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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378

    It's just a fun topic lol Watching Tom Cruise use the force on Oprah still makes me lolimage 

    I think they are messed up too, but I do agree that Psychiatrists prescribe too many drugs. People are lazy and want a pill to make them happy and fix their lives. Well guess what, eating right, exercising and changing your environment will do that. Not in all cases of course but I think sometimes people would benefit more from getting a life than taking a pill.

    My 2 adena.

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  • RazorbackRazorback Member Posts: 5,253

    Exercise image ?

    Where do I sign up for scientology ?image

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  • ElapsedElapsed Member UncommonPosts: 2,329

    Scientology looks fun! Let them have their fun.

    I could careless about the back story. What ethics are they pushing? Good for all? If so, then I'm all for them.

  • MalicusMalicus Member Posts: 307

    Selfish armchair philosophers who dont believe in mentally ill. Tom Cruise cares of no one but himself ,same with John Travolta. Research the excess they spend their riches on. Hangars full of Jumbo Jets on their property. And now they come up with a new-age "religion" of convenience? Just that horrible people like them would grasp onto this should be warning enough. I can see this becoming a dangerous cult with a scandolous outcome in the near future.  wait till Katie writes her book after the failed arrangement .

  • RazorbackRazorback Member Posts: 5,253



    Originally posted by Malicus

    Selfish armchair philosophers who dont believe in mentally ill. Tom Cruise cares of no one but himself ,same with John Travolta. Research the excess they spend their riches on. Hangars full of Jumbo Jets on their property. And now they come up with a new-age "religion" of convenience? Just that horrible people like them would grasp onto this should be warning enough. I can see this becoming a dangerous cult with a scandolous outcome in the near future.  wait till Katie writes her book after the failed arrangement .



    What do you mean "becoming a dangerous cult"

    If you ask the hundreds of people that have been rescued by their families from these moon units and spent months and years in "de programming" by recognised phychiatric specialists... they would argue it always has been a dangerous cult.

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  • MalicusMalicus Member Posts: 307
    I stand corrected
  • metalfoxusmetalfoxus Member Posts: 805



    Originally posted by Malicus

    Selfish armchair philosophers who dont believe in mentally ill. Tom Cruise cares of no one but himself ,same with John Travolta. Research the excess they spend their riches on. Hangars full of Jumbo Jets on their property. And now they come up with a new-age "religion" of convenience? Just that horrible people like them would grasp onto this should be warning enough. I can see this becoming a dangerous cult with a scandolous outcome in the near future.  wait till Katie writes her book after the failed arrangement .



    SCAAAANDOLOUSS!!!

    (I used to watch "recess" as a kid)

