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FFXIV lvl 20 Lancer vs tera lvl 21 lancer.
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I've played all of the big titles out there, most of the f2p's out there.
Where is this mmo that has better combat? I've played several where you can fight big monsters which is something I'm aware of makes kids really excited and feel cool, so if thats what makes the combat better to you then yes please feel that way and stay away from the big(little) bad ffxiv ^_^.
Hey I'm not saying people should dislike poor combat, I'm just stating the facts. No matter how much you may "like" combat in X Y Z MMO that does not change the fact that it is inferior to other games out there.
Combat is hardly ever the reason for people to play MMO's. There has to be something else. If it has even somehow decent combat, that's of course a good bonus.
If someone is given a sandwich of shit and enjoys it, then yes there is a problem. It's one's opinion to like it or dislike it but a sandwich filled with shit is universally accepted that doesn't taste so good. In which case I'd rather go with nothing.
Seriously, you guys are arguing over this?!?! Really??
So, if I go and post a vid link to ohhh I dunno...this one for Tera...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQvaGjGQL48&feature=related
Are we still gonna argue about how un-scary the stupid dodo bird is? Really...its a freaking panda with a huge sword. And you dont even want to know how many bunny ears there are on youtube from the Tera archives.
The point of this topic is to say Tera is better than FFXIV. Thats all it is. There is no discussion here, its all the OP saying Tera is better and thats it. The rest is just people saying he is right or wrong. If he wanted to discuss it he would have posted a solo character in Tera fighting a trash mob just like the one he used for FFXIV.
When FFXIV brings out the NM (http://www.eorzeapedia.com/2010/11/25/new-retainer-costumes-monsters-and-more/#more-6059) then we can compare vids of elite/NM from Tera with FFXIV, until then this is just a bait thread.
As for the combat differences, they are different, thats all anyone can say and not be putting in personal preference. Under level 20 in FFXIV is noob level still, you dont have half the abilities to even count yurself a real combatant yet. So lets not run around trying to claim its the 'baseline' for comparison. Just means the person making the comparison is still a noob in FFXIV and making a level comparison to Tera (is lvl 21 in Tera still noob too? does anyone know? Are you still concidered a starting character at 20 in Tera like you are in FFXIV?)
Well i have sort of got FFXIV out of my mind,so it is already hard to remeber the combat,bit imo that TERA combat is nothing special.
The FFXIV video is solo,while the TERA is 2 players.That second player in TERA looks awful,the firing animation is pew pew,looks like a cheap star wars pew pew.I also think a little too much emphasis on being better is based on the TERA mob being bigger,there are larger mobs in FFXIV,they just like to go for more realism,that TERA mob looks like a fake machine,where as FFXIV mobs look more realsitic with better detail.
As for the FFXIV being slow,yes it looked slow to me as well,perhaps the player was loading up ?If i remember you can swing your weapon sooner if so desired.I still prefer the FF games combat over any,because they utilize more thinking,and use delays for weapons,Asian based games tend to be just super fast attacks,although the TERA Tank player did have decent animation as well,but the mage firing was as i said too fast pew pew.
Might also point out ,since FFXIV uses realistic delays for it's weapons,that video shows probably the slowest weapon in the game,the Polearms,daggers are faster combat.Anyhoot,i always prefer realism over just over sized fake looking mobs or over sized weapon being swung unrealistic for the player using it.
Here is a link to fasterr combat,as pointed out already,the player does take a moment i think to select his damage choice,otherwise it is much faster combat,if that is what the OP was looking for? LINK
Another link of the same level 21 and solo.Tell me the animations are not MUCH better than that mages pew pew in the TERA video? LINK
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If realism is accompanied by suckiness then no thanks.
The only problem would be that shit is actually physically harmful and bad for you, FFXIV is not since its a game. I'm able to enjoy a game which means I have a feeling of enjoyment while I play it, thats not harmful thats a good thing. You arent able to reproduce that feeling while playing the game, which is a loss unless you want to tell me you dont want to enjoy things. There are several games out there I'm unable to enjoy but alot of people seem to do and thats my loss.
Now please never again try to make a point with a half thought out idea that only ends up wasting other peoples time.
