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I'm looking for a newer game like lineage 2 or rohan where the best way to lvl is from group grinding, i know it sounds stupid. I would also like open pvp. Any suggestions?
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Have you tried Aion? Aion seems to be the closest thing to Lineage 2 released recently. I know you can solo most of the time, but group grinding is supposed to be faster. It's also mostly PVP focused at higher levels when you get to the Abyss.
i have tried aion but my friends quit it and went back to wow so i didnt wanna play alone
I guess you could look into some F2P games like:
Soul of the Ultimate Nation: http://sun.ijji.com
Shaiya: http://shaiya.aeriagames.com
Twelve Sky 2: http://12-sky2.aeriagames.com
Karos Online: http://karos.ijji.com
Aika Online: http://aika.gpotato.com
All of those games look similar to Lineage 2 and meet at least one of your criteria, but I don't think any of them meet all.