  • billiebillie Member UncommonPosts: 400

    think some comunist guy stated religion is the opiate of the masses.
    Psychiatry, (medicine by consensus vs conscientious) recall this brain science used to just vivisect the brain or use voltage to fry synapses. That was proper medical treatment! or mayby just bind people in a water tub or just a straight jacket if the water bill was too high. Today pushing drugs (priced 3 and 4X higher in the US than the rest of the world) is just an easier trial and error approach to placify the paying customer.
    Sex, espeically state approved mariage is indeed a scam. In fact sex outside of marriage is considered illegal particularily if is is done between same sex or different species. Another aspect of deviate behavior. Most religions tend to prohibit sex with inferior races, religious types or other singled out punishment deserving groups.
    Religion, get real! Catholicism from the beginning just took from where Yeshua (yes, the catholics changed the name of the "Savior" to further demonstrate their power in setting dogma.) The church has a long history of using science, medicine and other supports to suppress and execute 'heritics' and people that would not pony up enough $ for indulgences so the priesthood could sell forgiveness. 'JC' despised the jewish kohen priesthood that sold their allegiance to the occupying romans so as to continue their position of clerical authority over the rebelious jews in Israel. Mohamud has a dream and quotes the Koran, and this is supposed to be defacto word of G.
    Supposedly G and JC and all those other devine beings are there, but no Word verifying nor supporting what mankind currently does in their name today. No more prophets that can speak for the Devine, yet every preacher thumps his "bible" as the source and justification for his mental illness. If one proclaims to hear and follow the Voice of G, modern psychiatry instantly locks him away, fry or slice up the brain to silence that person or if that person can demonstrate Devine Power the person is nearly as quickly assinated to protect the scams all 'organized' religions utalize to keep going. (Bow down and present offerings to those idols in your churches, murder others designated as infidel, cover up your priest that for decades molest innocents that were supposedly in your care.)
    The concept of religious tolerance is not extended to "cults" especially if they offer more convincing dogma that pulls membership from the powers that be. The Jew and Catholic priest held religious study was not for the common man to understand, that should be left to those properly schooled for interpretation and they did everything possibe to keep those teachings from the common man. Leave the common man to prayers, except if those prayers get answered.. "is anybody out there" yes, there are no aliens, no other technologies that have come and gone in the countless timespan of the universe, no realities other than this linear dimension, certanly no 'here-after' where the Divinities people pray to rule with a more direct effect. In fact that "psychiatry" you hold in such high esteem holds there is no G, nor angels nor devils, just take your pill and shut up!

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  • dsorrentdsorrent Member CommonPosts: 1,627


    Originally posted by billie
    think some comunist guy stated religion is the opiate of the masses.
    Psychiatry, (medicine by consensus vs conscientious) recall this brain science used to just vivisect the brain or use voltage to fry synapses. That was proper medical treatment! or mayby just bind people in a water tub or just a straight jacket if the water bill was too high. Today pushing drugs (priced 3 and 4X higher in the US than the rest of the world) is just an easier trial and error approach to placify the paying customer.
    Sex, espeically state approved mariage is indeed a scam. In fact sex outside of marriage is considered illegal particularily if is is done between same sex or different species. Another aspect of deviate behavior. Most religions tend to prohibit sex with inferior races, religious types or other singled out punishment deserving groups.
    Religion, get real! Catholicism from the beginning just took from where Yeshua (yes, the catholics changed the name of the "Savior" to further demonstrate their power in setting dogma.) The church has a long history of using science, medicine and other supports to suppress and execute 'heritics' and people that would not pony up enough $ for indulgences so the priesthood could sell forgiveness. 'JC' despised the jewish kohen priesthood that sold their allegiance to the occupying romans so as to continue their position of clerical authority over the rebelious jews in Israel. Mohamud has a dream and quotes the Koran, and this is supposed to be defacto word of G.
    Supposedly G and JC and all those other devine beings are there, but no Word verifying nor supporting what mankind currently does in their name today. No more prophets that can speak for the Devine, yet every preacher thumps his "bible" as the source and justification for his mental illness. If one proclaims to hear and follow the Voice of G, modern psychiatry instantly locks him away, fry or slice up the brain to silence that person or if that person can demonstrate Devine Power the person is nearly as quickly assinated to protect the scams all 'organized' religions utalize to keep going. (Bow down and present offerings to those idols in your churches, murder others designated as infidel, cover up your priest that for decades molest innocents that were supposedly in your care.)
    The concept of religious tolerance is not extended to "cults" especially if they offer more convincing dogma that pulls membership from the powers that be. The Jew and Catholic priest held religious study was not for the common man to understand, that should be left to those properly schooled for interpretation and they did everything possibe to keep those teachings from the common man. Leave the common man to prayers, except if those prayers get answered.. "is anybody out there" yes, there are no aliens, no other technologies that have come and gone in the countless timespan of the universe, no realities other than this linear dimension, certanly no 'here-after' where the Divinities people pray to rule with a more direct effect. In fact that "psychiatry" you hold in such high esteem holds there is no G, nor angels nor devils, just take your pill and shut up!

