I'm ashamed that your so ashamed to call yourself a gamer because of what other people do. Who cares if other gamers act immature, maybe it's their way of having fun. Does it make you more mature because your so ashamed of these types of gamers? Not every gamer acts this way but more power to them if they do. Imo it's a breathe of fresh air from the boring and normal "rabel rabel" small talk exchanged between strangers in every day life. Granted some people may take it too far, but just ignore them or if your really that passionate about it, tell them how you feel.
I can't believe you would let these people get to you to the point where you've become ashamed to call yourself a gamer though. No matter the image society may project on gaming, negative or positive, I'll stand by what I am and what I'm passionate in. I think you should too.
Most people go through life pretending to be a boss. I go through life pretending I'm not.
I'm ashamed that your so ashamed to call yourself a gamer because of what other people do. Who cares if other gamers act immature, maybe it's their way of having fun. Does it make you more mature because your so ashamed of these types of gamers? Not every gamer acts this way but more power to them if they do. Imo it's a breathe of fresh air from the boring and normal "rabel rabel" small talk exchanged between strangers in every day life. Granted some people may take it too far, but just ignore them or if your really that passionate about it, tell them how you feel.
I can't believe you would let these people get to you to the point where you've become ashamed to call yourself a gamer though. No matter the image society may project on gaming, negative or positive, I'll stand by what I am and what I'm passionate in. I think you should too.
Well, I guess that proves the point doesn't it?
Sorry, it's not a breath of fresh air and acting like an idiot is not anything to be proud of.
There is a group of "gamers' who act deplorably and are essentially polluting the label of "gamer".
As a point of note, I don't particularly 'care" if other gamers act immature. Yyou know, to each his/her own. if you want to act like an idiot and not bring others into your vortex of shame then more power to ya. But it sure as hell doesn't make me want to be lumped into the same category.
There is a difference between accepting what others do and being associated with them because of a common interest. As that "Extra Credits" short intimates the genre needs to be cleaned up.
Maybe better parenting (or any parenting?) would be a start.
edit: Would you like to know what doesn't make one boring? It's doing things that are extraordinary and not the norm but that are fascniating and intriguing and something you can be proud of. It's Getting a Ph.D. in the Classics, trekking around the world and recording dying languages, giving your time to under priviledged children, Giving out food to the homeless on Thanksgiving, volunteering to work the polls on election day, learning how to Glass Blow, sculpting in bronze, running a triathalon and any number of activities that take skill and knowledge and drive.
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For everyone who posts, screams, rants, /YELL(s) idiocies in games, forums etc there are 500 who don't. /ignore and move on. I see (if the OP's profile is right) that you are young female (though 21 seems to be a bit Young to have built 486s or whatever you mentioned building). People are a fact of life. Idiots tend to be more noticeable than the 'nice people', regretfully. Expect it, accept it and move on. Railing at the foolishness of others RARELY makes more difference than spitting into the ocean (okay maybe a lake...a big one).
Have fun with the few you know and trust and eventually more will flock to your nucleus group. If you build it, they will come.....etc.
I have nothing else to say but to agree with you all. Some people just don't realize this but most often, people tend to become more rude in-game than most monsters they are murdering. It's sad.
I'm sorry but I don't think the person who wrote this has taken a second to look at the bigger picture. The stuff the writer is describing isn't something that's unique to "gamers", it's a symptom of our entire society. Look at reality TV, look at the way people treat eachother on the street, look at what makes the nightly news.
People are simply becoming more and more douche-y. The only reason you see it as much as you do on the internet is because people take the opportunity to say stuff that their anonymity will let them get away with. I refer you to John Gabriel's Internet Dickwad Theory. If you go onto any forum you'll find people being jerks to eachother, whether it's a forum for Miley Cyrus or Bodybuilding or Knitting. This is the Internet, a darker reflection of our society's worst sides laid bare. It's the writing on the bathroom stall of life.
Also, I find it a little ironic that following the link in the OP shows that the writer is currently banned on those forums for apparently flaming someone in another thread.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
I'm ashamed that your so ashamed to call yourself a gamer because of what other people do. Who cares if other gamers act immature, maybe it's their way of having fun. Does it make you more mature because your so ashamed of these types of gamers? Not every gamer acts this way but more power to them if they do. Imo it's a breathe of fresh air from the boring and normal "rabel rabel" small talk exchanged between strangers in every day life. Granted some people may take it too far, but just ignore them or if your really that passionate about it, tell them how you feel.
I can't believe you would let these people get to you to the point where you've become ashamed to call yourself a gamer though. No matter the image society may project on gaming, negative or positive, I'll stand by what I am and what I'm passionate in. I think you should too.
