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Fantastic Game
fallenlords
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I am 80+ hours into Star Trek Online (STO) and I think it's a fantastic game. What appeals to me in this game is the mission structure. Some missions start off as a walk in the park and end up turning out to be a major adventure. Not knowing if something is going to take me 5 minutes or an hour to me makes it quite immersive. Just login for ten minutes and do what you think is a simple mission, two hours later you are still playing. The fact you have space combat and away missions I think mixes things up well, because they then have their own subcategories of gameplay. So in effect a mission can involve you doing five or six different things.
I still need to learn a lot more about the game in general. For example I seem to have started some sort of Tribble breeding program. Overall after playing some lame titles, like Age of Conan, this is just refreshing in so many ways. They have captured to me the feeling of Star Trek, it's fun and enjoyable to play and works as expected.
I am looking forward to S3 and the addition of mission-maker.
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1/10 We all know STO is a horrible game.
How long have you played this?
He who keeps his cool best wins.
Quoted for the best account picture ever.
let's see if you feel the same in two weeks
Which is what I was always led to believe and hence the reason I avoided it up until recently. But I don't agree it's a horrible game, each to their own as far as games go. But for where this is aimed and what is endeavors to achieve I think it does a fantastic job.
Why does it self destruct or something?
I tried STO and ended up hating it. Even got burned on a lifetime sub (yeah boo me). But everyone has their individual taste in MMOs, and I'm glad you're enjoying the game.
no, it's just that it takes about two to three weeks to hit vice admiral
trust me, the first week I felt exactly like you do now
Oh I have been playing for a month now (80+ hours) and I am only at Commander 8. I don't feel a need to level, which I also find to be a plus point in any MMO - found Fallen Earth to be the same. In fact it can be pretty annoying to level up in STO, you get your ship just right and then you get new one which needs new gear etc. I understand there might not be that much to do at Vice Admiral, but I had plans to roll a Klingon then perhaps try out the other ship classes.
ah, that explains it then
well, good for you
>.> Rrrreally?
I tolerate this game because I love Trek and want to talk to other Star Trek fans, and dress up my avatar, ship, and crew.
I don't play it for the missions, cus it is a very lame game. I probably will quit unless they add that crew-role update... or add anything that will make this playable.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
*throwsup in mouth a little*
It probably depends on your frame of reference. In contrast I 'like' Star Trek, watched the original series/movies seen a few of the later series but I am not into Star Trek. So for me and my limited experience of Star Trek as a whole I think they have done a good job with the game. If anything I find myself getting more into Star Trek because of the game. But I can understand if you have a deep interest you want to see certain things done certain ways.
That frame of reference I think can impact on how you view a game. I am a huge Conan fan, what Funcom did with Age of Conan I view as a crime to humanity. Not only did they produce a sub-standard bugged to the eyeballs game, they also messed with the lore and turned it into Age of Harry Potter.
I hit Star Trek online thinking it would be total garbage, so my starting frame of reference and my expectations were very low. Which might be a reason I find it fantastic game to play, I expected to hate it and I am expected it to be rubbish. Instead I found it fun and interesting.
I played STO with no expectations at all. I have seen all Star Trek movies and watched most of the TV series.
Do I still play STO? No.
Do I rant about it on forums? No.
Is it important why I stopped playing? No.
Does it make the game 'bad'? No.
Do I think it is a 'good' game? Yes, I think it is pretty good at what it is supposed to achieve - casual gameplay on Star Trek background.
Everyone knows that ratings are subjective only and as such very much meaningless, especially those 1/10 ratings because as 'we all know' internet forums(and online magazines) are polluted by immature trolls and haters.
This makes sense to me. I grew up a huge Trek fan and IMO Cryptic took a dump on the IP and picked possibly the worst way to implement portraying the vastness of space which such a shoebox game design, which is probably the way a lot of the people who really hate STO and Cryptic view it. You also have to consider at launch to say the game was barebones would be being charitable, and not only did they seem more interested in adding c-store content than adding free content, but they actually took a few things out that were in beta and added them to the c-store after launch. Add their disdain for their customers by telling us we "don't get it" and you might have a better picture of why this title and company get so much hate. However TBH, I think I'd still think STO was a shallow, crappy game if it was some generic scifi game with an unknown IP.
Conversely, I'm not really a R.E. Howard fan, and although I thought AoC was *OK* at best and wasn't worth subscribing to after the first month, I know quite a few people have the same opinion that Funcom bastardized the Conan universe just as badly as many of us think Cryptic did to STO.
This is the last bastion for Star Trek...
that is why I am here... and it feels like a graveyard.... the kind where hoodlums violate the graves....
And then there's the Klingon side of gameplay! Sad, so, so sad state of affairs.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
This has to be a fake post meant to troll for responses. We all know STO is sub par in every way.
What so you feel you can tell me what I should like or dislike? I explained why I thinks it's a fantastic game I love the mission structures, most missions/quests in MMO's are dull as dishwater. Go get 12 wolf skins, 50 wolves down the line you have your 12 skins. Return and get your reward. Very few quests are multi-faceted and involve doing more that one or two things. Or if they do, it's the same thing in a grindfest of repetition. I also think they captured the essence of what Star Trek kind of means to me.
Also, if I was you I would stop using the Royal 'We' in statements. Or if you do at least clarify who 'We ' are? For all I know it means you and your cat Tiddles. If you are speaking for other people I would be careful about that. Like telling people what they can and can't like, people don't always take kindly to it.
Doing missions in STO makes perfect sense, it just fit in. Federation officer doing patrols, responding to unknown signal, etc. The missions are well written with lots and lots hints and remarks to Star Trek lore.
give him a break guys, I liked the game as well when I was still Commander 8 :P
Ah, another of these posts. Normally I ask eveyone who posts these "STO is Great!" types of threads to play through the 30 free dyas, and then come back and give us their opinion of the game. However, since you are taking your time, I'll ask you to hit max rank and then come back. Part of the reason you are enjoying it so much is that when you only take STO in small doses, you do not notice the problems as much. The game only really seems to do well with the super casual crowd, although that is not how the game was originally designed; it was intended to be a Triple A title (despite what some try to spin it as now).
As for the Klingons, I think you will be highly disappointed with them; they still are extremely short on missions, and while Cryptic says it will flesh them out a lot more it is going to take them a long time to even get close to the Federation experience. From what people have said, getting PvP matches can be a problem nowadays.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
FL,
If you are into it and can get the RP mindset while doing the missions, they can be a lot of fun. I purchased the lifetime and had a lot of fun at first and was able to get into the game and really felt the space combat and mission elements were great. The problem for me was that there was not enough content to level without repeating missions and that removed some of the immersion. Then I tried creating a new char and found I had to do the EXACT same missions and they played out EXACTLY the same. It felt as if there was no real difference between classes. I tried crafting and spent a lot of time gathering resources, only to find what I crafted would not sell on the exchange and was not nearly as good as the loot I found. I then tried a Klingon but found as a faction they are only about 25% complete compared to the fed side. I think they only have a total of 15 missions from start to finish and that includes the addition fo the 8 new ones they got a few months back.
I tried selling my loot on the exchange but found no one wanted it since they were finding pretty much the same loot I found. I joined a fleet only to find there is no purpose in them since you cant join an instance as a fleet and you dont need access to any crafters like you do in other MMO's. I tried PVP but the queue times are long and as soon as one side starts winning, people leave the losing team and the it is a slaughter. I also have no use for the money in game since I find everything I need looting. I dont understand the money system and why there are over 10 forms of currency in the game and some can only be used in certain stations. I dont understand the powers, the descriptions are too vague and after you find one you like, it gets nerfed and you have to research and respec. I liked fleet actions like SB-24 but in the beginning, higher levels would jump in and claim all the loot. They changed it and level banded the actions but now there is not enough people who play so the actions are empty and can not be completed on your own.
I find it sad that Cryptic has decided to let players make the new missions and you watch to see how they market that "over 10k in new missions have been developed by players". The same thing happened in CoH and most of those missions were worthless. I also find it sad that a big feature in season 3 is to be able to repeat missions. If you create one of each char, you have already done each mission 3 times, why the need to repeat it again? Taking both these features into account I can only guess that Cryptic will not be spending much time on new mission content in the future and that is dissappointing. I find it alarming that Cryptic has spent so many resources on the C-Store and the new content there. Sure, the C-Store artists are not the guys making game content, so fire a few of them and hire a fricken game coder!
I think you can agree that many of my points are valid and there is a reason why there are so few people playing STO. The next time you are in a starbase, click on change instance and see how many are listed and how many people are in each one. I would guess that less than 5000 people are playing STO at any one time and they have less than 50k in active subs. Now that is just my guess from what I have seen in game and what I read from mmodata so I'm not saying its a fact but from my experience, it feels right to me. If you like the game and are having fun, I'm glad for you and hope you dont find the shortcomings that I did. On the other hand, I dont agree with your description that it is a fantastic game. It was universally rated at 60 or less which is a failing score and taking that with all the other points I mentioned here, I would say it is far from fantastic. Fun for a while, yes, but fantastic, not even close.
I dare say over time STO may get stale, but then that's the nature of the beast to an extent and one of the reasons I play multiple MMO's at the same time. Your points are valid, but then it depends what you are looking for in an MMO and your expectations. Having heard such bad things about STO I expected it to be a rotten game - but I am loving it. A lot of things in MMO's that may make or break things for people don't so much appeal to me, things like crafting, guilds, stupid stuff like social clothing, pets and all that fluff.
To me STO has aspects that make it more of an MMO than a lot of other games. Space encounters, fleet actions, random people joining in who just happen to be around at the time. Other MMO's everything has to be organised, we have to search/join a group, we have to set loot options, people whine and complain - stuff I don't care about at all. With STO the chances of just grouping with a random bunch of people is what to me MMO's should be about.
There are things I don't like in STO, but overall the positives to me outweigh the negatives. It's not a perfect game, contrary to popular belief I don't expect perfection. To me if a game runs well (performance wise) without issue and without many noticeable in-your-face bugs I am happy. So when STO does what it says on the tin that to me this is a major plus point but bear in mind I use to play Age of Conan (AOC). Just spent my AOC sub money for next year on WoW - enjoying that at the moment as well, because it just works
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Seems that players are not the only ones sick of it, haven't seen a copy on any shelf in a while. I stopped in at gamestop for something else and happened to ask if he had any copies of STO and how cheap, and the manager said no, and would not be getting or selling any more, because STO is a waste of shelf space.
Not my opinion.
I just assumed Gamestop quit selling PC games. Last I looked at our local one all that was there MMO wise was WoW + expansions. Damn all those other MMORPGs out there must be a waste of space too!
Much better selection of PC games and MMOs locally is at Best Buy, in my opinion. I even saw STO there, War, AoC, WoW...
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