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bigdjrbigdjr Member Posts: 40

Hey guys I'm going off to college soon but I'm looking for a gaming laptop because it's also going to replace my computer.

I was thinking of this one but I was wondering if there was something better and/or cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G51JX-A1-15-6-Inch-Gaming/dp/B0034NGZWM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

My max price range is around $2000

Comments

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    Alienware makes good quality computers, but you can do better for the same amount of money elsewhere.

    An Asus G73JH would be an idea choice. It comes with a Core i7 720QM, 6GB of DDR-3, and a Mobilty Radeon HD 5870. It's about as good as you're going to get, and you can get one for $1300-$1600 (depending on the variant).

  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547

    Just look for an ASUS and stay away from Alienware, unless you have cash you just want to burn and don't mind carrying around a miniature desktop.

  • ThedrizzleThedrizzle Member Posts: 322

    Reasons to not buy a gaming laptop:

     

    1. Battery life = slim to none

    2. Overpriced. You can build a rig from the ground up for much cheaper

    3. They run WAYYYYY hot. To the pint where after 45 mins its uncomfortable being on your lap

    4. Hardware becomes outdated quickly and you can't really uprgrade a laptop

  • bigdjrbigdjr Member Posts: 40

    Originally posted by Thedrizzle

    Reasons to not buy a gaming laptop:

     

    1. Battery life = slim to none

    2. Overpriced. You can build a rig from the ground up for much cheaper

    3. They run WAYYYYY hot. To the pint where after 45 mins its uncomfortable being on your lap

    4. Hardware becomes outdated quickly and you can't really uprgrade a laptop

    I would love to build a new rig for that amount but I dont have an option I have to get a laptop.

    Yeah I think I'm going to get that ASUS cuz thats all i can find that good for that price.

  • The_GrumpThe_Grump Member Posts: 331

    Originally posted by bigdjr

    Hey guys I'm going off to college soon but I'm looking for a gaming laptop because it's also going to replace my computer.

    I was thinking of this one but I was wondering if there was something better and/or cheaper.

    http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G51JX-A1-15-6-Inch-Gaming/dp/B0034NGZWM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    My max price range is around $2000

    Check into the Toshiba Qosmio. I use a Toshiba Qosmio X505-880 and have had no problems gaming with my settings at or very close to maximum. Check here for more info on the Qosmio models.

    (1)TL:DR must be your way of saying that thinking hurts. Then again, this may explain why it looks like you responded to the post without using your brain.
    (2) It's not about community, is it? You just have nothing better to do.

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    Originally posted by bigdjr

    Originally posted by Thedrizzle

    Reasons to not buy a gaming laptop:

     

    1. Battery life = slim to none

    2. Overpriced. You can build a rig from the ground up for much cheaper

    3. They run WAYYYYY hot. To the pint where after 45 mins its uncomfortable being on your lap

    4. Hardware becomes outdated quickly and you can't really uprgrade a laptop

    I would love to build a new rig for that amount but I dont have an option I have to get a laptop.

    Yeah I think I'm going to get that ASUS cuz thats all i can find that good for that price.

    Well hold on there, then.

    Knowing more about your needs would help to recommend a better laptop to suit you. For instance, the Asus G73jh is a really nice notebook, with more power than anything else you'll find for a reasonable price, but at the same time, it has pretty abysmal battery life.

    The MSI GX640-260US, on the other hand, has a Core I7-520M and a Mobility Radeon HD 5850 (DDR 5 version). It has about 90%-95% of the power in games, but gets the battery life you'd expect from a real notebook. It also has a 15.6' package instead of being a 17' notebook, which makes it much more portable (yet the small screen is still 1680x1050). It even carries a nice price tag of only $1100-$1200. It runs toasty, but if you order it from some places, like XoticPC, they can apply IC Diamond to the CPU and GPU for relatively little money and keep temps down (besides which MSI offers a 3-year warranty anyways to protect against failures).

     


    Originally posted by The_Grump

    Originally posted by bigdjr

    Hey guys I'm going off to college soon but I'm looking for a gaming laptop because it's also going to replace my computer.

    I was thinking of this one but I was wondering if there was something better and/or cheaper.

    http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G51JX-A1-15-6-Inch-Gaming/dp/B0034NGZWM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    My max price range is around $2000

    Check into the Toshiba Qosmio. I use a Toshiba Qosmio X505-880 and have had no problems gaming with my settings at or very close to maximum. Check here for more info on the Qosmio models.

    The problem is that every single one uses a relatively under-performing Geforce GTS 360M, which performs far slower than either the Mobility Radeon HD 5850 or 5870 (It performs just a little better than the 5730 in the game tests on Notebookcheck.net).

  • bigdjrbigdjr Member Posts: 40

    Originally posted by Catamount

    Originally posted by bigdjr


    Originally posted by Thedrizzle

    Reasons to not buy a gaming laptop:

     

    1. Battery life = slim to none

    2. Overpriced. You can build a rig from the ground up for much cheaper

    3. They run WAYYYYY hot. To the pint where after 45 mins its uncomfortable being on your lap

    4. Hardware becomes outdated quickly and you can't really uprgrade a laptop

    I would love to build a new rig for that amount but I dont have an option I have to get a laptop.