Well, I guess that proves the point doesn't it?
Sorry, it's not a breath of fresh air and acting like an idiot is not anything to be proud of.
There is a group of "gamers' who act deplorably and are essentially polluting the label of "gamer".
As a point of note, I don't particularly 'care" if other gamers act immature. Yyou know, to each his/her own. if you want to act like an idiot and not bring others into your vortex of shame then more power to ya. But it sure as hell doesn't make me want to be lumped into the same category.
There is a difference between accepting what others do and being associated with them because of a common interest. As that "Extra Credits" short intimates the genre needs to be cleaned up.
Maybe better parenting (or any parenting?) would be a start.
edit: Would you like to know what doesn't make one boring? It's doing things that are extraordinary and not the norm but that are fascniating and intriguing and something you can be proud of. It's Getting a Ph.D. in the Classics, trekking around the world and recording dying languages, giving your time to under priviledged children, Giving out food to the homeless on Thanksgiving, volunteering to work the polls on election day, learning how to Glass Blow, sculpting in bronze, running a triathalon and any number of activities that take skill and knowledge and drive.
Some people find humor in such things. Immature insults and comments tossed around in a joking manor is just plain funny sometimes. It lightens the situation. It breaks the ice. It brings comfort knowing that anything can be said and it'llbe taken lightly. Not everything has to be so serious all the time. I can't stand grouping with people that rarely talk and when they do it's about the most boring things, that I could honeslty care less about. I'd rather group with the "immature idiots" enjoying the hell out of themselves then the "mature" ones with such a stuck up attitude.
"Maybe better parenting (or any parenting?)" thats offly judgemental and I can find that alot more offensive than any immature insult thrown my way. Just saying.
And as for your "edit" post. It's a video game, lighten up a little. This is the problem. People are takeing it WAY too seriously. Make light of the situation. I'm sorry that not everybody wants to follow in the footsteps of Gandhi. Especially not online.
Please don't get me wrong I do understand the people who take it way too far and become more trolls/douches than anything else. Yea I don't like these people but why point it out when it's obvious that nobody else does either. Enjoy yourself. Lighten up a bit. Nothing is or should be taboo, thats whats great about online gaming.
Most people go through life pretending to be a boss. I go through life pretending I'm not.
Some people find humor in such things. Immature insults and comments tossed around in a joking manor is just plain funny sometimes. It lightens the situation. It breaks the ice. It brings comfort knowing that anything can be said and it'llbe taken lightly. Not everything has to be so serious all the time. I can't stand grouping with people that rarely talk and when they do it's about the most boring things, that I could honeslty care less about. I'd rather group with the "immature idiots" enjoying the hell out of themselves then the "mature" ones with such a stuck up attitude.
"Maybe better parenting (or any parenting?)" thats offly judgemental and I can find that alot more offensive than any immature insult thrown my way. Just saying.
And as for your "edit" post. It's a video game, lighten up a little. This is the problem. People are takeing it WAY too seriously. Make light of the situation. I'm sorry that not everybody wants to follow in the footsteps of Gandhi. Especially not online.
Please don't get me wrong I do understand the people who take it way too far and become more trolls/douches than anything else. Yea I don't like these people but why point it out when it's obvious that nobody else does either. Enjoy yourself. Lighten up a bit. Nothing is or should be taboo, thats whats great about online gaming.
My thought is that there is a time and place. I can "lighten up" when I'm out with my buddies at the pub every Thurday night. Or joking with friends at a restaurant, on the phone, in a long car ride. As an fyi, I have probably one of the darkest senses of humor that I know.
But I also know about "time and place".
Heck, when I was younger and making money for college I worked a construction site and developed an extremely foul mouth with as many foul remarks flying from it as often as I took breath. I mean, really bad. Until one day I actually took notice of what I was saying and I sounded like a moron. Not an educated individual about to go to college and embark on a career. I sounded like a kid who didn't know when to stop.
I have no problem with people finding humor in things that are crude or dark or beyond the pale. But there is a difference between reveling in a dark or crude joke among friends and acting the fool with people you don't know.
At some point one has to be an adult. It just has to happen. And that point is when one realizes that not everyone needs to have their very own special brand of humor inflicted on others. It is essentially ok to consider that what I find funny might not be funny to someone else and since I'm not the center of the universe I'll be respectful until I know them.
But that's just me.
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Maybe it is simply human nature and genetics that cause us to hate each other for no good reason. I mean, why would anyone hate and harm another of their own species based on the colour of their skin? I can think of no good reason, except some twisted evolution of the hunter/gatherer species.
