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  • vmopedvmoped Member Posts: 1,708

    As far as MMO's go I have been waiting around since RIFT beta.  None of the current mmo's have really tickled my fancy.  I personally enjoy playing mmo's within the first couple of months of launch when things are fresh and new.  Older games tend to get too top heavy and stale when every player has a collection of maxxed out toons.  I am honestly looking forward to SWTOR, GW2, and TSW since they each seem to have something relatively new.  For now its Baldur's Gate and Master of Magic to bide my time (till Skyrim that is).

    Cheers!

    MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Originally posted by Arebuxum

    I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, but I rarely find myself getting bored playing MMOs.  I know that I haven't been playing MMOs as long as some of you on this site, but I've built up my repetoire of games enough to where, if I get bored with one game, I simply switch to another.  Then, I found this site. I've found two games from this site that I've added to my list that I've found will most likely keep me busy for a while. 

    With that being said, I encourage you guys to check out Istaria or Xyson.  It seems like these days there is too much focus on graphics.  GRAPHICS DOES NOT MAKE A GAME GOOD.  What makes a game good is gameplay, uniqueness, and in-depthness, and we've made to believe that graphics is what makes a game great.

    What I hope is that that there will be a shift from games that hold your hand to games that make you search, but I'm not holding my breath..

        I really like graphics in a game they really make it look like art so that I can really get into it really if your some crappy looking naive would you really be like yeah thats me doing quests blah... I like to really immerse myself into the game. Everyone is different really i mean if gameplay alone can do it for you thats great but i want something that people... a lot of people put work into.

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Originally posted by vmoped

    As far as MMO's go I have been waiting around since RIFT beta.  None of the current mmo's have really tickled my fancy.  I personally enjoy playing mmo's within the first couple of months of launch when things are fresh and new.  Older games tend to get too top heavy and stale when every player has a collection of maxxed out toons.  I am honestly looking forward to SWTOR, GW2, and TSW since they each seem to have something relatively new.  For now its Baldur's Gate and Master of Magic to bide my time (till Skyrim that is).

    Cheers!

        This i can relate to something new something to grow with and experience new things with. The problem is people have almost a set chain they will start playing "OK right now its WoW, next i wil play skyrim, then i will play SWTOR GW2 archage, etc. etc." Sorry i may get bashed for this as i rightly should but I do not know enough about skyrim is it a console game correct? if so then the list is a lot more understandable.

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403

    Originally posted by Madimorga

    And it's not self-defeating to avoid toxic encounters with other humans, in a game or anywhere else.  Unless of course you think it's self-defeating to avoid misery, anger, and frustration, none of which are good for one's mental or physical health.

    What's toxic is the automatic assumption that the majority of encounters are with "toxic" people by default.

    If you lean to seeing all other players as children, malcontents, troublemakers, or "toxic" in general, the problem just might be yours.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • VidirVidir Member UncommonPosts: 963

    Originally posted by Shrilly

           I don't know about most of you but for me this is the place I go when my mmorpg experience is not sated. I come here when World of Warcraft bores me when im caught in the corner and don't know which way to go. I will log on and look for some reason to try a game a great game that will take my breath away.

           Which brings up another question will there ever be a game that you think will be the end all be all for you. A love at first site if you will I mean hell you may divorce at some point but there has got to be a reason your going back to this site. Me? I just keep going back to the fridge to see if there are any new snacks. And one day i hope to see that cheescake waiting for me on the other side.

            What I am getting at is are you looking for the same thing I am? Is there that perfect game? Right now GW2 would be amazing but we are talking about right now. Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

    I have got disapiontet by every game I played the last 10 years or so exept Vanguard.

    I had high hopes for WoW and eq2 but only played wow for 2 months then canceled, eq2 lasted a bit longer.

    I have given up the hope that any mmo released will fulfill my expectations and soon I will stop even bothering trying those games.

  • BlackUhuruBlackUhuru Member Posts: 770

    Originally posted by Shrilly

           I don't know about most of you but for me this is the place I go when my mmorpg experience is not sated. I come here when World of Warcraft bores me when im caught in the corner and don't know which way to go. I will log on and look for some reason to try a game a great game that will take my breath away.