    Yeah I think I'm going to get that ASUS cuz thats all i can find that good for that price.

    Well hold on there, then.

    Knowing more about your needs would help to recommend a better laptop to suit you. For instance, the Asus G73jh is a really nice notebook, with more power than anything else you'll find for a reasonable price, but at the same time, it has pretty abysmal battery life.

    The MSI GX640-260US, on the other hand, has a Core I7-520M and a Mobility Radeon HD 5850 (DDR 5 version). It has about 90%-95% of the power in games, but gets the battery life you'd expect from a real notebook. It also has a 15.6' package instead of being a 17' notebook, which makes it much more portable (yet the small screen is still 1680x1050). It even carries a nice price tag of only $1100-$1200. It runs toasty, but if you order it from some places, like XoticPC, they can apply IC Diamond to the CPU and GPU for relatively little money and keep temps down (besides which MSI offers a 3-year warranty anyways to protect against failures).

     


    Originally posted by The_Grump


    Originally posted by bigdjr

    Hey guys I'm going off to college soon but I'm looking for a gaming laptop because it's also going to replace my computer.

    I was thinking of this one but I was wondering if there was something better and/or cheaper.

    http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G51JX-A1-15-6-Inch-Gaming/dp/B0034NGZWM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    My max price range is around $2000

    Check into the Toshiba Qosmio. I use a Toshiba Qosmio X505-880 and have had no problems gaming with my settings at or very close to maximum. Check here for more info on the Qosmio models.

    The problem is that every single one uses a relatively under-performing Geforce GTS 360M, which performs far slower than either the Mobility Radeon HD 5850 or 5870 (It performs just a little better than the 5730 in the game tests on Notebookcheck.net).

     Thanks thats actually a big help honestly

  • Gweed0Gweed0 Member UncommonPosts: 108

    I just got the MSI GX-740 for 1200, it has the I-5 450, and the 5870 in it. Pretty good deal for what i needed it for.Doesn't run to hot while gaming and has what i believe is the second best video card in a laptop right now. For the guy saying gaming laptops arent worth it, i deploy in a few weeks and still plan on playing video games. I won't have the space for a desktop so a good laptop is my only option. Every other year i buy a new gaming laptop to support me for a year and it works well for me...

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    Originally posted by Gweed0

    I just got the MSI GX-740 for 1200, it has the I-5 450, and the 5870 in it. Pretty good deal for what i needed it for.Doesn't run to hot while gaming and has what i believe is the second best video card in a laptop right now. For the guy saying gaming laptops arent worth it, i deploy in a few weeks and still plan on playing video games. I won't have the space for a desktop so a good laptop is my only option. Every other year i buy a new gaming laptop to support me for a year and it works well for me...

    Yeah, MSI's machines are good. The GX740 is just the larger GX640 with a 5870 instead of a 5850, and both are really good machines.

    Now, if you're deploying somewhere hot (easily assumed), you might run into a bit of trouble given that the GPU does still get a tad bit toasty (I'd actually be interested to see how that machine would hold up). I'm sure it'll work out fine though.

     

    My Asus N61jq has a GPU that never breaks 70c, even in furmark (5730 is really a VERY cool running chip), but go figure, the Core i7 quad core gets up to 85-90 celcius in a warm room. I actually keep 2 cores disabled when not running multi-threaded games to aleviate the problem (they're nice to have in certain games though, and are easy to turn back on).

  • ShinamiShinami Member UncommonPosts: 825

    Are you telling the truth about the i7?

     

    If you are, you are in deep trouble. The Tcase is 67.9c on a i7-920. Running at 85 - 90c means something seriously is wrong with your processor. I've tested those processors and benchmarked them on their stock coolers before running on aftermarket coolers and under full load I have not reached 85c - 90c...Not even on a hot summer day with the ambient temp being 30c.

     

    Either something is wrong with the cooler, or system voltage on the processor. You can be overclocked too...If its not one of those three, then obviously you are lying. ^_^ Finally, you would need a cooler that can deal with 130W of heat.

  • The_GrumpThe_Grump Member Posts: 331

    Originally posted by Catamount

    Originally posted by bigdjr


    Originally posted by Thedrizzle

    Reasons to not buy a gaming laptop:

     

    1. Battery life = slim to none

    2. Overpriced. You can build a rig from the ground up for much cheaper

    3. They run WAYYYYY hot. To the pint where after 45 mins its uncomfortable being on your lap

    4. Hardware becomes outdated quickly and you can't really uprgrade a laptop

    I would love to build a new rig for that amount but I dont have an option I have to get a laptop.

    Yeah I think I'm going to get that ASUS cuz thats all i can find that good for that price.

    Well hold on there, then.

    Knowing more about your needs would help to recommend a better laptop to suit you. For instance, the Asus G73jh is a really nice notebook, with more power than anything else you'll find for a reasonable price, but at the same time, it has pretty abysmal battery life.

