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SV apologizes for GM actions during disputed siege:

Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,543

At least they admit the GM was out of line...

(Note the thread about the siege can be found here: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/298106/GM-interferes-with-player-siege.html  It was closed due to fighting that developed in the thread.  Please note that this thread is in relation to the new information [Company Apology] so please no arguing over the actual siege and let's keep this one clean so it doesn't have to be closed)

 

 


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Let me start the apology by first saying that while the decisions the GM took were obviously wrong, he acted out of his best interest and had no intention of interrupting. It became apparant to us that the communication between the people ultimately in charge and the GM team caused both the intervention with the gate, as well as the ad-hoc-rule regarding the use of sledgehammers. It is not the job of the GM team to set up rules in the game, much less a sandbox, but to enforce them. A critical error in the internal communication lead to the GM acting like he did - but the fault for that is ultimately on the end of the people in charge. Setting up artificial rules in a sandbox disallowing the usage of a specific weapon or something similar is extremely counter productive. It is our job as developers to ensure that the mechanics work as intended.

 


 


"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • HanoverZHanoverZ Member Posts: 1,239

    GM team... Isn't there only 1?  Good to see SV finally taking blame for one of their screw ups.  But, in the end it shows how mismanaged the whole thing is.

  • username509username509 Member CommonPosts: 635

    Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,543

    Originally posted by username509

    Old.. Duplicate topic.

    It was discussed here...

     

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/298106/GM-interferes-with-player-siege.html

     Please actually re-read the OP in it's entirety...

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

    My ignore list finally has one occupant after 12 years. I am the strongest supporter of free speech on here, but free speech does not mean forced listening. Have fun my friend. Hope you find a new stalking target.

  • osmundaosmunda Member Posts: 1,087

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    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/56001-nov-19th-siege.html#post1060953

    Just thought I'd provide the link for anyone who wants the apology in it's entirety. It's fairly clear from the explanation that  it was poor handling of bugs and an ad hoc attempt to rectify a problem rather than corruption or favoritism.

     

     

  • linksalulinksalu Member Posts: 38

    Originally posted by osmunda

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    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/56001-nov-19th-siege.html#post1060953

    Just thought I'd provide the link for anyone who wants the apology in it's entirety. It's fairly clear from the explanation that  it was poor handling of bugs and an ad hoc attempt to rectify a problem rather than corruption or favoritism.

     

     

    From what I've read, the 'timeline' lists the yellow status as a bug -- yet didn't someone post a transcript of IRC a little while ago, with Discord responding to the yellow status as his way of making things more fair? Even if I misread the IRC transcript, that part seems a little wishy-washy to me. Come on, a bug that turned the gate AND several (defending) players yellow?

     

    While it's nice SV admitted a mistake, it seems like they're trying to take responsiblity off their only GM by blaming magical yellow-making bugs, probably in an effort to keep the community from demanding his termination.

    Originally posted by geldonyetich

    Wow, I knew you guys were pretty desparate to slam the game, but hacking the web page of a major game site so a user review masquarades as an official one? Pretty impressive.

    [Edit: no, after seeing there's an actual video associated with it, I guess not, despite the wierd way GameSpot distributes its content making it looks like the reviewer didn't even write this.]

  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    I think SV realized their policy of handling things been rather stupid and now try to blame it on one person.

  • SHOE788SHOE788 Member Posts: 700

    Gamebreaking bugs ruin a siege and they perceive it as a "GM issue".

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    This was an apology? Sounds more like them tacking it on bugs and then defending a GM's actions...

    He who keeps his cool best wins.

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    Here is the non-interference policy they promised a couple of days ago:

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/56079-non-interference-policy-outline.html#post1062070

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • QunitillianQunitillian Member Posts: 99



    Originally posted by Rohn
    Here is the non-interference policy they promised a couple of days ago:
    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/56079-non-interference-policy-outline.html#post1062070

    Why do I feel like posting the leak, the email from SV's CM regarding the bias in banning etc, by syndic and others? IMO that policy is not worth the paper it is written on TBH.

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