Why is his behaviour so prevalent in the gaming community (and probably no other)?
Because in real life, we generally do not go around being openly abusive to other people in the street, because of consequences. Go up to someone in a bar and describe how you intend to do something to his mother involving intercourse and eye sockets, and see what happens.
But the internet is free of consequence. I can call you a string of expletives, or rearrange your sexuality for my own amusement, and the worst thing that will happen is I will get banned from this forum, and perhaps my IP forwarded to relevant authorities.
Apart from that, except for giving you my address, there's not a damn thing that will happen to me. So I am proverbially free to do as I please.
Perhaps, for those of us that grew up before the internet age, we understand consequences better. In the school yard, if we called someone a bad name, we either received a punch on the nose, or some form of punishment. These days we have kids sending round gang-rapes to friends via cell phones.
The sad thing is, I don't really see how this situation will improve. It is up to us to take responsibility for our own actions, and simply learn to behave better. Because let's face it, screaming about a game's lack of features pales in comparison to having your home washed away by a tsunami, right?
I agree with the OP. That's why I am extremely reluctant to play online games and communicate with other people ingame. I just talk to my friends.
Gamers are just extremely rude and bad mannered....
Originally posted by Scambug
Beyond gaming, I think this phenomenon has more to do with the internet becoming accessible to everyone.
The internet is a bit like alcohol in that it reveals peoples' true nature. In the comfort of total anonymity, all moral and social codes vanish and people start acting like the savage beasts they really are without fear of any consequences.
This doesn't bode well for the future of humanity as the younger generations start their virtual life thinking this foul behavior is the norm.
True.
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Some people find humor in such things. Immature insults and comments tossed around in a joking manor is just plain funny sometimes. It lightens the situation. It breaks the ice. It brings comfort knowing that anything can be said and it'llbe taken lightly. Not everything has to be so serious all the time. I can't stand grouping with people that rarely talk and when they do it's about the most boring things, that I could honeslty care less about. I'd rather group with the "immature idiots" enjoying the hell out of themselves then the "mature" ones with such a stuck up attitude.
"Maybe better parenting (or any parenting?)" thats offly judgemental and I can find that alot more offensive than any immature insult thrown my way. Just saying.
And as for your "edit" post. It's a video game, lighten up a little. This is the problem. People are takeing it WAY too seriously. Make light of the situation. I'm sorry that not everybody wants to follow in the footsteps of Gandhi. Especially not online.
Please don't get me wrong I do understand the people who take it way too far and become more trolls/douches than anything else. Yea I don't like these people but why point it out when it's obvious that nobody else does either. Enjoy yourself. Lighten up a bit. Nothing is or should be taboo, thats whats great about online gaming.
My thought is that there is a time and place. I can "lighten up" when I'm out with my buddies at the pub every Thurday night. Or joking with friends at a restaurant, on the phone, in a long car ride. As an fyi, I have probably one of the darkest senses of humor that I know.
But I also know about "time and place".
Heck, when I was younger and making money for college I worked a construction site and developed an extremely foul mouth with as many foul remarks flying from it as often as I took breath. I mean, really bad. Until one day I actually took notice of what I was saying and I sounded like a moron. Not an educated individual about to go to college and embark on a career. I sounded like a kid who didn't know when to stop.
I have no problem with people finding humor in things that are crude or dark or beyond the pale. But there is a difference between reveling in a dark or crude joke among friends and acting the fool with people you don't know.
At some point one has to be an adult. It just has to happen. And that point is when one realizes that not everyone needs to have their very own special brand of humor inflicted on others. It is essentially ok to consider that what I find funny might not be funny to someone else and since I'm not the center of the universe I'll be respectful until I know them.
But that's just me.
Fair enough. I just don't see any better time or place then in online gaming xD thats my thing. But I agree once people become disrespectful it's crossing the line.
Most people go through life pretending to be a boss. I go through life pretending I'm not.
Fair enough. I just don't see any better time or place then in online gaming xD thats my thing. But I agree once people become disrespectful it's crossing the line.
cool, then we are in agreement.
I'm mostly about being respectful to people and being aware of where I am and who I am addressing.
For instance, I wouldn't be quoting south park lines in front of someone's grandmother (well, grandmothers are a bit different NOW then when I was a kid let me tell you) or going into the house of someone who is deeply religious and spouting my agnostic beliefs.
same with gaming, If I'm in a clan/guild that is family friendl and there are young kids on then I will be mindful of my "language". One could say that most kids will figure it out anyways but I think that's up to the parents. As a matter of fact the LOTRO guild I belong to will at times have really young children on (it's that type of a guild) and it's sort of a breath of fresh air to hear some little voice over the earphones get excited at "the monsters".
