It seems like nobody (gaming sites) wants to pass up the opportunity to hammer away at this game.
Or... these gaming sites are offering an objective viewpoint for gaming consumers. This allows people to be more responsible about what they chose to spend their money on.
Agreed. SE has offered the game for people to pay money (both box as well as subscription). The reviewers are giving the game a fair shake based on what is being offered to the consumer. The reviews are very brutal, but they are pretty honest overall. For a large developer, the game is very poorly done and should not have been offered to the consumer in exchange for money. The review sites are doing their job by calling SE out on the mat for this.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
IGN is normally too cupcake about reviews, anything below a 7 is a monumental gaming failure to me. They only give scores less then 5 to games that are downright unplayable and broken. This score being a 5.5 reflects the utter mediocrity of FF14 and to say the glass is half full, well... let's just say my glass of water is half empty and my monitor is being cleaned off after i spit water out in disbelief, what a rediculous statement to make.
IGN is normally too cupcake about reviews, anything below a 7 is a monumental gaming failure to me. They only give scores less then 5 to games that are downright unplayable and broken. This score being a 5.5 reflects the utter mediocrity of FF14 and to say the glass is half full, well... let's just say my glass of water is half empty and my monitor is being cleaned off after i spit water out in disbelief, what a rediculous statement to make.
I am gonna say this is the same situation as FFXI, FFXI was terrible at the beginning (although I don't think XIV is bad, just lacking). FFXIV Is a good game and I do enjoy it, but it is lacking so much in what SHOULD be there, and the culmination of minor bugs leaves many people disillusioned. I enjoy it more than the standard MMO, but needless to say it's going to take a lot of patches to get it where it should be. I am going to take it like this, as with FFXI, there is a "second" release coming up in close to a years time. As with FFXI (situation with Japanese getting it a year earlier) that will be the 'true' release, us computer players got it a year earlier than PS3 players, and the PS3 players will get the actual complete game, where we are getting this sort of preview. That's how I see the situation is going to play out, and it's going to be about 2 years before the game gets any decent review, which is fine. I am unaffected by these ratings as I see the game far above other games who have received equal ratings (STO and Champions mainly). This game has more potential than any mmo I've played at release and a company to back that potential, but I almost wish they had withheld the PC version along with the PS3 version because this will be an irreversible scar on both the game and the companies track records. It's going to take a lot of kick butt tactics to get this game to where it will be where FFXI is at the moment (In my opinion FFXI is one of the best MMO experiences I ever had, and I've had more than you would want to read). I've been waiting for IGN's rating because in my opinion it's the most intimate of any other sites, and I believe it is totally warranted, but I am still completely unaffected by it. I enjoy the game at the moment, but am still awaiting the improvements to come.
IGN is normally too cupcake about reviews, anything below a 7 is a monumental gaming failure to me. They only give scores less then 5 to games that are downright unplayable and broken. This score being a 5.5 reflects the utter mediocrity of FF14 and to say the glass is half full, well... let's just say my glass of water is half empty and my monitor is being cleaned off after i spit water out in disbelief, what a rediculous statement to make.
I am gonna say this is the same situation as FFXI, FFXI was terrible at the beginning (although I don't think XIV is bad, just lacking).
IGN is normally too cupcake about reviews, anything below a 7 is a monumental gaming failure to me. They only give scores less then 5 to games that are downright unplayable and broken. This score being a 5.5 reflects the utter mediocrity of FF14 and to say the glass is half full, well... let's just say my glass of water is half empty and my monitor is being cleaned off after i spit water out in disbelief, what a rediculous statement to make.
I don't care for other websites. I was waiting for IGN review. My guess was 7 and IGN gave it 5.5. Its fair IMO.
it''s funny how the fanboys try to cover it up with "it's a niche game" or "you're a WoW fanboy."
I'm lukewarm. A 5.5/10 review is an interesting thing really.
Is the review slightly over half full, or slightly under half empty?
It's both, and if you insist it's only one way or the other, you're the biased one, not I.