    I've read this through twice and I'm not really sure it makes any sense? It just seems like a conglomorate of abstract thoughts which I can't even tell if you are for or against Scientology.

  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875
    I agree, that made absoultely no sense. I think he is pro-scientology(judging from his lack of logic, reasoning skills and his crazy statements thrown at doctors) but anti-orgnaized relgion(hates jews and catholics). Just a guessimage
  • metalfoxusmetalfoxus Member Posts: 805
    Why the hell do you idiots care what he believes? If i'm not mistaken, some "Christian Scientists" don't believe in medication, and that God will cure them. Noone can prove their religion is right, or someone elses beliefs are wrong. I can think of plenty of other scam artists associated with other religions as well. Why don't you try and look at the faults in your religion before pointing out whats wrong with someone elses? Damn you people can be stupid!
  • dsorrentdsorrent Member CommonPosts: 1,627


    Originally posted by metalfoxus
    Why the hell do you idiots care what he believes? If i'm not mistaken, some "Christian Scientists" don't believe in medication, and that God will cure them. Noone can prove their religion is right, or someone elses beliefs are wrong. I can think of plenty of other scam artists associated with other religions as well. Why don't you try and look at the faults in your religion before pointing out whats wrong with someone elses? Damn you people can be stupid!

    Idiots? I'm going to assume your post is in regards to people being interested in Tom Cruise and not my post two up from yours.

  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875



    Originally posted by metalfoxus
    Why the hell do you idiots care what he believes? If i'm not mistaken, some "Christian Scientists" don't believe in medication, and that God will cure them. Noone can prove their religion is right, or someone elses beliefs are wrong. I can think of plenty of other scam artists associated with other religions as well. Why don't you try and look at the faults in your religion before pointing out whats wrong with someone elses? Damn you people can be stupid!



    I don't think you understand. Hubbard, the founder of the relgion, if you research him is a scam artist( convicted of fraud in the US- a fact, also of making up a degree and a false war record) and told the world that he started the relgion to get rich off writing science fiction. He was a know drug user. Also admits it was a "implied philopshy" instead of relgion, but uses the tax break to his advandge. A little bit different from your standard holy man.

    The worst part is the relgion pretends to be scientific, yet believe in random events where the psychology community plot to take over the world with the false pretence of chemical imbalances and that sex was made by the psychology community to trap us. You are also sadly mistaken about Christian Sciencists. Besides a few fundmentalists, most are very open to the use of medication and theropy. Hardly are they telling the world the mental ill that they can use rational thinking to overcome there ills and that medication and help are evil.

    http://www.scientology-lies.com/whatswrong.html

    http://www.scientology-kills.org/

    http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/

  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875

    http://www.petitiononline.com/Tomkat/

    To:  Steven Spielberg

    Dear Mr. Spielberg,

    We, the undersigned, wish to inform you that we are compelled to boycott your movie “War of the Worlds”. Our decision is based solely on the abhorrent behavior of Mr. Tom Cruise. We will not be spending our good money to support the ridiculous and potentially dangerous antics of this raving narcissist. Mr. Cruise’s actions and comments have been offensive and insulting when not downright laughable.

    -We do not want to hear Mr. Cruise’s uneducated and unsubstantiated opinions on medicine and Psychiatry. His mean-spirited decision to use Brooke Shields as an example was unforgivable. The potential impact on those in need of treatment, who might heed the advice of a ‘celebrity’ over a trained professional, is dangerous. If Mr. Cruise believes that vitamins can cure mental illness, then perhaps he should consider increasing his dosage.

    -We do not want to be enlightened about Mr. Cruise's ‘religion’ of Scientology. If he is so concerned about mind control, he should not be part of an organization that seems to use this tactic as its Modus Operandi. Mr. Spielberg, was the fully staffed Scientology tent you allowed Mr. Cruise to have on the movie set placed right next to the Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, and Muslim tents? Didn’t think so.