    The MSI GX640-260US, on the other hand, has a Core I7-520M and a Mobility Radeon HD 5850 (DDR 5 version). It has about 90%-95% of the power in games, but gets the battery life you'd expect from a real notebook. It also has a 15.6' package instead of being a 17' notebook, which makes it much more portable (yet the small screen is still 1680x1050). It even carries a nice price tag of only $1100-$1200. It runs toasty, but if you order it from some places, like XoticPC, they can apply IC Diamond to the CPU and GPU for relatively little money and keep temps down (besides which MSI offers a 3-year warranty anyways to protect against failures).

     


    Originally posted by The_Grump


    Originally posted by bigdjr

    Hey guys I'm going off to college soon but I'm looking for a gaming laptop because it's also going to replace my computer.

    I was thinking of this one but I was wondering if there was something better and/or cheaper.

    http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G51JX-A1-15-6-Inch-Gaming/dp/B0034NGZWM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    My max price range is around $2000

    Check into the Toshiba Qosmio. I use a Toshiba Qosmio X505-880 and have had no problems gaming with my settings at or very close to maximum. Check here for more info on the Qosmio models.

    The problem is that every single one uses a relatively under-performing Geforce GTS 360M, which performs far slower than either the Mobility Radeon HD 5850 or 5870 (It performs just a little better than the 5730 in the game tests on Notebookcheck.net).

    I'm more of an ATI fan myself and much prefer their chipsets than Nvidia, however on the whole the laptop that I am using functions very well. When you are gaming on a laptop there are definitely going to be restrictions, most notably mobility versions of your CPU and GPU. If the OP doesn't want to hunt high and low the Qosmio is definitely the way to go. Dell/Alienware is just bad beyond mentioning and Asus, while rather good, doesn't let you build your own laptop for the cost: you have to hunt to see who carries the pre-built model that you prefer. There may be something I'm missing but with the experience I've had the past two years trying to find a reliable and solidly performing gaming laptop this is the avenue I recommend.

    (1)TL:DR must be your way of saying that thinking hurts. Then again, this may explain why it looks like you responded to the post without using your brain.
    (2) It's not about community, is it? You just have nothing better to do.

  • akahdrinakahdrin Member Posts: 17

    I got a pc from XoticPC and I can honestly say it blows away every other laptop hands down.

    I'm running a I7 - 930 2.8ghz (desktop processor, yes desktop)

    6 gigs of triple channel desktop ram

    480m nvidia graphics card

    17 inch (16x10 screen)  it's gorgeous btw

    rest of the parts are pretty standard

     

    It laughs at just about anything put in front of it.  It out performs my friends Alienware m17 by leaps and bounds, in fact it's not even fair what it does to it.

     

    I can say this laptop is the best you can do for gaming as the even the highest end mobile chips stink compared to the desktop variety.

    Currently playing Everquest on Project1999

  • MiklosMiklos Member Posts: 119

    This: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=271&prod_no=2127

    Why? AMD graphics, Intel I7 CPU, MSI magic (Dynaudio and TDE).

    Best gaming laptop in price/performance ratio by far.

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    Originally posted by Shinami

    Are you telling the truth about the i7?

     

    If you are, you are in deep trouble. The Tcase is 67.9c on a i7-920. Running at 85 - 90c means something seriously is wrong with your processor. I've tested those processors and benchmarked them on their stock coolers before running on aftermarket coolers and under full load I have not reached 85c - 90c...Not even on a hot summer day with the ambient temp being 30c.

     

    Either something is wrong with the cooler, or system voltage on the processor. You can be overclocked too...If its not one of those three, then obviously you are lying. ^_^ Finally, you would need a cooler that can deal with 130W of heat.

    It would seem you missed the whole "laptop" part of this thread :)

    The Core i7 720qm has a Tjunction max of 100C, and a maximum TDP of 45W. Load temps in the mid 80s are fairly typical for them in many notebooks. This notebook typically doesn't break 80-85C, but the ambient temp in the room was about 30. The warm room was intentionally selected for a Prime95 test in order to diagnose some intermitent trouble on the notebook (wanted to make sure it wasn't the CPU).

    ...

    ...or I could just by lying about the whole thing... :p (don't mind me, haven't had my coffee yet)

  • WreckoniingWreckoniing Member UncommonPosts: 279

    alienware mx11. nuff said.

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    Originally posted by Miklos

    This: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=271&prod_no=2127

    Why? AMD graphics, Intel I7 CPU, MSI magic (Dynaudio and TDE).

    Best gaming laptop in price/performance ratio by far.

    If I could find a place that sold it with the 1080P screen as shown on MSI, that would pretty much be the most awesome laptop out there :)

  • MiklosMiklos Member Posts: 119

    Originally posted by Catamount

    Originally posted by Miklos

    This: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=271&prod_no=2127

    Why? AMD graphics, Intel I7 CPU, MSI magic (Dynaudio and TDE).

    Best gaming laptop in price/performance ratio by far.

    If I could find a place that sold it with the 1080P screen as shown on MSI, that would pretty much be the most awesome laptop out there :)

    Yea I spoke to my usual retailer - he said in about 3 weeks it's in stock.

    he said they had a demo unit and it's truely awesome - and the cooling is better than usual for gaming laptops.

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