Closing Comments
With its newest MMO in its flagship franchise, Square Enix delivers a gigantic, beautiful fantasy world to explore. The flexible class system means you'll be able to mix and match abilities from many different roles so you can change your specialization at will. Much of the promise of the combat system and depth of the crafting mechanics are drowned, unfortunately, under a sea of interface and performance issues that hinder the experience at nearly every step. While there's a lot to consider when building your ideal class, there's far too little interesting structured content to chew on, resulting in an experience that quickly grows tedious and tiresome. All MMOs are designed to keep players logging in for long into the future, but at launch Final Fantasy XIV's questing mechanics feel more like a subway commute than a fun gameplay experience. Patches over the course of the next few months may address many of the technical issues, but for now this is not a world worth visiting.
I can live with that. Sounds to me like a solid foundation that's being built on. I never asked for anything more in a release-day MORPG.
I'll continue to visit it. In all things in life, the worth is a subjective, after all. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
A 5 is practically a zero, seriously pull your head out for once. Everyone knows that only the worst games get less than 5 out of 10.
This is strike three, gamespot, gametrailers, and now IGN.
Yeah, three reviews from people who aren't meant to review MMO's. I'm gonna listen to people who actually know what they're talking about. It's like listening to people reviewing fighting games who don't know anything about it. Blah
After all, in all things in life, the worth of a thing is a subjective judgement. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
And sometimes it's just junk, and the other man is crazy.
Sorry, you really don't get to say that, that's just not how the saying works.
Originally posted by gameguy369
Yeah, if IGN drops a score below a 7 on you - that means the game is essentiaully unplayable.
This is incorrect. By IGN's official policy on their scores, a 5.5 (by being in the range of 5.1 to 5.9) reflects mediocrity. It's only games that rank below 2.9 that, "have gameplay and technical problems that are so severe, they border on being completely 'broken.'"
Stop living in your fictional reality. 5.5 means complete trash, have you even looked at the games ranked higher than it? Other games considered complete trash?
Yep, any game getting below at least an 8 is typically interpreted as "passable".
Of course, you have to consider who we're talking about here. A review can be 99.5% negative, ripping it to shreds. Geld will latch on to some even remotely positive remark, such as "it has nice graphics", and spin it into something more significant.
For example, he'd quote or highlight the one positive remark about graphics and then respond with something like:
"See, they acknowledge that SE achieved a technological feat by making a game that looks as good as it does and can still run on modern hardware, so the review isn't all negative. Besides, certainly a developer who can do that can also develop a great game. The people reviewing it just didn't "get" what SE is trying to do. The game didn't "click" with them and so they didn't like it. That's the only conclusion I can come to for why they reviewed it so low".
Every MMO needs its tireless defender. FFXIV has Geld. It at least keeps the threads marginally entertaining.
That said, I don't need "validation" to support my own opinions on something - I played the game extensively and know what I experienced. However, it is somewhat affirming (in an unfortunate way) to see my overall impressions of the game being echoed by so many. It's unfortunate 'cause I'd much rather have been on the other side of the fence, enjoying the game.
IGN is normally too cupcake about reviews, anything below a 7 is a monumental gaming failure to me. They only give scores less then 5 to games that are downright unplayable and broken. This score being a 5.5 reflects the utter mediocrity of FF14 and to say the glass is half full, well... let's just say my glass of water is half empty and my monitor is being cleaned off after i spit water out in disbelief, what a rediculous statement to make.
I am gonna say this is the same situation as FFXI, FFXI was terrible at the beginning (although I don't think XIV is bad, just lacking). FFXIV Is a good game and I do enjoy it, but it is lacking so much in what SHOULD be there, and the culmination of minor bugs leaves many people disillusioned. I enjoy it more than the standard MMO, but needless to say it's going to take a lot of patches to get it where it should be. I am going to take it like this, as with FFXI, there is a "second" release coming up in close to a years time. As with FFXI (situation with Japanese getting it a year earlier) that will be the 'true' release, us computer players got it a year earlier than PS3 players, and the PS3 players will get the actual complete game, where we are getting this sort of preview. That's how I see the situation is going to play out, and it's going to be about 2 years before the game gets any decent review, which is fine. I am unaffected by these ratings as I see the game far above other games who have received equal ratings (STO and Champions mainly). This game has more potential than any mmo I've played at release and a company to back that potential, but I almost wish they had withheld the PC version along with the PS3 version because this will be an irreversible scar on both the game and the companies track records. It's going to take a lot of kick butt tactics to get this game to where it will be where FFXI is at the moment (In my opinion FFXI is one of the best MMO experiences I ever had, and I've had more than you would want to read). I've been waiting for IGN's rating because in my opinion it's the most intimate of any other sites, and I believe it is totally warranted, but I am still completely unaffected by it. I enjoy the game at the moment, but am still awaiting the improvements to come.