    -We are sick of being force-fed his relationship with Katie Holmes which, if it isn’t the publicity hoax it appears to be, is a pathetic, juvenile, attention mongering display. Tom’s obvious control of his Stepford-Wife-To-Be is frightening.

    -We do not want to watch his ‘out of control’ yet suspiciously manipulative antics nor listen to his condescending, holier-than-thou judgments. This man cannot even articulate a coherent sentence. He should stick to reading movie scripts.

    It is revealing that the most compelling character Tom Cruise has ever portrayed is “Frank TJ Mackay” from Magnolia, a control-freak with a pathological need to assert his obsession over not just those around him, but the public as well, by exploiting his access to public media. Apparently Mr. Cruise was playing himself.

    Perhaps he views the aliens he battles in War of the worlds as a metaphor for the aliens he and his Scientology friends believe inhabit we humans. Relax Tom, it’s just a movie. A movie we will not be paying to see.

    Sincerely,

    The Undersigned

  • gargantroogargantroo Member Posts: 1,477

    Yes, the Catholic Church has one of the most disgusting history records ever.
    Look at the Crusades. Look at all the scientists murdered for trying to find a root to our beginning without seeking a "god".
    Scientology may kill people, but I doubt they have near the same death toll the Catholic Church has.
    Hell, look at Muslim's record too. Muslim religion has alot of gore and fighting. In fact, to be honest, the Jewish religion is the only one that I can't think of having a history of blood to promote their religion.


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  • RazorbackRazorback Member Posts: 5,253

    Good point man...

    It would be nice to see a graph of the "religious body count" of the last 2000 years, that would probably put this in perspective.

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  • gargantroogargantroo Member Posts: 1,477


    Originally posted by DerfelCadarn
    the founder of the relgion, if you research him is a scam artist( convicted of fraud in the US- a fact, also of making up a degree and a false war record)
    We have our president doing that too ::::28::


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  • RazorbackRazorback Member Posts: 5,253
    Hey you dont think GWB is actually LRH ?image

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  • gargantroogargantroo Member Posts: 1,477


    Originally posted by Razorback
    Hey you dont think GWB is actually LRH ?image
    LHR?


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  • RazorbackRazorback Member Posts: 5,253

    L Ron Hubbard

    or maybe....

    L Ron Hoover....From the first church of Applientology.... (Frank Zappa - Joes Garage)

    He had an interesting take on Scientology... he satarised it and called it Applientology where the members were in love with appliances.

    Church Councilor : "your a latent appliance fetishist"

    Joe : "I am....? um whats that?"

    Church Councilor : "a latent appliance fetishist is someone who refuses to admit to him or herself that sexual gratification can only be achieved through the use of machines, get the picture?"

    Pretty much how Scientology works...... "youve got something wrong with you because we say you have and if you deny it your even sicker than you thought." for many weak minded people.... thats enough to suck them in. Clearly worked on Tommy boy.image

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  • fulmanfufulmanfu Member Posts: 1,523

    anyone interested in starting a religion with me pm me.
    i got time, can be a creative writer when putting my mind to it, and i like donations.
    not sure what to call it yet but i do know we will stand for/believe in practically nothing and we are accepting dontations for higher enlightenment.. any ideas/suggestions welcome, also have positions available for rooks(our religions version of bishops) and also need a co-pope.

  • gargantroogargantroo Member Posts: 1,477

    Ah, I figured he was the foudner of Scientology.

    By the way, is the church still around for the Appliantology or whatever? I love Frank Zappa and I flirt with my toaster constantly.

    Read the post above mine- OMGOOSES Let's start a religion seriously. My AIM name is handicappedrat. Let's discuss the great God Zorpis Reepler who promises eternal happiness if you give him $100 a month.


