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Hey Quizzical, what are your thoughts on this build

pirateshakepirateshake Member Posts: 43

Im looking to build my friend a cheepish gaming/mmo computer for around or under 850 with tax hopefully. The less the better as hes incredibly cheep. Just looking for your adivce on if this is good stuff. I know how to build them and set them up, ive just fallen out of touch with whats decent now that im gaming more than i am keeping up with tech. Any input would be great or other ideas on a build. I just need the hardware for the rig, got the software and keyboard mouse covered. Thanks : D


  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,281

    The case should work fine.  Unless you really like the looks of it, I'd try this instead:

    Nicer case, same price before rebate, and then a $20 rebate on top of that.  Note that the promo code ends today, though.


    For a hard drive, it largely depends on how much capacity you need.  A Western Digital Caviar Black is faster than most hard drives, but hard drives are an intrinsically slow technology.  Most people don't need anywhere near 1.5 TB, but if your friend does, that's fine.


    The power supply is massively overkill for the system you're looking at.  You'll likely end up with a system that never pulls 300 W from the power supply.  You could save $56 by chopping 100 W off of the wattage.

    Or if you like rebates, you could get this for cheaper yet:


    I realize that you probably picked that memory for the combo deal, but without the combo deal, it doesn't really make sense.  This is cheaper:

    Or there are some other choices for the same price if you prefer Crucial or Patriot to G.Skill.


    The big decision that you have to make is the processor.  Here, there are a few different ways that you could go.  The six core Thuban processor that you picked is great if you run programs that will push six cores.  Games don't, however, and Stars cores are rather dated by now.  Six of them can't make up for that in programs that only use a few of the cores.

    One is to stretch the budget a bit to fit a Sandy Bridge system.  For example:

    Sandy Bridge is currently the best gaming processor architecture on the market, and for gaming purposes, will be much better than what you picked.  That motherboard will work, but it's relatively low end as P67 motherboards go.

    Another option is to go with four cores instead of six.

    That saves a good bit of money, and is actually a better motherboard than the one you picked.  Note that a Phenom II X4 Black Edition comes with a decent processor cooler, so I'd just stick with the stock cooler rather than buying a different one.

    A third option is to wait.  Llano is launching in about a few weeks, and that will basically be a die shrink of the Phenom II.  I don't expect big performance improvements, but it will probably be better and might be cheaper.  The point of Llano is more the integrated graphics, which makes it more appropriate for low end gaming systems.  If your friend had a $500 budget, I'd say to wait for Llano.

    Bulldozer is coming in about two months, and will be AMD's answer to Intel's Sandy Bridge.  I don't think it will be a better processor for gaming than Sandy Bridge, but a Bulldozer quad core will likely be substantially cheaper than Sandy Bridge, especially once you add in motherboard costs.  If your friend needs a new computer today, then don't wait for Bulldozer, but if you weren't going to get around to building it for a couple of months, then you might want to see what Bulldozer offers.

    One final option is to go cheap on a processor today, with the expectation of upgrading it in the future.  For example, you could get this:

    Once Bulldozer processors are out, if your friend is happy with his processor performance, he doesn't need to upgrade.  And if he decides he needs something faster, then the motherboard will be able to take a Bulldozer processor with a suitable BIOS update.

    Bulldozer will use Socket AM3+, which isn't out yet.  AMD isn't officially supporting Socket AM3+ processors in Socket AM3 motherboards, but some motherboard manufacturers are.  The processor sockets and pins do physically fit, so you can stock an AM3+ processor into an AM3 motherboard; the question is whether it will actually work.  MSI promises that Socket AM3+ processors will work in that motherboard:


    Next, there is the video card, which is really just a question of budget.  The card you picked makes no sense at all unless you're going to do the rebate, so I'll assume that you do rebates.  Some good deals at various price points, depending on what your friend wants to pay:

    Radeon HD 5670 for $57 after rebate:

    GeForce GTX 460 768 MB for $110 after rebate:

    Radeon HD 5850 for $150 with no rebate:

    Radeon HD 6950 for $205 after rebate:

    Not sure how long those prices will last, or if the cards will sell out.

    If you picked the card you did for EVGA's warranty service, you should note that they only offer a 2 year warranty on that particular card.  Also, if you thought it's a GeForce GTX 460, it's not.  It's a GeForce GTX 460 SE, which is a different card.  One could say that the SE stands for "slow edition", or perhaps pick something more profane.  It will perform comparably to the GeForce GTX 460 768 MB that I linked above, which also isn't a real GeForce GTX 460, as it loses 1/4 of the ROPs and memory bandwidth.


    Finally, you need an operating system.  If you happen to have a legal license available from some other source, that's fine, but if not:

  • pirateshakepirateshake Member Posts: 43

    Thank you so very much : ] Ill go with what you sugested

    Really though, thanks. You are alot of help sir

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