1. FF11 did not even compare to this. Did you play FF11 at launch? FF11 was different, but not completely absurd like this game. It had most of the core features most mmos have with a different battle system and playstyle. But it still had most of the central features we see today.
2. This game will not get a decent review in 2 years in my opinion. Sure they may update it drastically, but this game almost needs a complete overhaul of so many features. I couldn't imagine playing this game for a year, let alone 2, for it to get good as you could. What on earth could you do in this game till then?
3. This game has more potential than any mmo you've played...is basically saying this game has failed drastically at the moment but since SE made 1 good MMO it's a given it will be better. Seriously? More potential than any game based on what? It's graphics? I just don't get it. For the record, SE has never made a good MMO. Never.
Not saying score is wrong but who in their right mind takes these scores serious ? These sites gave junk like oblivion 9.7 scores even though its dumbed down so trained monkeys can play it (or console morons, take a pick). If the sites havent been given bribes their score will be low ! Thats just the way things are. The score is just showing off that ign havent been given "enough" to grant it a higher score. Idiot sites like that just cant be taken serious. All that said, the game deserves less than 5, its just good old crap.
it''s funny how the fanboys try to cover it up with "it's a niche game" or "you're a WoW fanboy."
I'm lukewarm. A 5.5/10 review is an interesting thing really.
Is the review slightly over half full, or slightly under half empty?
It's both, and if you insist it's only one way or the other, you're the biased one, not I.
Closing Comments
With its newest MMO in its flagship franchise, Square Enix delivers a gigantic, beautiful fantasy world to explore. The flexible class system means you'll be able to mix and match abilities from many different roles so you can change your specialization at will. Much of the promise of the combat system and depth of the crafting mechanics are drowned, unfortunately, under a sea of interface and performance issues that hinder the experience at nearly every step. While there's a lot to consider when building your ideal class, there's far too little interesting structured content to chew on, resulting in an experience that quickly grows tedious and tiresome. All MMOs are designed to keep players logging in for long into the future, but at launch Final Fantasy XIV's questing mechanics feel more like a subway commute than a fun gameplay experience. Patches over the course of the next few months may address many of the technical issues, but for now this is not a world worth visiting.
I can live with that. Sounds to me like a solid foundation that's being built on. I never asked for anything more in a release-day MMORPG, as I tend to regard these things as works in progress. It's the whole reason I pay for a subscription.
Regardless of the reviewer's saying it's not a world worth visiting, I'll continue to visit it. After all, in all things in life, the worth of a thing is a subjective judgement. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
Great points. I'm waiting for it to come out on PS3. Hopefully, by then, they will have had time to address those technical issues with patches.
Played FFXI for four years; looking forward to playing this one in the coming months.
Not saying score is wrong but who in their right mind takes these scores serious ? These sites gave junk like oblivion 9.7 scores even though its dumbed down so trained monkeys can play it (or console morons, take a pick). If the sites havent been given bribes their score will be low ! Thats just the way things are. The score is just showing off that ign havent been given "enough" to grant it a higher score. Idiot sites like that just cant be taken serious. All that said, the game deserves less than 5, its just good old crap.
The reviewer can only rate what he thinks himself and if he like Oblivion he will and should give it a high score... You might have a better idea on how to d handle this of course but it is the way all reviews have been done since people started making them.
To get a good score you should probably take a meridian of all reviews, that is close what most players think. That would still leave FF XIIV really low however.
And a score system from one to 10 where even the worst game gets a 5 like IGN (and this site) is kinda pointless. 1-5 and actually give the worst game 1 and the best 5 would be more logical, and yes, I know that this is off topic.
it''s funny how the fanboys try to cover it up with "it's a niche game" or "you're a WoW fanboy."
I'm lukewarm. A 5.5/10 review is an interesting thing really.
Is the review slightly over half full, or slightly under half empty?
It's both, and if you insist it's only one way or the other, you're the biased one, not I.