Since it is a family friendly guild the guild is very respectful of that type of thing and there isn't the "cutting up" and "letting loose" that some other guilds might have.
Again, it's about time and place for me. conversely if I join a group that is made up of a certain guild that is known for being as bawdy as they can be, I'm not going to stand on ceremony and start telling people they need to clean up their act.
If I find that they start getting racist or really being disrespectful to those around them I will leave the group. But if they are just "frat like" within the confines of the group chat then I fully expect that this is the timbre of the group and will just put up with it for the duration of what we are doing.
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I'm ashamed that your so ashamed to call yourself a gamer because of what other people do. Who cares if other gamers act immature, maybe it's their way of having fun. Does it make you more mature because your so ashamed of these types of gamers? Not every gamer acts this way but more power to them if they do. Imo it's a breathe of fresh air from the boring and normal "rabel rabel" small talk exchanged between strangers in every day life. Granted some people may take it too far, but just ignore them or if your really that passionate about it, tell them how you feel.
I can't believe you would let these people get to you to the point where you've become ashamed to call yourself a gamer though. No matter the image society may project on gaming, negative or positive, I'll stand by what I am and what I'm passionate in. I think you should too.
Most people go through life pretending to be a boss. I go through life pretending I'm not.
Well, I guess that proves the point doesn't it?
Sorry, it's not a breath of fresh air and acting like an idiot is not anything to be proud of.
There is a group of "gamers' who act deplorably and are essentially polluting the label of "gamer".
As a point of note, I don't particularly 'care" if other gamers act immature. Yyou know, to each his/her own. if you want to act like an idiot and not bring others into your vortex of shame then more power to ya. But it sure as hell doesn't make me want to be lumped into the same category.
There is a difference between accepting what others do and being associated with them because of a common interest. As that "Extra Credits" short intimates the genre needs to be cleaned up.
Maybe better parenting (or any parenting?) would be a start.
edit: Would you like to know what doesn't make one boring? It's doing things that are extraordinary and not the norm but that are fascniating and intriguing and something you can be proud of. It's Getting a Ph.D. in the Classics, trekking around the world and recording dying languages, giving your time to under priviledged children, Giving out food to the homeless on Thanksgiving, volunteering to work the polls on election day, learning how to Glass Blow, sculpting in bronze, running a triathalon and any number of activities that take skill and knowledge and drive.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
For everyone who posts, screams, rants, /YELL(s) idiocies in games, forums etc there are 500 who don't. /ignore and move on. I see (if the OP's profile is right) that you are young female (though 21 seems to be a bit Young to have built 486s or whatever you mentioned building). People are a fact of life. Idiots tend to be more noticeable than the 'nice people', regretfully. Expect it, accept it and move on. Railing at the foolishness of others RARELY makes more difference than spitting into the ocean (okay maybe a lake...a big one).
Have fun with the few you know and trust and eventually more will flock to your nucleus group. If you build it, they will come.....etc.
I have nothing else to say but to agree with you all. Some people just don't realize this but most often, people tend to become more rude in-game than most monsters they are murdering. It's sad.
I'm sorry but I don't think the person who wrote this has taken a second to look at the bigger picture. The stuff the writer is describing isn't something that's unique to "gamers", it's a symptom of our entire society. Look at reality TV, look at the way people treat eachother on the street, look at what makes the nightly news.
People are simply becoming more and more douche-y. The only reason you see it as much as you do on the internet is because people take the opportunity to say stuff that their anonymity will let them get away with. I refer you to John Gabriel's Internet Dickwad Theory. If you go onto any forum you'll find people being jerks to eachother, whether it's a forum for Miley Cyrus or Bodybuilding or Knitting. This is the Internet, a darker reflection of our society's worst sides laid bare. It's the writing on the bathroom stall of life.
Also, I find it a little ironic that following the link in the OP shows that the writer is currently banned on those forums for apparently flaming someone in another thread.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Some people find humor in such things. Immature insults and comments tossed around in a joking manor is just plain funny sometimes. It lightens the situation. It breaks the ice. It brings comfort knowing that anything can be said and it'llbe taken lightly. Not everything has to be so serious all the time. I can't stand grouping with people that rarely talk and when they do it's about the most boring things, that I could honeslty care less about. I'd rather group with the "immature idiots" enjoying the hell out of themselves then the "mature" ones with such a stuck up attitude.
"Maybe better parenting (or any parenting?)" thats offly judgemental and I can find that alot more offensive than any immature insult thrown my way. Just saying.
