Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

General: Fighting Talk: LoTRO vs. WoW

1246712

Comments

  • skeaserskeaser Member UncommonPosts: 4,023

    Originally posted by Durudan

    SOLO play

    Journeying throughout Middle-Earth without a companion is entirely possible but difficult at times. Lord of the Rings Online is a game that thrives within group culture and certain quests throughout zones cannot be attempted without aid. These quests can lead to frustration and when nobody is about, a lengthy grind of assorted beasts as you try to navigate this obstacle. Good but not entirely solo-friendly, Turbines game doesn’t quite hit the mark but then again, why would you want to play an MMORPG alone? 7/10

    Really? that's a complete lie.... you can totally solo if you choose the rigth zones ofcourse you can't solo elite group quest's same as wow... peace

     

    Depends on your class too. I was soloing a LM for a little while, it's possible, but very...very frustrating and slow at times.

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • funkwellfunkwell Member Posts: 15

    "Middle-Earth is a nice place to enjoy pipe weed and good banter."

     

     

    HAHA yes!!! I love it!

  • UrdenUrden Member UncommonPosts: 5

    Player Character is completely off.

    Wow has amazing character animation and it is unbelievably fluid. No MMO compares to how smooth the charcter animation and abilities are. Also, wow armour and weapons are wicked looking... nothing compares to gettiing a new item and staring at your toon.  9/10 wow

    LOTRO weapons and armor are absolutly boring. The character animation is clunky. Fighting is clunky.  4/10 LOTRO

    I dont even understand how somoene could arrive at this.

    Otherwise I think the rest of the article is close to my feelings.

  • BunnykingBunnyking Member UncommonPosts: 126

    LOTRO should NOT have won that Player Character category. It has the ugliest player character models in any mmo. By far. Really. They are.

    Animations are a second point. Wow have very good animations while LOTRO's charcter animation leave a LOT to be desired. Should be like 7/10 for WoW and 3/10 for LOTRO.

  • danJ188danJ188 Member Posts: 56

    I have been subscribed to both LOTR, and Wow(since Day 1 infact, and from the original beta years ago.)I have to say, in many points where wow won-I didnt understand your comparisons.[snip] All in all, LOTR is by far, the BETTER made game. But WoW has something lotr will never have.

     

    Casuals.

     

    In droves, in multitudes the industry has never seen, they come clammering for their epics, and glowey items that are for sure to denote them as "Top tier" players. Mayhaps back in vanilla wow, or even BC this was the case. But with the advent of Wrath, and now Cata? Purple is the new gray newb items. The game has lost its luster for us old vets(All that I have seen)and burn out rates just get worse and worse with each passing lack(Or lack thereof.) You can call wow the most succusful game, and it is, by pure margins of money and sub bases. But it fails on the greatest asset a game can give you.

     

    Enjoyment.

  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Member UncommonPosts: 2,551

    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Originally posted by Sovrath


    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    I'm absolutely shocked the author of the article gave LoTRO a 10/10 on group play.  Given that almost all the story quests are now soloable, the game is a complete solo fest until the level cap.  Sure, there are some group quests scattered throughout the game world, but there are just as many of those in WoW.  Even so, good luck finding a group to complete some of those quests as most servers are completely devoid of any sort of a cohesive low level population. 

    I played LoTRO at launch and honestly had a much more positive experience than in any other time I tried the game, because there were a lot more group oriented activities and the game had the low level population to support them.  Now, however, low level areas are a ghost town save for a few newbies, twinked alts, and bored high level players.  I do hope that the switch to F2P brings back some of the fun I had with this game at launch, but as of now, it's laughable to suggest that LoTRO has anything close to flawless (as the 10/10 represents) group play.

    Wait a minute, when did they make all the group quests soloable?

    Last I heard it was just book 1.

    Yeah it is only book one.

    I have been known to be wrong before. 

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    Originally posted by Urden

    Player Character is completely off.