Closing Comments
With its newest MMO in its flagship franchise, Square Enix delivers a gigantic, beautiful fantasy world to explore. The flexible class system means you'll be able to mix and match abilities from many different roles so you can change your specialization at will. Much of the promise of the combat system and depth of the crafting mechanics are drowned, unfortunately, under a sea of interface and performance issues that hinder the experience at nearly every step. While there's a lot to consider when building your ideal class, there's far too little interesting structured content to chew on, resulting in an experience that quickly grows tedious and tiresome. All MMOs are designed to keep players logging in for long into the future, but at launch Final Fantasy XIV's questing mechanics feel more like a subway commute than a fun gameplay experience. Patches over the course of the next few months may address many of the technical issues, but for now this is not a world worth visiting.
I can live with that. Sounds to me like a solid foundation that's being built on. I never asked for anything more in a release-day MMORPG, as I tend to regard these things as works in progress. It's the whole reason I pay for a subscription.
Regardless of the reviewer's saying it's not a world worth visiting, I'll continue to visit it. After all, in all things in life, the worth of a thing is a subjective judgement. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
Great points. I'm waiting for it to come out on PS3. Hopefully, by then, they will have had time to address those technical issues with patches.
Played FFXI for four years; looking forward to playing this one in the coming months.
Great points? LOL! You are missing the point. SE released and charged for this crap. They have hurt their reputation. This release is as bad as Dark N Light! From a well known company, and a successful franchise? Very below expectations.
I have never read a review of an MMO on ign, gamespy, gamespot, gametrailers... any website that was worth the time spent reading it. Certainly not this site.
Why don't you look up IGN's review of Age of Conan or Warhammer Online, or many other MMO gems. Man they sure do know their stuff huh?
I get it, it is just one man's opinion who is paid to write about how much they love World of Warcraft or whatever other shallow game is being pitched to them, because that is what the reviews are shallow. I'm afraid I don't take much stock in video game journalism, and haven't since the days of Nintendo magazine.
Video game journalism is Brady's strategy guide, it is a parody of the word journalism. Even in the state of journalism today it is a pretty funny when they try to pass themselves off as professional journalists.
If you do all the more power to you, I was hoping though that this game would not cater to that crowd and am glad to see you won't be joining us until Mr. Gaming "media" gives you the okay. My server is full anyways.
Not saying score is wrong but who in their right mind takes these scores serious ? These sites gave junk like oblivion 9.7 scores even though its dumbed down so trained monkeys can play it (or console morons, take a pick). If the sites havent been given bribes their score will be low ! Thats just the way things are. The score is just showing off that ign havent been given "enough" to grant it a higher score. Idiot sites like that just cant be taken serious. All that said, the game deserves less than 5, its just good old crap.
Considering that most people LOVED Oblivion, why would anyone take what YOU say seriously?
I didn't care much for Oblivion, either, but "junk" it most certainly wasn't. It earned its high ratings.
When creating FFXIV, SE seemed to read forums like this one to see what hardcore old school gamers wanted. Unfortunately, it seems they came to the absolutely WRONG conclusions as to why they wanted them. In the end, they made a game with tons of built in tedium, with none of the payoff.
Not saying score is wrong but who in their right mind takes these scores serious ? These sites gave junk like oblivion 9.7 scores even though its dumbed down so trained monkeys can play it (or console morons, take a pick). If the sites havent been given bribes their score will be low ! Thats just the way things are. The score is just showing off that ign havent been given "enough" to grant it a higher score. Idiot sites like that just cant be taken serious. All that said, the game deserves less than 5, its just good old crap.
Considering that most people LOVED Oblivion, why would anyone take what YOU say seriously?
I didn't care much for Oblivion, either, but "junk" it most certainly wasn't. It earned its high ratings.
When creating FFXIV, SE seemed to read forums like this one to see what hardcore old school gamers wanted. Unfortunately, it seems they came to the absolutely WRONG conclusions as to why they wanted them. In the end, they made a game with tons of built in tedium, with none of the payoff.
I have never read a review of an MMO on ign, gamespy, gamespot, gametrailers... any website that was worth the time spent reading it. Certainly not this site.
Why don't you look up IGN's review of Age of Conan or Warhammer Online, or many other MMO gems. Man they sure do know their stuff huh?
I get it, it is just one man's opinion who is paid to write about how much they love World of Warcraft or whatever other shallow game is being pitched to them, because that is what the reviews are shallow. I'm afraid I don't take much stock in video game journalism, and haven't since the days of Nintendo magazine.
Video game journalism is Brady's strategy guide, it is a parody of the word journalism. Even in the state of journalism today it is a pretty funny when they try to pass themselves off as professional journalists.
If you do all the more power to you, I was hoping though that this game would not cater to that crowd and am glad to see you won't be joining us until Mr. Gaming "media" gives you the okay. My server is full anyways.
For now that is. Wait till after everyones free month is up to see if it's still *full*
As for the part about reviews; Yeah I can see taking them with a grain of salt and most people do - using multiple reviews to gauge the pros and cons to help form a better idea if that product is worth the money/time they might spend on it. Thing is, when more than 3/4's of the reviews say the same thing, in FFXIV's case the game being bad, that really says something... Especially when SE felt the same way, hence asking the same sites to not review the game till it was in a better state...
Whats funny though is how people tend to go all 'they are out to get us' conspiracy theory-ish when something they like is almost totally universally panned. "Blizzard is paying X site to post negative reviews on other games" and "This site only kisses X companies ass cause they pay advertising..." are the lines you almost always see used to discredit bad reviews, and its actually funny, sad, but funny none the less.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I have never read a review of an MMO on ign, gamespy, gamespot, gametrailers... any website that was worth the time spent reading it. Certainly not this site.
Why don't you look up IGN's review of Age of Conan or Warhammer Online, or many other MMO gems. Man they sure do know their stuff huh?
I get it, it is just one man's opinion who is paid to write about how much they love World of Warcraft or whatever other shallow game is being pitched to them, because that is what the reviews are shallow. I'm afraid I don't take much stock in video game journalism, and haven't since the days of Nintendo magazine.
Video game journalism is Brady's strategy guide, it is a parody of the word journalism. Even in the state of journalism today it is a pretty funny when they try to pass themselves off as professional journalists.
If you do all the more power to you, I was hoping though that this game would not cater to that crowd and am glad to see you won't be joining us until Mr. Gaming "media" gives you the okay. My server is full anyways.
For now that is. Wait till after everyones free month is up to see if it's still *full*
As for the part about reviews; Yeah I can see taking them with a grain of salt and most people do - using multiple reviews to gauge the pros and cons to help form a better idea if that product is worth the money/time they might spend on it. Thing is, when more than 3/4's of the reviews say the same thing, in FFXIV's case the game being bad, that really says something...
Whats funny though is how people tend to go all 'they are out to get us' conspiracy theory-ish when something they like is almost totally universally panned. "Blizzard is paying X site to post negative reviews on other games" and "This site only kisses X companies ass cause they pay advertising..." are the lines you almost always see used to discredit bad reviews, and its actually funny, sad, but funny none the less.
I will wait until after the free month is up, I paid for 6 months already so I'll do you one better. When I say full, I mean there are more people on today then there have been on at anytime since launch (even though new character creation on my server has been closed many times). I guess that everyone could just be playing this mmo as much as they can before their "free month" is up. TIme will tell, but somehow I don't think so.
I also never implied that Blizzard paid the sites to write such god awful reviews of a decent and real MMO like XIV, I simply meant that those sites are terrible at reviewing MMO's. Millions of people like WoW so it is pretty obvious that in an attempt to attract those people to their gaming sites or magazines they will appeal to those types of players.
I am not one of those types of players. Millions of people may play WoW, but that is millions out of Billions of people on earth. So lets please stop pretending that WoW has reached the level of social acceptance as say ice cream. Most gamers have poor taste in games, that is why we have so many terrible games.
However we have a few decent games still even in 2010 when most of the industry caters to your type of players. I'll be playing those, and fortunately for me. I'm not alone.
Not saying score is wrong but who in their right mind takes these scores serious ? These sites gave junk like oblivion 9.7 scores even though its dumbed down so trained monkeys can play it (or console morons, take a pick). If the sites havent been given bribes their score will be low ! Thats just the way things are. The score is just showing off that ign havent been given "enough" to grant it a higher score. Idiot sites like that just cant be taken serious. All that said, the game deserves less than 5, its just good old crap.
Considering that most people LOVED Oblivion, why would anyone take what YOU say seriously?
I didn't care much for Oblivion, either, but "junk" it most certainly wasn't. It earned its high ratings.