And as for your "edit" post. It's a video game, lighten up a little. This is the problem. People are takeing it WAY too seriously. Make light of the situation. I'm sorry that not everybody wants to follow in the footsteps of Gandhi. Especially not online.
Please don't get me wrong I do understand the people who take it way too far and become more trolls/douches than anything else. Yea I don't like these people but why point it out when it's obvious that nobody else does either. Enjoy yourself. Lighten up a bit. Nothing is or should be taboo, thats whats great about online gaming.
Most people go through life pretending to be a boss. I go through life pretending I'm not.
My thought is that there is a time and place. I can "lighten up" when I'm out with my buddies at the pub every Thurday night. Or joking with friends at a restaurant, on the phone, in a long car ride. As an fyi, I have probably one of the darkest senses of humor that I know.
But I also know about "time and place".
Heck, when I was younger and making money for college I worked a construction site and developed an extremely foul mouth with as many foul remarks flying from it as often as I took breath. I mean, really bad. Until one day I actually took notice of what I was saying and I sounded like a moron. Not an educated individual about to go to college and embark on a career. I sounded like a kid who didn't know when to stop.
I have no problem with people finding humor in things that are crude or dark or beyond the pale. But there is a difference between reveling in a dark or crude joke among friends and acting the fool with people you don't know.
At some point one has to be an adult. It just has to happen. And that point is when one realizes that not everyone needs to have their very own special brand of humor inflicted on others. It is essentially ok to consider that what I find funny might not be funny to someone else and since I'm not the center of the universe I'll be respectful until I know them.
But that's just me.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Maybe it is simply human nature and genetics that cause us to hate each other for no good reason. I mean, why would anyone hate and harm another of their own species based on the colour of their skin? I can think of no good reason, except some twisted evolution of the hunter/gatherer species.
Why is his behaviour so prevalent in the gaming community (and probably no other)?
Because in real life, we generally do not go around being openly abusive to other people in the street, because of consequences. Go up to someone in a bar and describe how you intend to do something to his mother involving intercourse and eye sockets, and see what happens.
But the internet is free of consequence. I can call you a string of expletives, or rearrange your sexuality for my own amusement, and the worst thing that will happen is I will get banned from this forum, and perhaps my IP forwarded to relevant authorities.
Apart from that, except for giving you my address, there's not a damn thing that will happen to me. So I am proverbially free to do as I please.
Perhaps, for those of us that grew up before the internet age, we understand consequences better. In the school yard, if we called someone a bad name, we either received a punch on the nose, or some form of punishment. These days we have kids sending round gang-rapes to friends via cell phones.
The sad thing is, I don't really see how this situation will improve. It is up to us to take responsibility for our own actions, and simply learn to behave better. Because let's face it, screaming about a game's lack of features pales in comparison to having your home washed away by a tsunami, right?
OP is right......but most people dont realy care anymore about others.
its not just gamers these days.
I agree with the OP. That's why I am extremely reluctant to play online games and communicate with other people ingame. I just talk to my friends.
Gamers are just extremely rude and bad mannered....
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
PVE forums are that way ---->
Seriously, it has nothing to do with gamers in general and is more due to the general anonymity that the Internet provides.
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Gamers on the internet? Hm. Ashamed, you say? Hm.
I'll just leave this here.
Fair enough. I just don't see any better time or place then in online gaming xD thats my thing. But I agree once people become disrespectful it's crossing the line.
Most people go through life pretending to be a boss. I go through life pretending I'm not.
cool, then we are in agreement.
I'm mostly about being respectful to people and being aware of where I am and who I am addressing.
For instance, I wouldn't be quoting south park lines in front of someone's grandmother (well, grandmothers are a bit different NOW then when I was a kid let me tell you) or going into the house of someone who is deeply religious and spouting my agnostic beliefs.
same with gaming, If I'm in a clan/guild that is family friendl and there are young kids on then I will be mindful of my "language". One could say that most kids will figure it out anyways but I think that's up to the parents. As a matter of fact the LOTRO guild I belong to will at times have really young children on (it's that type of a guild) and it's sort of a breath of fresh air to hear some little voice over the earphones get excited at "the monsters".
Since it is a family friendly guild the guild is very respectful of that type of thing and there isn't the "cutting up" and "letting loose" that some other guilds might have.
Again, it's about time and place for me. conversely if I join a group that is made up of a certain guild that is known for being as bawdy as they can be, I'm not going to stand on ceremony and start telling people they need to clean up their act.
If I find that they start getting racist or really being disrespectful to those around them I will leave the group. But if they are just "frat like" within the confines of the group chat then I fully expect that this is the timbre of the group and will just put up with it for the duration of what we are doing.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo