Sig back

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  • HarelinHarelin Member UncommonPosts: 409

    Yeah, I was far too nice about it in those logs... we went the good cop/bad cop route, but meh :/

    I thought we'd pretty much shamed him into submission at that point. Origin Now proved that wrong.

  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875

    Question to those envolved- What is with the "force" that pulled ON? It seems like the spaming and the adversiting was just amazing by mmorpg.com folks. Pizza reports that he was bribed to spam for ON, How about the rest you? What was in it for you?

  • SerienSerien Member CommonPosts: 8,460



    Originally posted by Kiamde

    Well, as many of you know, Origin Now has been whored out many times on these boards. I have a request. Take down the page in your signatures. Chopes completely bailed on me after hearing that I found out he had done many investigations on me to recover such things as school pictures, report cards, and many other things. What a freak. The situation got worse for him after Murt revieled that Chopes still had admin rights torwards the site. Chopes even once told former member Pizzafarno that he would unban him if he gave him his Guild Wars account. What a scam. Chopes has banned me from everything OriginNow, including FTP access, admin panel, and Xpanel. At this very moment, my IP is blocked on mmorpg.com and I am using a proxy. As if the banner had enough time to announce my subnet, ha. Who knows....

    Anyways, Origin Now is a bust. Everyone who signed up for their "hosting service" has been bailed on. All promises have been broken. Please, take down the advertising. Waste that stalker's god damn bandwidth.

    -Thanks




    heheh yea, everything was fine until I revealed what chopes really did, glad you did find out the truth and didn't put the blame on me :)

    I'm taking that out of my sig, and getting rid of that "owned by rathma" bs

    WHICH was uploaded to originnow.com might I add...

  • FilipinoFuryFilipinoFury Member Posts: 1,056

    WTF I put the link at the bottom of my sig for nothing. Ahh O well that site had a good run. . . .

    On Time? On Target? Never Quit?

  • KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820


    Originally posted by grimweeper

    holy shit. do you still talk to him kiamde becouse 2 days ago it looked like you were friends.
    shows you cant trust anyone.


    No. I was blocked on MSN. I have not spoken to him in days I don't plan to speak to him in the future.

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  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,358
    Murt, how did you find this out?
  • SerienSerien Member CommonPosts: 8,460




    Originally posted by dekron
    Murt, how did you find this out?





    he was telling me random things that one night we called enigma...

    well you don't know about that, so let me start.

    Chopes and I were talking on msn messenger, and he's like "hey dude, I just got a cell phone and don't know if it works, can ya call it? the number is *********** bla bla"

    so I called it, and Rob's (en1gma's wife) picked up, well after a bit of chatting I found out that was Rob's house.

    So chopes was kind've excited (and laughing obviously) so he told me to call Rob's work, well he dialed me, then flashed Rob, and we spoke a bit.

    Chopes was randomly looking for people to call, I believe he called me and flashed virtualdave once, and the guy who draws orcs in the chatroom often.

    We were looking for KT's number and he said he was calling KT after KT had given it to us, well apparently it was a wrong number, he asked "well did you talk to kiamde?" Obviously I didn't know what he was talking about, I thought he ment KT

    well come to find out, he'd been searching for Kiamde's phone number for sometime, all while we were talking to Rob and stuff, he was sending me random information about Kiamde like "Hey, did you know bla bla bla about Kiamde?" and obviously it was personal stuff, like extracurricular activities, graduation dates, school, grades, etc.

    Well finally I asked him "dude chopes..how the hell do you know all this?" and he's like "well I'm whoring my mmorpg.com moderator privileges, and I haxed his mmorpg.com email account" He as well sent me a link to an item that Kiamde had bought off of ebay.

    Considering that I was out of it (chopes said I was drunk) when he told me that he lost moderator privileges, I thought he was still a moderator, so I didn't think twice.