    Wow has amazing character animation and it is unbelievably fluid. No MMO compares to how smooth the charcter animation and abilities are. Also, wow armour and weapons are wicked looking... nothing compares to gettiing a new item and staring at your toon.  9/10 wow

    LOTRO weapons and armor are absolutly boring. The character animation is clunky. Fighting is clunky.  4/10 LOTRO

    I dont even understand how somoene could arrive at this.

    Otherwise I think the rest of the article is close to my feelings.


    The gear in Lotro is not that bad, you can hide it with cosmetic


     


    Here is my Toon...I don’t think he looks that bad, there is plenty of good looking cosmetic gear.


    imageimage


     


    Also the High-end Moria and Mirkwood Gear looks pretty Badass.

    image
    March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    Originally posted by Bunnyking

    LOTRO should NOT have won that Player Character category. It has the ugliest player character models in any mmo. By far. Really. They are.

    Animations are a second point. Wow have very good animations while LOTRO's charcter animation leave a LOT to be desired. Should be like 7/10 for WoW and 3/10 for LOTRO.


    I think the character models look pretty good, they don’t have that plastic look like in EQ2 and Vanguard when they try to make them look realistic...The animation could use some work though. 

    image
    March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon

  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member Posts: 1,880

    Originally posted by Ceridith



    Pre F2P option, LOTRO wins.

    Post F2P option, we all lose.


     

    Um how does that equal a loss considering it doesn't affect someone who subscribes to lotro they get everything that a f2p player would get through the turbine store.

  • RamadarRamadar Member Posts: 167

    I liked LOTRO for the time I did play it , I just felt it wasn't to scale. the world seemed too small to me considering it only took me about around 5 minutes to run from the shire to bree when it should have taken hours or days or more to travel that distance on foot

    Evil will always triumph because good is dumb....

  • Yavin_PrimeYavin_Prime Member Posts: 233

    You know I love both games, but sadly they both are so similar that its hard to pick one over the other.

  • Cirn0Cirn0 Member Posts: 162

    Though I got tired of LotRO as it was similar to WoW, yet I find LotRO more enjoyable for new players, who havent played WoW.

     

    I remember myself walking into that hobbirt forest with treants and stuff in the evening. At first it was beatiful, sunny, everything was green around you, the trees were so high and so dense that the sky was made of green leaves sparkling on the sun. And while I was enjoying it, it soon became dark. Everything went silent around you, the forest became silent, as if there was something even greater than the forest itself, and sinister... Thats when I decided that I should get from that place as soon as possible. And after sneaking around for about an hour I finally got out, no more wolves or ther hungry or sinister creatures, I was finally out of that kingdom of trees. The night sky looked so peaceful...

     

    That was my most enjoyable expirience in MMO, not just LotRO. And as I played LotRO I found that I enjoyed questing and the world itself much more than in any other mmorpg. Soon I got bored, I dont even know why, maybe because I got used to constant grind and power lvling, and other than to enjoy the game and its world, all I did was to try to reach lvl cap as soon as possible.

     

    Yes WoW is prettier, its more colorful and shiny than a rainbow. It has pretty and (im sorry) titty characters, vanilla world where orcs and foreseken are as good guys as humans and elves, and bad guys wait for you to lvl up and kill them. Its easy to play, you can solo most of the game, get a cool motorcycle or huge sword which looks like a club, for your character. In short  - an ideal game for person who doesnt give a shit about the world or the lore, and wants to become cool and stuff.  And while I enjoy playing WoW with my friends, I find its lore and world dead, boring, ridiculous and stupid. You kill every freaking character you've known since Warcraft III RTS, you ride fucking bikes, copters, and fugly dragons (kids sure love dragons), ORKZ R GUD and everything else seems like a game created by a child, with huge swords, dragons, bikes and freaking lasers out of the eyes and any other crap that comes out of its mind.

     

    I wonder how LotRO is going. I miss people playing motral kombat tunes in taverns, Tolkien's world (even if I imagined it different while reading the book, still, both movie and the game world is very well done, if only orcs didnt look like bags of crap...)... WoW isnt going to die soon, yet I hope it will, as what it became now isnt very enjoyable. I hope someone will risk to make something new, as myslef and a lot of people (im sure there are) are waiting for some fresh MMO which isnt going to be clone of WoW, and while doing that, I think I'll switch to LotRO when it goes f2p.

