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Well, I'm looking for a harder MMORPG, something that shackles you down and actually takes not necissarilly skill but some knowledge and time. WoW and Rift are boring to me, the graphics rock, it just seems like you have to really try to die and you can just waiste everything away pretty easily.
I recently went back to EQ2 FTP, and that is not happening. Sony is damn good at ruining games, you have the PTP "free" server and then you have EQ2 Live servers with no population. I'm not paying 15 a month plus buying races.
I was originally from EQ1 and I played some Lineage 1 as well, liked em both more EQ geared however.
So basically, I'm open to all suggestions doesn't matter the setting Sci-Fi or Fantasy, and it can be a completely different game like EVE (EVEs learning curve killed me last time, it seems like a game that's already developed a base of dedicated players and catching up would be almost impossible)
Population doesn't have to be huge, just a large population on a single server. I don't care if the game only has one server but the server has a high population. It doesn't matter how big the total population is I won't ever be seeing anybody but the people on my server anyways.
(Also) What is this Darkpaw Fippy server I've been hearing about on EQ1.
Thanks all.
Everquest and Everquest 2 Veteran.
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What kind of hard are we talking about?
Hard as in you need to press button X in a 0,01 second timeframe or you die hard?
Or hard as in you need to remember 10.000 things and constantly compare them hard?
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Fippy Darkpaw is a new progression server, think EQ when it launched back in '99. From what I understand, all the bell and whistles of its modern version are stripped of it and every few months a new expansion is added to it, unlocking more content and readding the new stuff.
Other suggestions would be Tibia & Ryzom
Hard as in it requires effort of any sort to do anything other than press 1 - 5 and fight the right mobs.
Both would work.
Everquest and Everquest 2 Veteran.
That's very tempting, but I need to check if my next 3 years are clear on my calander first. What's the EQ population looking like? Same as other old MMOs a couple thousand?
Everquest and Everquest 2 Veteran.
Is it out yet?
Guildwars have some really hard stuff, like Droknars forge and so on... The campaigns start simple enough but the original one have a lot harder average than Wow and Rift. Factions and Nightfall are easier however.It is of course a CORPG so it is instanced.
Otherwise you really have to go back many years to find a hard MMO, you wont find any with good graphics.
Well, there is also Eve, but I got the impression you want something with PvE.
Vindictus is sort of hard when you are fighting bosses solo. You have to know when and what attacks to dodge and when you can attack. It is pretty easy early on but as you get higher level you start fighting harder bosses and they have some pretty challening things like a boss run where you fight boss after boss.
EQ1 (Flippy Flow or whatever the server is called) tells me when I logon in EU mornings that there are around 200 players in NewPlayer1 channel. Walking around in newbee area's (I just hit elvel 4 on my necro) I see a couple of players in the morning. During EU evenings it gets more crowded (300-400 players in NewPlayer1 channel), so I guess the progression servers are quite alive....
Fallen Earth or Darkfall comes to mind. If you havent already checked them out? Vanguard too but as much as i love it, i just cant stand the low population. And im on European side also...
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Fallen Earth is no hard MMO... It's just the same as others with a bit of a sandbox effect in stats build in. Quests are just like other MMO's. Walk to X on the map, do your thing and return :'(
Vanguard I agree on to be harder, but too bad it's empty indeed, and for us EU players it's REAL empty at our times, even on the more populated US server
well if you want a hard time consuming game...... final fantasy xi is the way to go. ff xiv is still being worked on and not sure how that is going to turn out yet... but i like it but the challenge isnt there yet. FFXI demands so much and nothing is given to you, although i cant speak of what has changed after the lvl cap increase this past winter
Just try EVE. Hardest mmo out there.
The hardest content will always be other players. I suggest you start PvPing if you want a consistent challenge in a game. If you won't want repeditive PvP content and you don't mind timesinks (which is sounds like you dont since you like EQ1) Id suggest darkfall
Remember Old School Ultima Online
I'd suggest trying Wakfu's open beta, which launches 27.4. It might not be what you seek, but it's different and requires a lot more strategy than button mashing.
www.wakfu.com
Anarchy Online
If you want to try a real "Exel" MMORPG, whole skill/equipment-system, contains a lot of depth. Most of time not just slapping stuff on, but have to aquire a other items to get stuff on. Combat isn't too hard though...
Rolf AO?? yeah right..
hardest mmo on market is darkfall online atm..
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Maybe "Dark age of camelot" is something for you. It has quite difficult pve and pvp (without ganker nerds).
Population is low, but good for such an old game.
hands down EVE online... its the best mmorpg out there, dont listen to anyone and dont form your opinion untill you participate in something major.
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