    Well later I found out that he did lose moderator privileges, well I told him to stop doing all that bs, and we had that thread going on mmorpg.com regarding all this stuff. Well I started taking screens of the pages and posting them on there, apparently he got pissed and started deleted my posts (look at my rank :( )

    Well obviously at the time of all this happening I was pretty pissed because of what had just happened with Jeff (Rathma) gaining access to my account, etc. And considering my sig was changed recently to an "owned by rathma" sig after changing my password 4 times, there was only one conclusion, that chopes still had access to the site and changed my sig in favor of Jeff.

    That put me off so I emailed Ben (meddle) telling him about chopes still having moderator privileges, this was after emailing Kiamde what had actually happened (since Chopes had been saying that I was trying to find out Kiamde's personal information, while I worked 14 hours a day I had never read enough on the boards to defend myself)

    Immideatly after I notified Ben about the ordeal, Chopes' IP was banned.

    You know...he DOES remind me a lot of Djin, and to think I found chopes three customers for "hosting", well atleast this time I didn't lose money like I did with Djin

     

  • noobletnooblet Member Posts: 2,274


    Originally posted by Serien

    Originally posted by dekron Murt, how did you find this out? he was telling me random things that one night we called enigma...
    well you don't know about that, so let me start.
    Chopes and I were talking on msn messenger, and he's like "hey dude, I just got a cell phone and don't know if it works, can ya call it? the number is *********** bla bla"
    so I called it, and Rob's (en1gma's wife) picked up, well after a bit of chatting I found out that was Rob's house.
    So chopes was kind've excited (and laughing obviously) so he told me to call Rob's work, well he dialed me, then flashed Rob, and we spoke a bit.
    Chopes was randomly looking for people to call, I believe he called me and flashed virtualdave once, and the guy who draws orcs in the chatroom often.
    We were looking for KT's number and he said he was calling KT after KT had given it to us, well apparently it was a wrong number, he asked "well did you talk to kiamde?" Obviously I didn't know what he was talking about, I thought he ment KT
    well come to find out, he'd been searching for Kiamde's phone number for sometime, all while we were talking to Rob and stuff, he was sending me random information about Kiamde like "Hey, did you know bla bla bla about Kiamde?" and obviously it was personal stuff, like extracurricular activities, graduation dates, school, grades, etc.
    Well finally I asked him "dude chopes..how the hell do you know all this?" and he's like "well I'm whoring my mmorpg.com moderator privileges, and I haxed his mmorpg.com email account" He as well sent me a link to an item that Kiamde had bought off of ebay.
    Considering that I was out of it (chopes said I was drunk) when he told me that he lost moderator privileges, I thought he was still a moderator, so I didn't think twice.
    Well later I found out that he did lose moderator privileges, well I told him to stop doing all that bs, and we had that thread going on mmorpg.com regarding all this stuff. Well I started taking screens of the pages and posting them on there, apparently he got pissed and started deleted my posts (look at my rank :( )
    Well obviously at the time of all this happening I was pretty pissed because of what had just happened with Jeff (Rathma) gaining access to my account, etc. And considering my sig was changed recently to an "owned by rathma" sig after changing my password 4 times, there was only one conclusion, that chopes still had access to the site and changed my sig in favor of Jeff.
    That put me off so I emailed Ben (meddle) telling him about chopes still having moderator privileges, this was after emailing Kiamde what had actually happened (since Chopes had been saying that I was trying to find out Kiamde's personal information, while I worked 14 hours a day I had never read enough on the boards to defend myself)
    Immideatly after I notified Ben about the ordeal, Chopes' IP was banned.
    You know...he DOES remind me a lot of Djin, and to think I found chopes three customers for "hosting", well atleast this time I didn't lose money like I did with Djin


    Jesus that is alot of shit that happened. So rathma was the one that actaully went into your account? Did he get banned? I havent seen him around the forums lately.

  • FilipinoFuryFilipinoFury Member Posts: 1,056

    I wonder who got into my account a while back? That is one hell of a counfusing story and now I understand why you changed your sig. So is Chopes IP banned?