           Which brings up another question will there ever be a game that you think will be the end all be all for you. A love at first site if you will I mean hell you may divorce at some point but there has got to be a reason your going back to this site. Me? I just keep going back to the fridge to see if there are any new snacks. And one day i hope to see that cheescake waiting for me on the other side.

            What I am getting at is are you looking for the same thing I am? Is there that perfect game? Right now GW2 would be amazing but we are talking about right now. Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

    You are correct my friend...When your into a game you are most likely not on this site.

    I'm here waiting and doing the same thing you are, after playing Rift recently and finally realizing it's just another shallow themepark game i came here like i have for many years looking for a new game.

    In the process i have finally come to the conclusion that i just don't have any interest in themepark games and am looking forward to the RESURRECTION of the true sandbox games.

    Not the Darkfalls or the MO's that label them selfs as sandbox but are nothing more then PvP themepark games.

    Once the themepark generation gets sick of the shallow, linear games they have been playing and demand a more indepth challenging experience, we will just have to wait.

    Waiting is what we are doing...

    Hopefully not for long...

    "It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Originally posted by BlackUhuru

    Originally posted by Shrilly

           I don't know about most of you but for me this is the place I go when my mmorpg experience is not sated. I come here when World of Warcraft bores me when im caught in the corner and don't know which way to go. I will log on and look for some reason to try a game a great game that will take my breath away.

           Which brings up another question will there ever be a game that you think will be the end all be all for you. A love at first site if you will I mean hell you may divorce at some point but there has got to be a reason your going back to this site. Me? I just keep going back to the fridge to see if there are any new snacks. And one day i hope to see that cheescake waiting for me on the other side.

            What I am getting at is are you looking for the same thing I am? Is there that perfect game? Right now GW2 would be amazing but we are talking about right now. Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

    You are correct my friend...When your into a game you are most likely not on this site.

    I'm here waiting and doing the same thing you are, after playing Rift recently and finally realizing it's just another shallow themepark game i came here like i have for many years looking for a new game.

    In the process i have finally come to the conclusion that i just don't have any interest in themepark games and am looking forward to the RESURRECTION of the true sandbox games.

    Not the Darkfalls or the MO's that label them selfs as sandbox but are nothing more then PvP themepark games.

    Once the themepark generation gets sick of the shallow, linear games they have been playing and demand a more indepth challenging experience, we will just have to wait.

    Waiting is what we are doing...

    Hopefully not for long...

           Very well said i think the themepark is overplayed, I will not keep doing the same thing that is set in stone for me. There has got to be a great sandbox or some other style! Lolimage

  • DLangleyDLangley Member Posts: 1,407

    Alright, I've gone through and cleaned this thread of some rule-breakers. Let's keepe everything within the bounds of the ROC guys. Thanks!

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Originally posted by DLangley

    Alright, I've gone through and cleaned this thread of some rule-breakers. Let's keepe everything within the bounds of the ROC guys. Thanks!

    Totally as fun as the ranting was I would have liked to stay to the topic really but it was too good to pass up the laughing while i was going. I never really see any admins on here i must be lucky and unlucky you took some of the posts out! image

  • MadimorgaMadimorga Member UncommonPosts: 1,920

    Originally posted by Icewhite

    Originally posted by Madimorga

    And it's not self-defeating to avoid toxic encounters with other humans, in a game or anywhere else.  Unless of course you think it's self-defeating to avoid misery, anger, and frustration, none of which are good for one's mental or physical health.

    What's toxic is the automatic assumption that the majority of encounters are with "toxic" people by default.

    If you lean to seeing all other players as children, malcontents, troublemakers, or "toxic" in general, the problem just might be yours.

     

    You assume I'm making assumptions rather than basing my people-avoidance policies on the nature of whatever game world I happen to be inhabiting.

     

    And also, you still don't address my second point:  If leveling is mindlessly painful solo, why would I waste time doing the same mindless, painful grind with other players when I could just get my social kicks in a chatroom and save some money?  MMOs cannot and should not continue to churn out the same tired formulas, then expect players to provide the entertainment for each other.

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    I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

    ~Albert Einstein

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Originally posted by Madimorga

    Originally posted by Icewhite

    Originally posted by Madimorga

    And it's not self-defeating to avoid toxic encounters with other humans, in a game or anywhere else.  Unless of course you think it's self-defeating to avoid misery, anger, and frustration, none of which are good for one's mental or physical health.

    What's toxic is the automatic assumption that the majority of encounters are with "toxic" people by default.

    If you lean to seeing all other players as children, malcontents, troublemakers, or "toxic" in general, the problem just might be yours.

     

    You assume I'm making assumptions rather than basing my people-avoidance policies on the nature of whatever game world I happen to be inhabiting.

     

    And also, you still don't address my second point:  If leveling is mindlessly painful solo, why would I waste time doing the same mindless, painful grind with other players when I could just get my social kicks in a chatroom and save some money?  MMOs cannot and should not continue to churn out the same tired formulas, then expect players to provide the entertainment for each other.

    image Valid point sir valid point.

  • Shawn964Shawn964 Member UncommonPosts: 28

    Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

     

    I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

     

    What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

     

    What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

    Id say try dragon nest :)

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Originally posted by Shawn964

    Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

     

    I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

     

    What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

     

    What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

    Id say try dragon nest :)

    OK this may be because its just a video but dragon nest looks AWSOME why did no one hit on this mmo yet????

  • PioneerStewPioneerStew Member Posts: 874

    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Originally posted by Shawn964


    Originally posted by ActionMMORPG


    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

     

    I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

     

    What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

     

    What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

    Id say try dragon nest :)

    OK this may be because its just a video but dragon nest looks AWSOME why did no one hit on this mmo yet????

    Because the swift, instanced dungeons are not really conducive to a good community and you will acheive cap in a couple of days and then get a bit bored jumping around dungeons.  Is fun for a brief while though.  If you want to stand in a lobby and wait for instances to pop I would be more inclined to play World of Tanks (to Action MMORPG: it is pvp, but old and slow pvp). 

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Originally posted by PioneerStew

    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Originally posted by Shawn964

    Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

     

    I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

     

    What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

     

    What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

    Id say try dragon nest :)

    OK this may be because its just a video but dragon nest looks AWSOME why did no one hit on this mmo yet????

    Because the swift, instanced dungeons are not really conducive to a good community and you will acheive cap in a couple of days and then get a bit bored jumping around dungeons.  Is fun for a brief while though.  If you want to stand in a lobby and wait for instances to pop I would be more inclined to play World of Tanks (to Action MMORPG: it is pvp, but old and slow pvp). 

    Well i love that you have to aim and you shoot and all i saw the ripperx version of the video he seems to REALLY enjoy it well i guess i founf my filler for a long time apparently they updated it for a 32ish cap? seems tyo be updated nicely and i LOVE the gameplay feature of it that you have to aim and all pvp would be amazing like this and to dodge on your own etc this is a REAL game

  • PioneerStewPioneerStew Member Posts: 874

    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Originally posted by PioneerStew


    Originally posted by Shrilly


    Originally posted by Shawn964


    Originally posted by ActionMMORPG


    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

     

    I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

     

    What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

     

    What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

    Id say try dragon nest :)

    OK this may be because its just a video but dragon nest looks AWSOME why did no one hit on this mmo yet????

    Because the swift, instanced dungeons are not really conducive to a good community and you will acheive cap in a couple of days and then get a bit bored jumping around dungeons.  Is fun for a brief while though.  If you want to stand in a lobby and wait for instances to pop I would be more inclined to play World of Tanks (to Action MMORPG: it is pvp, but old and slow pvp). 

    Well i love that you have to aim and you shoot and all i saw the ripperx version of the video he seems to REALLY enjoy it well i guess i founf my filler for a long time apparently they updated it for a 32ish cap? seems tyo be updated nicely and i LOVE the gameplay feature of it that you have to aim and all pvp would be amazing like this and to dodge on your own etc this is a REAL game

    Regarding pvp in Dragonage, unless things have changed melee is far better than ranged since they can close the gap or dodge very quickly while you wait for your skills to charge.  Having a 2 second delay on your best dps moves means that time and time again they have disappeared over the horizon or are twatting you about the head with a big stick before you have loosed a single arrow or spell.  It gets very frustrating very quickly.  

  • MurahMurah Member UncommonPosts: 41

    I'm so tired of waiting around... I just resurrected my DAoC account .

     

    srsly

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421
    Dragon nest not dragonage look up ripperx 's video its amazing
  • z80paranoiaz80paranoia Member Posts: 410

    while waiting around for gw2 ive been enjoying 2011 because even though mmos have sucked these last few years 2011 has been the best year in recent history for non-mmos and every month this year a good single player game has been released

    Guild Wars 2 is my religion

  • PioneerStewPioneerStew Member Posts: 874

    Originally posted by Shrilly

    Dragon nest not dragonage look up ripperx 's video its amazing

    Sorry, meant Dragonnest: got Bioware on the mind at the moment as I await my next MMO.

  • Joseph_KerrJoseph_Kerr Member RarePosts: 1,113

    Originally posted by kedoremos

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    You guys do know that there is a whole world out there with experiences that completely surpass video game right?

    You have over 10,000 posts.

     

     

    ...

     

     

    Ten thousand.

    Haha, thats exactly what I said in my head when I read that. Anyways, yea Im waiting for GW2, Wildstar, Firefall and ArcheAge. Also, have you guys looked at Otherland? That looks like its on a whole nother plane of logic. It reminds me of the virtual worlds I and im sure a lot of you thought of growing up as children.

  • ShrillyShrilly Member UncommonPosts: 421

    Originally posted by punchrx

    Originally posted by kedoremos

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    You guys do know that there is a whole world out there with experiences that completely surpass video game right?

    You have over 10,000 posts.

     

     

    ...

     

     

    Ten thousand.

    Haha, thats exactly what I said in my head when I read that. Anyways, yea Im waiting for GW2, Wildstar, Firefall and ArcheAge. Also, have you guys looked at Otherland? That looks like its on a whole nother plane of logic. It reminds me of the virtual worlds I and im sure a lot of you thought of growing up as children.

    Otherlands is alright i looked at the trailer wasn't a lot of detail if you would like to explain it better. My child growing up fantasy was Final Fantasy with cloud and maybe FF Versus. Otherland looks interesting enough tho looks like a SIM rather than a mmo game tho.

  • UnsungTooUnsungToo Member Posts: 276

    Yeah, there is a game and are games I want to play but they haven't made it/them yet.

    If it ain't one danged thing that'll ruin a game, there's another. My last favorite game got the axe because of a hardware change. I suspect I may never see anything of it's likeness again.

    I come here to keep up with what's going on in the gaming world, but  I spend most of my time looking into fishing.

    Godspeed my fellow gamer

  • joanne71joanne71 Member Posts: 63

    I went Ultima Online, Everquest, Asherons Call, Aion, Rift (I skipped Wow, busier years).

    Now I'm bored so I'm helping with a community MMO

    http://www.dragonadventures.org

    and just waiting for the Old Republic to come out... I just hope they dont mess up end game PvP because its the only thing that can prolong a game...

     

  • soulmirrorsoulmirror Member UncommonPosts: 124

    and that is why finding a fulfilling MMO will be hard to find.....

       " A vast majority of gamers want the "end game" " or so corporate america has been led to believe that.  Gone are the days when an indy developer makes a game in their garage and shock the world.  Gone are the days where it takes days / weeks to gain 1 level your character, most of today's gamers want that instant gratification or rush from fast leveling / PvP / and getting to the end game.  To me, the advent of 2nd generation  MMO's did a few things to the gaming community, things that can not be undone.  

    1.  Made MMO's available to the casual gamer, taking the content and difficulty with it.

    2.  Virtually sucked the life out of different types of game development, besides MMO's.

    3.  The popularity with console games adds to the instant  gratification mantra.

    4.  Through repeated trashing, jokes and villification, the pick up group is dead.

    5.  And by extension, companies and websites posting game information to solve quests, suggest build and so on, the day the game is released.

      I too would like to see a game with depth, backstory, learning curve and where grouping is the norm, not the exception.  But that would take changing the paradigm of modern game development.

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