When creating FFXIV, SE seemed to read forums like this one to see what hardcore old school gamers wanted. Unfortunately, it seems they came to the absolutely WRONG conclusions as to why they wanted them. In the end, they made a game with tons of built in tedium, with none of the payoff.
Agree this was earned!!! Many people can't believe how this FF is turning out with all the funds and resources they have. It is almost like they are too big to care about what they are doing wrong. Again. Maybe it's a culture thing, more likely it is about money rushing.
When creating FFXIV, SE seemed to read forums like this one to see what hardcore old school gamers wanted. Unfortunately, it seems they came to the absolutely WRONG conclusions as to why they wanted them. In the end, they made a game with tons of built in tedium, with none of the payoff.
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5.5 is way too good for this game
Agreed. SE has offered the game for people to pay money (both box as well as subscription). The reviewers are giving the game a fair shake based on what is being offered to the consumer. The reviews are very brutal, but they are pretty honest overall. For a large developer, the game is very poorly done and should not have been offered to the consumer in exchange for money. The review sites are doing their job by calling SE out on the mat for this.
Vagrant Zero says you're incorrect.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
IGN is normally too cupcake about reviews, anything below a 7 is a monumental gaming failure to me. They only give scores less then 5 to games that are downright unplayable and broken. This score being a 5.5 reflects the utter mediocrity of FF14 and to say the glass is half full, well... let's just say my glass of water is half empty and my monitor is being cleaned off after i spit water out in disbelief, what a rediculous statement to make.
I am gonna say this is the same situation as FFXI, FFXI was terrible at the beginning (although I don't think XIV is bad, just lacking). FFXIV Is a good game and I do enjoy it, but it is lacking so much in what SHOULD be there, and the culmination of minor bugs leaves many people disillusioned. I enjoy it more than the standard MMO, but needless to say it's going to take a lot of patches to get it where it should be. I am going to take it like this, as with FFXI, there is a "second" release coming up in close to a years time. As with FFXI (situation with Japanese getting it a year earlier) that will be the 'true' release, us computer players got it a year earlier than PS3 players, and the PS3 players will get the actual complete game, where we are getting this sort of preview. That's how I see the situation is going to play out, and it's going to be about 2 years before the game gets any decent review, which is fine. I am unaffected by these ratings as I see the game far above other games who have received equal ratings (STO and Champions mainly). This game has more potential than any mmo I've played at release and a company to back that potential, but I almost wish they had withheld the PC version along with the PS3 version because this will be an irreversible scar on both the game and the companies track records. It's going to take a lot of kick butt tactics to get this game to where it will be where FFXI is at the moment (In my opinion FFXI is one of the best MMO experiences I ever had, and I've had more than you would want to read). I've been waiting for IGN's rating because in my opinion it's the most intimate of any other sites, and I believe it is totally warranted, but I am still completely unaffected by it. I enjoy the game at the moment, but am still awaiting the improvements to come.
You're done. Stop talking please. Kthxbuhbi!
I don't care for other websites. I was waiting for IGN review. My guess was 7 and IGN gave it 5.5. Its fair IMO.
Yeah, three reviews from people who aren't meant to review MMO's. I'm gonna listen to people who actually know what they're talking about. It's like listening to people reviewing fighting games who don't know anything about it. Blah
This. I agree with you on every point you made.
1. FF11 did not even compare to this. Did you play FF11 at launch? FF11 was different, but not completely absurd like this game. It had most of the core features most mmos have with a different battle system and playstyle. But it still had most of the central features we see today.
2. This game will not get a decent review in 2 years in my opinion. Sure they may update it drastically, but this game almost needs a complete overhaul of so many features. I couldn't imagine playing this game for a year, let alone 2, for it to get good as you could. What on earth could you do in this game till then?
3. This game has more potential than any mmo you've played...is basically saying this game has failed drastically at the moment but since SE made 1 good MMO it's a given it will be better. Seriously? More potential than any game based on what? It's graphics? I just don't get it. For the record, SE has never made a good MMO. Never.
Not saying score is wrong but who in their right mind takes these scores serious ? These sites gave junk like oblivion 9.7 scores even though its dumbed down so trained monkeys can play it (or console morons, take a pick). If the sites havent been given bribes their score will be low ! Thats just the way things are. The score is just showing off that ign havent been given "enough" to grant it a higher score. Idiot sites like that just cant be taken serious. All that said, the game deserves less than 5, its just good old crap.
Great points. I'm waiting for it to come out on PS3. Hopefully, by then, they will have had time to address those technical issues with patches.
Played FFXI for four years; looking forward to playing this one in the coming months.
Great points. I'm waiting for it to come out on PS3. Hopefully, by then, they will have had time to address those technical issues with patches.
Played FFXI for four years; looking forward to playing this one in the coming months.
The reviewer can only rate what he thinks himself and if he like Oblivion he will and should give it a high score... You might have a better idea on how to d handle this of course but it is the way all reviews have been done since people started making them.
To get a good score you should probably take a meridian of all reviews, that is close what most players think. That would still leave FF XIIV really low however.
And a score system from one to 10 where even the worst game gets a 5 like IGN (and this site) is kinda pointless. 1-5 and actually give the worst game 1 and the best 5 would be more logical, and yes, I know that this is off topic.
Nice try at the spin there buddy.
Great points? LOL! You are missing the point. SE released and charged for this crap. They have hurt their reputation. This release is as bad as Dark N Light! From a well known company, and a successful franchise? Very below expectations.
I have never read a review of an MMO on ign, gamespy, gamespot, gametrailers... any website that was worth the time spent reading it. Certainly not this site.
Why don't you look up IGN's review of Age of Conan or Warhammer Online, or many other MMO gems. Man they sure do know their stuff huh?
I get it, it is just one man's opinion who is paid to write about how much they love World of Warcraft or whatever other shallow game is being pitched to them, because that is what the reviews are shallow. I'm afraid I don't take much stock in video game journalism, and haven't since the days of Nintendo magazine.
Video game journalism is Brady's strategy guide, it is a parody of the word journalism. Even in the state of journalism today it is a pretty funny when they try to pass themselves off as professional journalists.
If you do all the more power to you, I was hoping though that this game would not cater to that crowd and am glad to see you won't be joining us until Mr. Gaming "media" gives you the okay. My server is full anyways.
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Considering that most people LOVED Oblivion, why would anyone take what YOU say seriously?
I didn't care much for Oblivion, either, but "junk" it most certainly wasn't. It earned its high ratings.
When creating FFXIV, SE seemed to read forums like this one to see what hardcore old school gamers wanted. Unfortunately, it seems they came to the absolutely WRONG conclusions as to why they wanted them. In the end, they made a game with tons of built in tedium, with none of the payoff.
I love that word...
For now that is. Wait till after everyones free month is up to see if it's still *full*
As for the part about reviews; Yeah I can see taking them with a grain of salt and most people do - using multiple reviews to gauge the pros and cons to help form a better idea if that product is worth the money/time they might spend on it. Thing is, when more than 3/4's of the reviews say the same thing, in FFXIV's case the game being bad, that really says something... Especially when SE felt the same way, hence asking the same sites to not review the game till it was in a better state...
Whats funny though is how people tend to go all 'they are out to get us' conspiracy theory-ish when something they like is almost totally universally panned. "Blizzard is paying X site to post negative reviews on other games" and "This site only kisses X companies ass cause they pay advertising..." are the lines you almost always see used to discredit bad reviews, and its actually funny, sad, but funny none the less.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I will wait until after the free month is up, I paid for 6 months already so I'll do you one better. When I say full, I mean there are more people on today then there have been on at anytime since launch (even though new character creation on my server has been closed many times). I guess that everyone could just be playing this mmo as much as they can before their "free month" is up. TIme will tell, but somehow I don't think so.
I also never implied that Blizzard paid the sites to write such god awful reviews of a decent and real MMO like XIV, I simply meant that those sites are terrible at reviewing MMO's. Millions of people like WoW so it is pretty obvious that in an attempt to attract those people to their gaming sites or magazines they will appeal to those types of players.
I am not one of those types of players. Millions of people may play WoW, but that is millions out of Billions of people on earth. So lets please stop pretending that WoW has reached the level of social acceptance as say ice cream. Most gamers have poor taste in games, that is why we have so many terrible games.
However we have a few decent games still even in 2010 when most of the industry caters to your type of players. I'll be playing those, and fortunately for me. I'm not alone.
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Agree this was earned!!! Many people can't believe how this FF is turning out with all the funds and resources they have. It is almost like they are too big to care about what they are doing wrong. Again. Maybe it's a culture thing, more likely it is about money rushing.
So it seems.