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  • SerienSerien Member CommonPosts: 8,460



    Originally posted by nooblet


    Jesus that is alot of shit that happened. So rathma was the one that actaully went into your account? Did he get banned? I havent seen him around the forums lately.



    Out of this ordeal Rathma and Chopes were banned, however, it was on different standards.

    Rathma wasn't INVOLVED involved, he was just changing stuff in my account,

    chopes is a whole different story.

    EDIT*
    I hope this thread cleared up any confusion, and now that the whole story has been laid out I'm going to suggest a lock on this thread please.

    Any other questions you can either email to me or kiamde, but I feel we've made public what needed to be.

  • KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820

    I can only imagine how chopes knows my Ebay account name...


    Rathma was banned. I talk to him daily. He only did it for fun and since you once told him your PW he decided to jack around with your account. He didn't plan on coming back to the boards. He has a lot going on at the moment.

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  • SerienSerien Member CommonPosts: 8,460



    Originally posted by Kiamde

    I can only imagine how chopes knows my Ebay account name...

    Rathma was banned. I talk to him daily. He only did it for fun and since you once told him your PW he decided to jack around with your account. He didn't plan on coming back to the boards. He has a lot going on at the moment.



    No one knows my password. I never told him.

    Especially the password I was using at that time, the hell I gave it out. Never. No one knows it but meddle, admin, me...and well, apparently him now. But I did not tell him.

    Secondly, I changed it after that incident, apparently he still knew it because someone had edited a few posts after that. Unless that was chopes himself, could've been.

    I've since changed it four times, I'm sure the current one no one can figure out. But I never told him my password.

  • RazorbackRazorback Member Posts: 5,253

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  • JelloB2000JelloB2000 Member CommonPosts: 1,848

    ohh drama, drama, drama (increasing in volume but text cant show that).

    What is/was Origin Now? (I dont look at ads & I block those that blink or are animated)

    [Edit: ahh its in the last lines of 4:th post, missed that somehow. nvm]

  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701

    How did Djin scam you>>?!??


    and also Murt and Kiamde that is some messed up stuff..... It's good to see that your not taking it to Hard and Saying to Hell with MMORPG.Com. It's nice to see that you guys have some staying power... and are dedicated to this site...

    You got the Big one....Murt
    You gotta the big one Kiamde.....
    Cheers

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  • SerienSerien Member CommonPosts: 8,460

    haha thanks, but I'd never say that considering the current situation

    Craig and Ben provided prompt assistance on every matter presented to them.

    and the thing with djin...well, he was here for a while, and everyone trusted him, (I mean everyone)

    and at the time I was looking for a new television, well he said he had one up for sale. So we went ahead and set up a deal and I sent him a money order (mistake)

    well he disappeared, blocked on everything, I guess he changed all his screen names for everything else as no one else sees him online anymore either, disappeared from the site, bla bla bla.

     

  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,358

    Still looking for that TV. I've got a 19" color for sale. $25 + shipping (no clue the shipping price). Nothing Wrong with it (except it is missing remote).

  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701

    Really?! wow... And I guess that whole story that his wife was being held in Canada and he was in the US was a big lie then...
    Wow And i was actually feeling sorry for him... My personally I've only been scammed once... i tried to buy a Copy of Socom 2 on EBAY and the guy never followed through... he eventually said that he sent it and I was lieing that I got it...

    Never bought anything on Ebay again... but that was only $20-$30 down the drain... how much did the TV cost you?

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  • SerienSerien Member CommonPosts: 8,460



    Originally posted by dekron

    Still looking for that TV. I've got a 19" color for sale. $25 + shipping (no clue the shipping price). Nothing Wrong with it (except it is missing remote).




    nah, I'm good..thanks

    I took a loan from a friend after that and bought a 32inch high def flat screen...

    just finished paying him off recently.

    and the whole djin ordeal only cost me like 50 bucks, was no biggy

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