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So secret that threads vanish (Why would anyone buy another game from Funcom?)
fallenlords
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What happened to the thread on Why would anyone buy another game from Funcom? Close/lock a thread or state a reason for removing offending posts - but for a thread to vanish is out of order ( I can't find it on search and the previous links are gone). Especially a thread which has been going on for 20+ pages and a considerable amount of time.
I think the thread should be re-instated or a public comment as to why it was removed. If you view this as questioning moderation which is against the rules fine I don't really care - feel free to ban me. Funcom have a an active influence on this site and then a thread painting them in not such a good light gets removed. Add two and two together and you get four - are you perhaps more concerned about your paymasters than they are about legitimate comment on a company and it's game.
That thread shouldn't have been removed, I didn't catch the last comment by Cyphers but up until that point I saw nothing wrong with it. It was an active discussion, positive, negative and relevant. If that meets your criteria for post removal you might as well delete the whole board. Obviously this site has a bias towards Funcom because this is not the first thing that has vanished and related to Funcom.
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Threads are removed all the time...get over it.
The Admins will never say anything anyway...no point in asking.
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Couldn't care less to be honest, just trying to point out a bias towards Funcom.
If you couldn´t care less why make a thread about that thread then? Maybe it was simply so that that thread was considered exessive trolling, flamebait or whatever. As sgtfrog said: Threads are removed all the time
All statements I make is from my point of view unless stated otherwise.
They have no bias towards Funcom..threads are removed from every game.
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This actually might be true as Funcom seems to advertise on this website. This is a commercial website and they need to make money. It might also not be true, but who knows or cares. It is there website, there rules and they can do whatever the hell they want with it. However deleting threads for developer makes the userbase angry. No userbase = no advertisers = no money.
So assuming they take the lesser of two evils I guess they do not remove threads for developers. Anyhow no-one forcing your to be here. You can go to an other source of MMO information or even create your own website.
They also advertise like 100 other mmo as well....
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Just because threads are removed from every game, that doesn't disprove bias towards FC.
People say the mmorpg.com has a bias towards x developer all the time..
It is all BS in the end.
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Why? There is clearly a financial relationship between the site and various developers
You must have missed the hundred or so times accusations like this were levelled & responded to before.
The editorial team, forum moderation team are one part of the business & has nothing to do with advertising on the site.
People always feel more comfortable concocting juicy conspiracy theories about everything rather than accept the bland, boring & mundane truth, the thread was probably deleted based on it being inflammatory & serving to only encourage a negative trainwreck instead of opening up a even-handed or balanced debate, just because it was around for a while doesn't mean it was a valid thread, the mods just hadn't got around to it in that time & when they did, BLAM!
But hey, if it makes you feel better to wear a tin-foil hat go ahead, you only harm yourself.
If this topic disappears too please don't be surprised again.
why? first of all you are discussing moderation which is a complete no..no secondly this topic is just pure flame bait.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
Do people really believe that to be the case? Some people are more naive than I thought.
OK if there is no bias towards Funcom - reinstate the thread removing any posts they deem to be against 'the rules'. It is heavy handed to delete an entire thread especially one that has been going on for some time and is 20+ pages long.
It is easier to delete and entire thread rather than 20 pages of flames.
It happens all the time.
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do u think it could just be as simple as its more time efficient for the moderators to delete a pointless 20 page thread rather than going through it one thread at a time? Plus if you deleted some posts the whole thread wouldnt make any sense either.
I don't recall being obnoxious or aggravating in that last comment. In fact, I don't recall anything at all anymore what I wrote in it. Lol, sure puts perspective in the time I'm wasting in posting when I don't even recall myself anymore what I wrote.
Ah well, it's fun to do when I'm bored and should have to do more important but tedious stuff
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Somebody needs to define what flaming is then, because I saw people posting opinion. I am still convinced if that thread had been more pro Funcom it would still be around.
I always thought moderation was about keeping things on track - not censorship. Deleting an entire thread boils down to censorship which goes against my freedom of speech mentality. To justify the deletion of thread because it's easier - just means censorship exists and moderation is non-existant.
I can't imagine you saying anything out of hand. Although we don't agree on things I have always seen your responses as more measured than mine.
This is privately owned and run website. there is no such thing as freedom of speech. If you break TOS your topic gets locked or posts deleted, its that simple.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
@OP: Hmm. You're questioning the motives of the moderators and even more, the moderating itself.
That's begging for moderation practically on any site or forum. Will be interesting to see how this'll run its course.
/inbeforelock
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Well the whole point of this thread is that thread didn't break any rules as far as I am aware, while ironically this is probably breaking rules. But anyway, you can still have freedom of speech within a closed environment all it takes is active moderation and not censorship. Anything that censors anything, privately run or not, is bad to my mind. Moderate fair enough but don't censor, two different things.
kaltoum is correct.
Like it or not, your definition of freedom of speech is a fallacy.
If you don't like the cencorship and the lack of moderation (in your opinion) that occurs here at MMORPG.COM; you are "FREE" to create your own site, or visit a plethora of other sites instead. Now THAT is freedom.
Freedom of speech is being able to to speak without censorship or limitation. Now I suppose in terms of rules of conduct/TOS you are right, limitations apply so freedom of speech on this board would be a fallacy. But then freedom of speech anywhere is also a fallacy, because we have limitations imposed on us in law.
Overall this being a discussion board you should be 'free' to express any relevant opinion without breaking the rules. You shouldn't expect a thread to be censored. We agree to moderation I don't remember agreeing to censorship and they are two different things.
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Who would register an account just to post a thread like that and then complain on another forum when it gets deleted?
There are hundreds if not thousands of threads on MMORPG.com bashing Funcom and its games. If there weren't, almost the entire AoC subforum would be empty.
Don't be so paranoid. Threads get removed because someone violated the rules, generally someone gets a warning for it and they're the only ones that know why the thread was removed. Yes, it is entirely possible that there is a bias. But it's highly unlikely. Like I said, there are tons of threads bashing Funcom for AoC or even AO launch. There is usually something very specific that sets off a thread deletion - such as trolling, flaming or NDA violation.
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