    IZI MODO?! Ha-ha-ha!

  • seabeastseabeast Member Posts: 748

    You know, I like wow better due to the combo of solo/group plays. Not to mention the story line. Passing through the King expansion was very fun. Here is what it comes down  to. In WoW one can fly, one can drive/ride, one can ride bieatch in a frineds ride. Lots of options I guess which is big plus on WoW.

  • erictlewiserictlewis Member UncommonPosts: 3,021

    I have played both.  I hate lotro to its very core tor turning a great game into what is going to be another bad example of a free to play game.  I would have much rather Lotro shut down that do that.

    Wow I gave up on it 3 years ago due to so many nerfs haded out to my pally.

    However I will say this I would go back to wow if I had to, but Lotro is dead to me now.

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    Originally posted by erictlewis

    I have played both.  I hate lotro to its very core tor turning a great game into what is going to be another bad example of a free to play game.  I would have much rather Lotro shut down that do that.

    Wow I gave up on it 3 years ago due to so many nerfs haded out to my pally.

    However I will say this I would go back to wow if I had to, but Lotro is dead to me now.


    I am going to give LOTRO a month or two when it goes F2P before I decide to leave or no...I will stay on sub for sure though.

    image
    March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon

  • just2duhjust2duh Member Posts: 1,290

     I think this writer did a really good job with this one, and I agree 100% with the outcome, because personally.. I rather disliked both of these games, and it pains me to say this but.. when looking back at my experience with the two, I actually did enjoyed WoW a little bit more, so from my perspective they got this vs. dead on.

     Great job :)

  • ZumgulgarZumgulgar Member Posts: 15
    Both good games, I like LOTRO better.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,768

    I couldn't help but feel a bias here as every area seemed to be exaggerated,when talking aout WOW.

    When you talk about NEW player experience,you are talking about as bland a beginning to any game out there,there is nothing exciting about stepping into the noob town[not city] in Wow.

    I read other over blown notations such as exciting quests?Ar we talking about fetch my stein then return it ,ya that was pretty amazing...not !.Or are we talking about fetching me 8 or 10 skins?ya reall imaginative and exciting...again not !.

    There is actually very little in Wow that screams exciting or imaginative,most everything has already been done in Everquest and looks better in Everquest 2.I do agree there is lots of choice in WOW,but i have mentioned before that Wow aims for quantity over quality.Blizzard has had the money and time to at least follow the path of Runescape and try to upgrade the game,instead they just keep adding more quantity,never once improving quality.

    It is not necessary for me to go over every single point,as i already mentioned it all seemed to be exaggerated with bias.Reading it all ,it seemed like the author was stuggling to  call things "tired",instead of saying the truth,the players look awfully cheap and the game world is pretty cheap as well.

    The telling tale of bias is something i ALWAYS see when people talk about WOW,they have to start every speech with Wow's numbers or past success with numbers.When you are portraying a non biased comparison of games,the developers past or numbers SHOULD have absolutely zero bearing on any of it.

    I never had the opportunity to play LOTRO,but i doubt it would matter as Wow was winning this battle as soon as the author mentioned WOW's numbers.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • MackehMackeh Member Posts: 164

    If LOTR had world PvP like WOW I would have packed in WOW years ago, but without the faction based World PvP LOTR is incredibly boring as the world feels so safe.  You just know while u quest that nothing bad is going to happen, it would be great if u had to keep your eyes open for orcs etc.

    LOTR failed because of shit PvP.

  • karat76karat76 Member UncommonPosts: 1,000

    Aside from the raid grind wow is great for people wioth jobs and families with lower end pcs. You can log in for an hour or so and actually do something.

  • XTC2XTC2 Member Posts: 30

    It's the same old thing...:

    Q: (sing-song) "why would you want to play an MMORPG alone?"

    Because I effing FEEL like it.  Got it?  It's more challenging soloing something that isn't meant to be soloed and I don't feel like wasting others' time by asking them help me with simple solo quests. I group when I need to and solo otherwise.  Many players play this way and we expect our playstyles to be catered to also. Deal with it.