Good for you that you enjoy it but that doesn't mean it's good. When a game's combat is universally accepted as awful then that doesn't mean everyone is going to hate it. You could name the worst game ever produced and people would still play it. The thing here is that FFXIV's combat on a scale is at the bottom compared to any other game's combat not only TERA's.
Lol. It's always fun to use allegories and illustrations to highlight a viewpoint or argument, but they're nothing more than that: ways to illustrate a viewpoint.
That you see FFXIV as shit or likens it to be as a sandwich of shit, doesn't make this the truth, it only clarifies your viewpoint and preference in MMORPG's, and FFXIV clearly isn't to your taste.
That doesn't mean that FFXIV is fully unenjoyable or that all aspects and gameplay features in it are bad: some people clearly can enjoy it and have no problems with a different style and pace of combat.
To use an own example to illustrate the point: there were people that said how AoC was shit just as there are people saying the same about FFXIV. Still I and friends of mine had a blast of a time in AoC right from the start.
Tastes differ, that doesn't make one person's taste or opinion better or worse, it just means that different people have different preferences and requirements to achieve their bit of MMO fun.
Luckily we have a wide range of MMORPG's to pick from, for each taste and person their own favorite MMORPG to play.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
How much that matters when you go from "bad" to "very bad" combat on the scale.
Doesn't really matter, not that big of a difference which I mean I could tolerate with it but I don't see anywhere that FFXIV excels to pick it.
Yeah, basically.
When was it universally accepted? Even if it was, you're implying that the majority of people are right? Theres soo many instances where that is not true. Also in a world where peoples taste apparently enjoy a watered down simple game like halo, I'm pretty happy not belonging to that crowd.
Also are you comparing the combat to any other type of game or just mmorpgs? Because.. mmorpg wise there are soo many worse games.
Good for you that you dont like it but that doesnt mean its bad.
FFXIV has more classes and abilities in total then tera has, does that say anything?
No, it doesnt say anything about whether the combat is good or not. Also that video has 3 people in it fighting an elite mob. ALSO I read that player is really good and is taking on a mob that most people need a party of 5-6 people to take down. So in the end a video was posted with a slow average player killing a solo mob Versus a group killing a elite mob in tera.
Its nice to see the bias that this thread was started upon continues with every post that is made.
Also so I dont have to reply to any more stupid quotes of this and people saying im biased but towards ffxiv, I already said I want to try tera and hope that its good, that doesnt make me see a need to crap on another game with lies and videos of boring gameplay.
Its not like its impossible for me once the game is out to make a video of me fighting a boring mob really slow and shitty looking and then post it up and go "wtf this game sucks look how slow it is".
Why does the map look like an owl in a top hat?
Heh, I think if people started trash talking and focusing continuously on negative points to say about TERA in the TERA forumsection here - or any other MMO game for that matter - the fans of those games would react exactly the same as FFXIV fans here.
That has nothing to do with 'elite and superior game' but merely people replying upon what they see as an unjustly and onesidedly negative or biased attack on the game they like to play. Nothing more to it than that.
Try comparing MMO games in its forum section with other MMO's and highlight and exaggerate the negative things that can be found and said about that game, and you'll see exactly the same responses.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
The reason why even the wildest fanboi will admit that the game is not amazing and he just likes certain parts of it, is because it's that bad.
When TERA comes out, these same people will be crying about how much that game sucks too, it's natural progression.
I'd say that's your viewpoint, in maybe (another?) attempt to picture FFXIV in as negative a light as possible.
Another more reasonable explanation is that a lot of those gamers could be more honest and fair in their view of the game, seeing the good and bad, while (a considerable part of) the haters/critics only want to focus and indulge in the bad side of FFXIV. I know that I shared a lot of grievances and saw the same flaws others saw in AoC when it first came out, which were many enough that a lot of MMO gamers passionately disliked AoC. That didn't prevent me and others though from having a great time in AoC.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
You are the one thats ignorant and now you are mad because I am proving that Tera's system is better. You are still not proving that during group play everybody is not a Damage Dealer. Go look at the videos and its right there. Only an idiot would say that Guild Wars 2 has better combat. Why shouold I go do any research? When you say Guild Wars 2 has better combat you should be able to way WHY it has better combat. Auto Lock, press skill and watch dice rolls? Show me a video of Group Tactics and prove me wrong.
when watching the 2 videos i somehow remembered this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3e64sosEg