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  • RazorbackRazorback Member Posts: 5,253

    Friends and I toyed with the idea of starting a religion back in the days when we did too many magic mushrooms image

    We wanted to call it CAIRE "The Church of Artificially Induced Religious Experiences" so we could have an excuse to legally do lots of drugs image

    However we were all too stoned and disorganised to get it happening image

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  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875


    Originally posted by gargantroo
    Yes, the Catholic Church has one of the most disgusting history records ever.
    Look at the Crusades. Look at all the scientists murdered for trying to find a root to our beginning without seeking a "god".
    Scientology may kill people, but I doubt they have near the same death toll the Catholic Church has.
    Hell, look at Muslim's record too. Muslim religion has alot of gore and fighting. In fact, to be honest, the Jewish religion is the only one that I can't think of having a history of blood to promote their religion.

    How about your read the Old Testament for any longer then 5 mintues. The whole book is just the Jews slaughtering the people of palestine and commendments full of God telling the Jews to smite the unbelievers. Most of it is braging how much they made blood run down the streets of the pagens cities.

    Stop with the Crusader BS. The Crusades were judged harshly by semi-historians in the 19th century. Eviedence now suggests that the Crusades were one of the only things that saved europe against the Muslim aggression at the time. Read up, the crusades are started because of aggression of the Moors in Spain and the Turks fighting the Byzantines(Greeks). The Emperor of Byzantines asked the Pope for help for the simple reason that they were being overrun by islam. If the Crusades never happened, Constantinople might have well fell in the 12th century instead of the 15th century. Islam has always been a relgion of violence, as the founder, Mohammed was a great warlord. Jesus never advocated violence in any form. Later groups, whether it be the tradiation protestants groups (Never let anyone tell you that it was only the Catholics. Wonderful holy men of Henry's relgion killed millions of Scots and Irish) in europe or the Catholic Church advocated that in some points.

  • gargantroogargantroo Member Posts: 1,477


    Originally posted by DerfelCadarn
    Originally posted by gargantroo
    Yes, the Catholic Church has one of the most disgusting history records ever.
    Look at the Crusades. Look at all the scientists murdered for trying to find a root to our beginning without seeking a "god".
    Scientology may kill people, but I doubt they have near the same death toll the Catholic Church has.
    Hell, look at Muslim's record too. Muslim religion has alot of gore and fighting. In fact, to be honest, the Jewish religion is the only one that I can't think of having a history of blood to promote their religion.

    How about your read the Old Testament for any longer then 5 mintues. The whole book is just the Jews slaughtering the people of palestine and commendments full of God telling the Jews to smite the unbelievers. Most of it is braging how much they made blood run down the streets of the pagens cities.

    Stop with the Crusader BS. The Crusades were judged harshly by semi-historians in the 19th century. Eviedence now suggests that the Crusades were one of the only things that saved europe against the Muslim aggression at the time. Read up, the crusades are started because of aggression of the Moors in Spain and the Turks fighting the Byzantines(Greeks). The Emperor of Byzantines asked the Pope for help for the simple reason that they were being overrun by islam. If the Crusades never happened, Constantinople might have well fell in the 12th century instead of the 15th century. Islam has always been a relgion of violence, as the founder, Mohammed was a great warlord. Jesus never advocated violence in any form. Later groups, whether it be the tradiation protestants groups (Never let anyone tell you that it was only the Catholics. Wonderful holy men of Henry's relgion killed millions of Scots and Irish) in europe or the Catholic Church advocated that in some points.



    I'm not Catholic or Jewish, I wasnt trying to promote the Jewish religion. In fact, I felt like googling the Jewish religion just to say ALL religions have a bad reputation with gore.
    As for the Old Testament, once again, I'm not Jewish or Catholic. I doubt you've read any other holy books than the one belonging to your religion.
    And I knew that Jews were responsible for death, I couldn't think of a specific instance. The Old Testament is a pretty vague way of pointing things out, since the Crusades were pretty specific compared to that.

    And in conclusion, all you did with that sentence was further prove my point that Scientology spilling blood is NOTHING compared to what other major religions have done. I thank you for that! ::::28::


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