    You forgot graphics:

    WoW  -1/10 because it looks like a friggin' kids' game.

    LoTRO  -7/10 (because there is zero grit to the look).

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,025

    Originally posted by duffalpha



    Let me preface this by saying that I have played both games to level cap, and am playing neither currently. I'm for waiting for something new, and I'm hopeful. You know. A new hope sort of thing. 

    Anyways, here is MY breakdown. 

    Game world

    WoW: 10/10.

    Never has a map been so massive, diverse and interesting. You can ride for literally an entire day and never see the same place twice. There is a sense of epicness and immersion that innovated in ways we have a hard time remembering. 

    LOTRO: 6/10

    Let me start by saying that the graphics are stunning... Sitting in the shire overlooking a waterfall with your graphics cranked to ultra was an amazing experience... Unfortunately it was fouled by the fact that from that perch I could see both Hobitton and the Buckleberry ferry... The sense of epicness and size brought to us by the books and films is completely absent. I wouldn't have liked the hobbit if Bilbo had made the trip to Rivendell in 15 minutes. This problem of scale is compounded by the repetition of environments... their struggle for realism left all the terrain looking too similar. With the exceptions being places like Angmar, which were downright unenjoyable to behold.  

    Characters

    WoW 8/10

    Good, well balanced characters... They were unique, fun, and interesting. They all had excellent chemistry... Unfortunately there was little diversity... you basically got 8 choices... 

     

    Lotro 6/10

    Balance was a factor here. Some classes sucked. You picked a sucky class? You cant be as good as someone else. I went Champion, my buddy went hunter.... He loved the game, I despised it.... He was constantly sought for in PvP and Instances...and I was useless. 

     

    Solo Play: 

    WoW 10/10 The author nailed it.

    LOTRO 5/10... If I can count the hours I just sat around grinding traits waiting for a group to help me with a quest... I hear this has been changed, but in my era LOTRO was for solo classes...or waiting. 

    Group Play 

    Wow 9/10

    WoW brought us amazing instances, fun quests, and world PvP....

    LOTRO 8/10

    Also great fun with all of the above with the exception of PvP... Unfortunately I found the LOTRO instances slightly buggy, and the book system made it hard to find people willing to team up. 

    PvP 

    WoW 9/10

    Amazing, Diverse, Fun...

    LOTRO 1/10

    Completely imbalanced.... Only one Battleground at launch... Monsters were more of a side show... Lag issues... 

    And finally I think community is completely based on luck... there are good and bad communities in both these games.... 

    So by my calculation...

    Wow 46

    LOTRO 26

     

    Just my ten cents. 


     

    Totally agree. Not being fanbois but this poster hit the nail.

    image

  • DrSpankyDrSpanky Member Posts: 341

    I disagree with a few of the points laid out here (for both lotro and wow. I am a lotro fan but do not think it is the greatest game ever). However, there are two points to me that make lotro shine: the community and the shire.

    The comunity is the number one reason I left wow, and the shire is at times just jaw-droppingly beautiful to me. I am, of course, a lord of the rings nerd from way back, and I think Turbine did an inspired job on the shire. The rest of the areas in the game, maybe not so much, but to me, the shire is extremly important and I think Turbine realy nailed it.

    It's a proven historical fact that beer saved humankind.

  • lonewolf1980lonewolf1980 Member UncommonPosts: 89

    Originally posted by Kingscifi

    This article is just another "please the people" thread it doesnt tell the real side of anything. WoW is way better in each area. Yea believe it or not grp play is very present in WoW, you just are given the option to use it or not unlike most games that force you to grp.

    Dont care to go into further details but Lotro is going F2P for a reason...

    Turbine should have let Lotro and reopen Asheron's call 2 with F2P

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    Originally posted by Besttheiswow

    wow "slightly better"???

     

    Me and millions of more people would say "alot better in almost every way"

     Millions ate at McDonalds and still do but .....

    30
Sign In or Register to comment.